What is wrong with WinME?

I don't know (in the biblical sense) any freeware backup programs, sorry.
I've been using PowerQuest DriveImage 2002 for years now (since, well,
2002!). The Acronis Harry mentions is, as far as I know, one that was
briefly offered for free but is no longer.

MSBackup is not up to the job; it can back up personal files etc but nothing
that is in use at the time, so cannot make full backups for a complete
restore (I don't think it was able to back up to CD either, although it is a
long time since I looked into it. Of course, with XP came NTBackup, which is
probably marginally better, assuming it runs in 9x).

I presume you mean which cab file on the ME CD? If so, it is in a folder in
the root. 'Extras' I think. I customized my CD long ago and deleted the
'Extras' as a waste of space. In the 98 (SE) cabs the various files are in
WIN98_24.cab, WIN98_25.cab, WIN98_46.cab and WIN98_49.cab, being
msbackup.chm, msbackup.cnt, msbackup.exe and msbackup.hlp respectively.

You can, of course, do backups from DOS, such as with Norton Ghost or
DriveImage rescue floppies. I used to have the former but ditched it in
favour of DriveImage. Seeing as how PowerQuest was brought by Symantec and
DI2002 is long dead, if you want a copy of the rescue floppies, I don't mind
emailing you one. The only problem with them is that on an old ME box,
imaging takes a long time from DOS (it takes long enough from Windows! And
there is another reason why a modern computer is a boon - DriveImage runs at
about 3 times as fast on my 2200GHz Athlon than it did on my old 850!).

P.



BobAT286 wrote:
> Pogle;
>
> Regarding "backups" -- can you recommend a (free) backup program
> that will run under ME? Can i use msbackup from Win98(NOT)SE? If
> so, anybody know which CAB file it's in on the 98 CD?
> --- Thanks!
> Bob - who still misses DOS
>
>
> "Pogle S. Wood" wrote:
>
>> Yes, well with the backup regime you're pretty well safe and
>> everyone should
>> back up religiously regardless of which OS they use anyway...
>> ...and it can be a godsend. Of course, if you make a copy of
>> boot.ini
>>>> and leave it in the root you don't even need to edit, just rename.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> P.

How about trying this link:

http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Misc__Utilities/Acronis_T..._Image.

It says 'free download', but I didn't test it myself.
Let us know either way, please.

Harry.


"Pogle S. Wood" <wood.pogle.TakeThisOut@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:%23oaaiTVBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I don't know (in the biblical sense) any freeware backup programs, sorry.
> I've been using PowerQuest DriveImage 2002 for years now (since, well,
> 2002!). The Acronis Harry mentions is, as far as I know, one that was
> briefly offered for free but is no longer.
>
> MSBackup is not up to the job; it can back up personal files etc but
nothing
> that is in use at the time, so cannot make full backups for a complete
> restore (I don't think it was able to back up to CD either, although it is
a
> long time since I looked into it. Of course, with XP came NTBackup, which
is
> probably marginally better, assuming it runs in 9x).
>
> I presume you mean which cab file on the ME CD? If so, it is in a folder
in
> the root. 'Extras' I think. I customized my CD long ago and deleted the
> 'Extras' as a waste of space. In the 98 (SE) cabs the various files are in
> WIN98_24.cab, WIN98_25.cab, WIN98_46.cab and WIN98_49.cab, being
> msbackup.chm, msbackup.cnt, msbackup.exe and msbackup.hlp respectively.
>
> You can, of course, do backups from DOS, such as with Norton Ghost or
> DriveImage rescue floppies. I used to have the former but ditched it in
> favour of DriveImage. Seeing as how PowerQuest was brought by Symantec and
> DI2002 is long dead, if you want a copy of the rescue floppies, I don't
mind
> emailing you one. The only problem with them is that on an old ME box,
> imaging takes a long time from DOS (it takes long enough from Windows! And
> there is another reason why a modern computer is a boon - DriveImage runs
at
> about 3 times as fast on my 2200GHz Athlon than it did on my old 850!).
>
> P.
>
>
>
> BobAT286 wrote:
> > Pogle;
> >
> > Regarding "backups" -- can you recommend a (free) backup program
> > that will run under ME? Can i use msbackup from Win98(NOT)SE? If
> > so, anybody know which CAB file it's in on the 98 CD?
> > --- Thanks!
> > Bob - who still misses DOS
> >
> >
> > "Pogle S. Wood" wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, well with the backup regime you're pretty well safe and
> >> everyone should
> >> back up religiously regardless of which OS they use anyway...
> >> ...and it can be a godsend. Of course, if you make a copy of
> >> boot.ini
> >>>> and leave it in the root you don't even need to edit, just rename.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> P.
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> you have another compatible OS to install it in - and here's the best
> tip: make a 6142G partition and install XP to that. Then make

I've changed my mind - just 6G or 6144M is sufficient! The second
installation probably wouldn't boot more than 6 terabytes into the disk!


P.

webster72n wrote:
> How about trying this link:
>
> http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Misc__Utilities/Acronis_T..._Image.
>
> It says 'free download', but I didn't test it myself.
> Let us know either way, please.
>

It says "Shareware / $49.50"


P.

I just had "system32\ntoskrnl.exe not found". This is because I made
another attempt to install Win2K, the way I do everything else, i.e. so that
my boot manager can then add it and the new OS successfully boot that way.

This time I tried adding Win2K by deleting XP then reinstalling it - and the
boot manager - after Win2K was set up. But it did not work, again, so I
deleted it, again, and restored XP - and the OS next to it, which I had also
deleted.

Only this time the 2nd OS got the ID 'partition(1'), which XP had been
before. However that happened I do not know but this is a regular problem in
restoring, multibooting - or disk management where you want the SATA disk
listed before the PATA disk: the way the bios enumerates them is not the
same as the way XP does, i.e. the bios (probably dependent on the make I
suppose) lists them in the order they were created, while XP lists them in
the order they are physically allocated.

XP was 'partition(1)' and the other OS was 'partition(2)', but following the
restore those were reversed in the bios, but not in the restored boot.ini,
so I had to edit it to read 'partition(2)' instead of 'partition(1)'.
Restarted and it booted right away no problem.

The NT6.x partition booted from the off, despite also being reversed.

btw Mart, I feel this is a legitimate offshoot of the original thread, since
the OP states a good deal about XP being terrible and a reason to stick with
9x, apparently based on misunderstood first impressions or perhaps 'Common
Sense' - which is usually shorthand for 'Completely Wrong On Account Of
Believing What It Takes To Believe To Shore Up One's Comforting Delusions
Rather Than What Can Be Seen Clear As Day When You Don't Make An Effort To
Avoid Doing So'. It is easy to see why the shorthand is preferred -
unfortunately the original meaning has been lost in the mists of living in
the past.

P.

Mart wrote:
> Thanks S - I appreciate your suggestion which sounds like a d**m good
> idea. (Although in my case it was a failed HDD rather than just a
> missing file) But I suppose I've veered a bit OT and we are in danger
> of highjacking LM's thread.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Pogle S. Wood" <wood.pogle.DeleteThis@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:%239tlc4RBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> My own experience of an XP box (catastrophically) failing to boot
>>> was when the HDD died - so can't really blame it on XP. But have to
>>> admit that trying to recover data from an NTFS HDD was "difficult"
>>> - Soon learnt to use a backup regime after that!
>>>
>>
>>
>> The one most people run into like into a brick wall is the failing
>> to boot due to the HCL or autochk or NTDETECT or similar not being
>> found and, usually, in my experience, that is due to an incorrect
>> boot.ini. And apart from the fact you can correct that via booting
>> with a BartPE disc - though that is quite a lot of effort to make in
>> the first place - you can edit boot.ini via BootItNG (unregistered).
>> Burn one to cd (especially since odds are you won't have a floppy
>> drive anymore!) and there is no need to update it. With SATA and
>> RAID (and NT6.x as well as NT5.x) I still use a BING cd from 2006,
>> and it can be a godsend. Of course, if you make a copy of boot.ini
>> and leave it in the root you don't even need to edit, just rename.
>>
>>
>> P.

>> MS seems to think we need all this bloat, when in the end, we all see
>> the same websites, type and print a document the same way, and
>> nothing else changes, except the new computer will cost more to run
>> for both purchasing and electric usage, as well as taking more time
>> to use
>

Also, new computers are far, far cheaper to purchase than they were. My 850
Athlon WinME box cost over £1000 in 2000. My 2200 Athlon XP Pro box cost
about £300 a bit more than a year ago. Now for the same price you can get
one with Vista Home Premium and 2G of RAM. The processors we're talking here
are likely to be 64-bit and/or dual core into the bargain.

The downside is they're made in China.

P.