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Pogle S. Wood

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:55 pm
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Yes, well with the backup regime you're pretty well safe and everyone should
back up religiously regardless of which OS they use anyway. I just want to
make the point that *I* used to think XP had this boot file corruption
problem that would require a reinstallation from time to time - but while it
was a fairly regular occurance in the beginning, I haven't seen it for
several years - except where it has been this easily correctable boot.ini
issue. Possibly it always was this boot.ini thing (which is probably much
more rare if you only have one partition - though backing up is that much
more troublesome, so less likely to be done, which is why one big C: will
always be birdbrained!).

Certainly I once thought XP was far from as trouble-free as they were making
out; now I think it really takes an effort to break it! It *is* the best OS
MS have made. Though they still haven't fixed their Activation procedure.

P.S.

I forgot what I was going to say.


Mart wrote:
> Thanks S - I appreciate your suggestion which sounds like a d**m good
> idea. (Although in my case it was a failed HDD rather than just a
> missing file) But I suppose I've veered a bit OT and we are in danger
> of highjacking LM's thread.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Pogle S. Wood" <wood.pogle.DeleteThis@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:%239tlc4RBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> My own experience of an XP box (catastrophically) failing to boot
>>> was when the HDD died - so can't really blame it on XP. But have to
>>> admit that trying to recover data from an NTFS HDD was "difficult"
>>> - Soon learnt to use a backup regime after that!
>>>
>>
>>
>> The one most people run into like into a brick wall is the failing
>> to boot due to the HCL or autochk or NTDETECT or similar not being
>> found and, usually, in my experience, that is due to an incorrect
>> boot.ini. And apart from the fact you can correct that via booting
>> with a BartPE disc - though that is quite a lot of effort to make in
>> the first place - you can edit boot.ini via BootItNG (unregistered).
>> Burn one to cd (especially since odds are you won't have a floppy
>> drive anymore!) and there is no need to update it. With SATA and
>> RAID (and NT6.x as well as NT5.x) I still use a BING cd from 2006,
>> and it can be a godsend. Of course, if you make a copy of boot.ini
>> and leave it in the root you don't even need to edit, just rename.
>>
>>
>> P.
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BobAT286

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:55 pm
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"Pogle S. Wood" wrote:

> Yes, well with the backup regime you're pretty well safe and everyone should
> back up religiously regardless of which OS they use anyway. I just want to
> make the point that *I* used to think XP had this boot file corruption
> problem that would require a reinstallation from time to time - but while it
> was a fairly regular occurance in the beginning, I haven't seen it for
> several years - except where it has been this easily correctable boot.ini
> issue. Possibly it always was this boot.ini thing (which is probably much
> more rare if you only have one partition - though backing up is that much
> more troublesome, so less likely to be done, which is why one big C: will
> always be birdbrained!).
>
> Certainly I once thought XP was far from as trouble-free as they were making
> out; now I think it really takes an effort to break it! It *is* the best OS
> MS have made. Though they still haven't fixed their Activation procedure.
>
> P.S.
>
> I forgot what I was going to say.
>
>
> Mart wrote:
> > Thanks S - I appreciate your suggestion which sounds like a d**m good
> > idea. (Although in my case it was a failed HDD rather than just a
> > missing file) But I suppose I've veered a bit OT and we are in danger
> > of highjacking LM's thread.
> >
> > Mart
> >
> >
> > "Pogle S. Wood" <wood.pogle DeleteThis @googlemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:%239tlc4RBJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> My own experience of an XP box (catastrophically) failing to boot
> >>> was when the HDD died - so can't really blame it on XP. But have to
> >>> admit that trying to recover data from an NTFS HDD was "difficult"
> >>> - Soon learnt to use a backup regime after that!
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> The one most people run into like into a brick wall is the failing
> >> to boot due to the HCL or autochk or NTDETECT or similar not being
> >> found and, usually, in my experience, that is due to an incorrect
> >> boot.ini. And apart from the fact you can correct that via booting
> >> with a BartPE disc - though that is quite a lot of effort to make in
> >> the first place - you can edit boot.ini via BootItNG (unregistered).
> >> Burn one to cd (especially since odds are you won't have a floppy
> >> drive anymore!) and there is no need to update it. With SATA and
> >> RAID (and NT6.x as well as NT5.x) I still use a BING cd from 2006,
> >> and it can be a godsend. Of course, if you make a copy of boot.ini
> >> and leave it in the root you don't even need to edit, just rename.
> >>
> >>
> >> P.
>
>
>
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BobAT286

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:55 pm
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Pogle;

Regarding "backups" -- can you recommend a (free) backup program that
will run under ME? Can i use msbackup from Win98(NOT)SE? If so, anybody
know which CAB file it's in on the 98 CD?
--- Thanks!
Bob - who still misses DOS


"Pogle S. Wood" wrote:

> Yes, well with the backup regime you're pretty well safe and everyone should
> back up religiously regardless of which OS they use anyway... ...and it can be a godsend. Of course, if you make a copy of boot.ini
> >> and leave it in the root you don't even need to edit, just rename.
> >>
> >>
> >> P.
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webster72n

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:55 pm
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I found 'Acronis True Image' (Free) quite effective and running well under
WinME.
No idea about msbackup.

Harry.


"BobAT286" <Bob RemoveThis @NoSpam_Cheeseburger.NoCoke.Pepsi> wrote in message
news:59E6A128-3147-42AD-98D7-3E118091FE4D@microsoft.com...
> Pogle;
>
> Regarding "backups" -- can you recommend a (free) backup program that
> will run under ME? Can i use msbackup from Win98(NOT)SE? If so, anybody
> know which CAB file it's in on the 98 CD?
> --- Thanks!
> Bob - who still misses DOS
>
>
> "Pogle S. Wood" wrote:
>
> > Yes, well with the backup regime you're pretty well safe and everyone
should
> > back up religiously regardless of which OS they use anyway... ...and it
can be a godsend. Of course, if you make a copy of boot.ini
> > >> and leave it in the root you don't even need to edit, just rename.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> P.
>
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Pogle S. Wood

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:57 pm
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Mike M wrote:
> Pogle S. Wood <wood.pogle RemoveThis @googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> The one most people run into like into a brick wall is the failing to
>> boot due to the HCL or autochk or NTDETECT or similar not being found
>> and, usually, in my experience, that is due to an incorrect boot.ini.
>> And apart from the fact you can correct that via booting with a
>> BartPE disc - though that is quite a lot of effort to make in the
>> first place - you can edit boot.ini via BootItNG (unregistered). Burn
>> one to cd (especially since odds are you won't have a floppy drive
>> anymore!) and there is no need to update it. With SATA and RAID (and
>> NT6.x as well as NT5.x) I still use a BING cd from 2006, and it can
>> be a godsend. Of course, if you make a copy of boot.ini and leave it
>> in the root you don't even need to edit, just rename.
>
> BING can not only handle and edit boot.ini but can also use BCEdit to
> edit the Vista equivalent although you will probably need to be using
> a later version of BING than one from 2006.
>

Yes, I can see that. I shall have to try it. So far the only time I took a
look at BCEdit, I ran away screaming!


P.
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Mart

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:03 pm
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> I did reply to your most recent e-mail (21 August, re scanner post).

No rush Mike - however I didn't get your reply, above. Odd?

Hmm .. I had been getting a couple of "hanging server" issues (Code 5 -
whatever they mean by that) again earlier in the week. Yahoo seem to have
got yet another rogue server which was playing-up. Just checked again and
there's nothing stuck with my ISP. Definitely not my end though!!

Mart



"Mike M" <No_Spam DeleteThis @Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
>> A big AMEN to that Mike!
>>
>> Mart
>>
>> BTW - have you disabled your 'usual' email address recently Mike? I've
>> sent you some over the past couple of weeks. They've not bounced
>> and I've not had a response. Maybe you're just busy <g>
>
> Apologies for that Mart, I must check. I suspect that I might have read
> them, marked them for reply and then forgot all about them. As you have
> already suspected I've not been feeling too hot recently (a different
> problem from normal) and have also been keeping myself busy with
> finalising the accounts for the development where I live. I'll try and
> respond later although I see I did reply to your most recent e-mail (21
> August, re scanner post).
> --
> Mike M
>
>
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Mart

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:10 pm
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PSW ended with :-

> P.S.
>
> I forgot what I was going to say.

Thank goodness that its not just me. These 'senior moments' are becoming
more prevalent.

Mart

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Mike M1

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:26 pm
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Mart,

I've just resent my last e-mail which I first sent on 21 August rather
than yesterday. Perhaps I confused things by saying I had sent it
yesterday. <g>
--
Mike


Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:

>> I did reply to your most recent e-mail (21 August, re scanner post).
>
> No rush Mike - however I didn't get your reply, above. Odd?
>
> Hmm .. I had been getting a couple of "hanging server" issues (Code 5
> - whatever they mean by that) again earlier in the week. Yahoo seem
> to have got yet another rogue server which was playing-up. Just
> checked again and there's nothing stuck with my ISP. Definitely not
> my end though!!
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