wireless connection??

Got connected but have a problem.
When the wireless connects it causes an IP conflict with one of the winxp
system.
The ip is the same for both systems.
When I manually change the ip address on the 98se system,
CP-Network-TCP/IP>WirelessB-Properties-IPAddress tab, change from
192.168.0.106 (both machines) to 192.168.0.107 then I cannot connect to net.

I ran wipxp wizard, (netsetup)copied to floppy and ran in 98 system.
The exact error msg on the 98 system is:
"The system has detected a conflict for IP address 192.168.0.106 with the
system having hardware address 00:0D:88:5b:EE." When I click 'OK' enough
then the 98 takes over and the winxp goes down until I 'repair' xp.

The wireless card control panel(linksys) is showing the ip 192.168.0.106 and
not sure how to change that one.

L.




"MEB" <meb@not here DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Firewall, shared settings, and a few others. Try to work through some of
> the
> suggestions and diagnostics here:
>
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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>
>
> "L.S." <notgood DeleteThis @yahooie.com> wrote in message
> news:uGpbvG%23xIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | Have a laptop running Win 98se.
> | Have on board wired lan card that connects to router and gets on the net
> | just fine.
> | Have a wireless, Linksys wireless-b wpc11, adapter that connects to
> router
> | but I can't get on net.
> | The entire system has 7 winxp systems and this laptop(98se).
> |
> | Have a cable modem that connects to a wireless/wired router(d-link 524)
> and
> | then to a switch(d-link dss 8+).
> |
> | When I open the Liinksys console it's states;
> | "you are connected to the access point, but the internet cannot be
> found".
> | Single strength is pegged and so is link quality. I'm 20 ft from
> router..
> |
> | Not sure what settings may be off..
> |
> | Suggestions please,
> |
> |
> |
> |
>
>

The question lay with what IS assigning these addresses. Obviously you can
not have two devices/computers with the same address.
You say you used the network setup disk, but was that actually ICS? If so,
there are some registry entries which need removed.
Wi-Fi networks can be configured in two different ways:
"Ad hoc" mode allows wireless devices to communicate in peer-to-peer mode
with each other.
"Infrastructure" mode allows wireless devices to communicate with a central
node that in turn can communicate with wired nodes on that LAN.

Easiest,, check your working XP machine's addresses and manually assign the
wireless adapter within that range OR make sure that it receives its address
from the cabled network. Make sure all the firewalls allow the traffic.
IF Norton or McAfee/CA suite is in the mix, make absolutely sure the entire
network is *rediscovered*. EXAMPLE Norton Internet Security Suite:
Right-click NIS, selected Open NIS, Under "Personal Firewall" > "Networking"
tab, there's a "Wizard" button. If you click that, let it do its thing, it
detects your network card and allows incoming connections from the IPs
specified. Make sure it finds ALL connected networks or manually set those
it misses.

Make sure that, the router [where the Internet connects] is DHCP/DNS, and
all machines and devices receive their addresses FROM that router.

IF *static*{manually assigned}, then IP address is manually set within your
network IP range and subnet mask [DNS] (Must be set within the router's
indicated network range, example 192.168.1.1 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.224).
Try at 10 spacing, e.g., 192.168.1.10, 192.168.1.20, etc.. Gateway is your
master router {Internet connection device address}. All computers are in the
SAME workgroup. DHCP is disabled in all other routers [See *Add wireless].
It is not a good idea to mix static and dynamically assigned
networks/devices unless you have a server to handle this aspect.

IF set/received from the master router [dynamic], then each connected
device TCP/IP is set as: DNS Configuration - Disabled; IP address - Obtain
IP automatically; Gateway - the master address/router. All computers are in
the SAME workgroup. DHCP is disabled in all other routers [See *Add
wireless].

*Add wireless into the mix using dynamic addressing:
A wireless router generally has two or more Ethernet/cable jacks. Put the
wireless router/AP {access point} as the first connection from the ISP
modem/router. It assigns any wireless connections AND the hard connected
device(s) [its controller computer and attached devices]..
Your second network {the hard-wired} router [connected to the wireless
router/transceiver] gets *its address* from the wireless router [check the
interface to be sure it does/has], and then assigns all the *hard wired*
network sub addressing. NOTE: make sure that you set the master *router
interfaces* {wireless and hard} to non-conflicting addresses [they can't
both be 192.168.1.1 for example}. You will likely need to do this PRIOR to
connecting the rest of the network. You can also switch this around [hard
first then wireless]
You may get lost in the above, so perhaps this will better explain the
setup.
Start here:
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/separate_nets.htm
http://www.directron.com/pariichoosne.html#top

And potentially:
Make sure that the GATEWAY for all devices [except the master device] IS
the Internet connection device [modem/router] address. TCP/IP is set via the
Network CP entry point for all EXCEPT the routers. Those are set by the
software that came with them.
If you looked at the page, you should have noted that only ONE router can
assign/be DHCP/DNS [See *Add wireless], the other(s) is(are) basically a
network switching device and is disabled. That's not always true, but then
you must understand and deal with multiple nets and workgroups, and passing
such traffic over the network and bridging them. I would re-look at that
page/link [mine] for the setup procedure for static addressing and nix the
XP network setup disk...
See also:
http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ih/doc/pc_conn/tcpip/admin/admin7.html


The above are *general hints* if you want to press ahead on your own. IF
you want some help then post some information like address ranges, and
actual connection/physical layout..

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
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"L.S." <notgood.TakeThisOut@yahooie.com> wrote in message
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| Got connected but have a problem.
| When the wireless connects it causes an IP conflict with one of the winxp
| system.
| The ip is the same for both systems.
| When I manually change the ip address on the 98se system,
| CP-Network-TCP/IP>WirelessB-Properties-IPAddress tab, change from
| 192.168.0.106 (both machines) to 192.168.0.107 then I cannot connect to
net.
|
| I ran wipxp wizard, (netsetup)copied to floppy and ran in 98 system.
| The exact error msg on the 98 system is:
| "The system has detected a conflict for IP address 192.168.0.106 with the
| system having hardware address 00:0D:88:5b:EE." When I click 'OK' enough
| then the 98 takes over and the winxp goes down until I 'repair' xp.
|
| The wireless card control panel(linksys) is showing the ip 192.168.0.106
and
| not sure how to change that one.
|
| L.
|
|
|
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:uh7UKl%23xIHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > Firewall, shared settings, and a few others. Try to work through some of
| > the
| > suggestions and diagnostics here:
| >
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| >
| > "L.S." <notgood.TakeThisOut@yahooie.com> wrote in message
| > news:uGpbvG%23xIHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > | Have a laptop running Win 98se.
| > | Have on board wired lan card that connects to router and gets on the
net
| > | just fine.
| > | Have a wireless, Linksys wireless-b wpc11, adapter that connects to
| > router
| > | but I can't get on net.
| > | The entire system has 7 winxp systems and this laptop(98se).
| > |
| > | Have a cable modem that connects to a wireless/wired router(d-link
524)
| > and
| > | then to a switch(d-link dss 8+).
| > |
| > | When I open the Liinksys console it's states;
| > | "you are connected to the access point, but the internet cannot be
| > found".
| > | Single strength is pegged and so is link quality. I'm 20 ft from
| > router..
| > |
| > | Not sure what settings may be off..
| > |
| > | Suggestions please,
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:03:26 -0500, "L.S." <notgood RemoveThis @yahooie.com>
wrote:

>When I manually change the ip address on the 98se system,
>CP-Network-TCP/IP>WirelessB-Properties-IPAddress tab, change from
>192.168.0.106 (both machines) to 192.168.0.107 then I cannot connect to net.


If you change ip addresses like this you also need to enable dns in
the tcp/ip properties and enter an address for a nameserver. This can
be either your router's ip address or the ip address of your isp's
nameserver.

Incidentally, using 107 is likely to cause a similar conflict later to
what you are experiencing now. Try 249 instead.



Jim.

Appears to be working.
I ran winipcfg on the 98se system and it "finally" renewed wireless with an
ip of 192.168.0.101
Will need to check 5 other system for conflict when other folks get in
office.

Strange thing is when I opened winipcfg it showed the built-in SIS card but
for the wireless instead of showing Linksys wireless it's showing a Realtek
RTL8180 Wireless Lan?

The SisNIC card is showing an IP address of 169.254.34.103, Subnet Mask is
shown as 255.255.0.0 and the DHCP Server is 255.255.255.255 and nothing in
Default Gateway(not connected).
All other systems/cards are showing 192.168.0.xxx, Subnet= 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway=192.168.0.1 and DHCP Server=192.168.0.1.

Could the SIS card be causing a conflict?
I want to be able to use hardwire SIS card if I'm somewhere where there
isn't wireless..
Do I need to unplug wireless, connect hardwire and run Winipcfg to correct?

Also,
I have 3 enteries under Device Manager;
1. IrDA v3.0 Fast Ifrared Port ((The IR does not show up in Winipcfg))
2. SIS 900 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
3. Wireless-B Notebook Adapter
All 3 show up in CP-Network with TCP/IP's.

Any suggestion on what to do with these, if anything?

L.

"James Egan" <jegan.TakeThisOut@jegan.com> wrote in message
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>
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:03:26 -0500, "L.S." <notgood.TakeThisOut@yahooie.com>
> wrote:
>
>>When I manually change the ip address on the 98se system,
>>CP-Network-TCP/IP>WirelessB-Properties-IPAddress tab, change from
>>192.168.0.106 (both machines) to 192.168.0.107 then I cannot connect to
>>net.
>
>
> If you change ip addresses like this you also need to enable dns in
> the tcp/ip properties and enter an address for a nameserver. This can
> be either your router's ip address or the ip address of your isp's
> nameserver.
>
> Incidentally, using 107 is likely to cause a similar conflict later to
> what you are experiencing now. Try 249 instead.
>
>
>
> Jim.
>

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:47:16 -0500, "L.S." <notgood RemoveThis @yahooie.com>
wrote:

>The SisNIC card is showing an IP address of 169.254.34.103, Subnet Mask is
>shown as 255.255.0.0 and the DHCP Server is 255.255.255.255 and nothing in
>Default Gateway(not connected).
>All other systems/cards are showing 192.168.0.xxx, Subnet= 255.255.255.0
>Default Gateway=192.168.0.1 and DHCP Server=192.168.0.1.
>

That's the expected behaviour if the cable is disconnected.


>Could the SIS card be causing a conflict?
>I want to be able to use hardwire SIS card if I'm somewhere where there
>isn't wireless..
>Do I need to unplug wireless, connect hardwire and run Winipcfg to correct?

It's not a conflict as such, more that the computer is expecting the
same scenario when it starts up as the last time it closed down so if
you're switching between wired and wireless use it might not work
correctly straight away. As you found out, it eventually got its ip
from the wireless router and started operating correctly.

However, it's no good leaving it like that. What you need to do is to
configure hardware profiles. Here's a couple of links about it.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/236963
http://www.pcanswers.co.uk/tutorials/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articlei...862&sub

In one hardware profile enable the wireless adaptor and disable the
wired. In the other, enable the wired and disable the wireless. Then
when you boot up the machine you will get an extra menu before going
into windows asking whether you want the wired profile or the wireless
profile.


Jim.

Thanks. Will look these links over and set it up.


"James Egan" <jegan.TakeThisOut@jegan.com> wrote in message
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>
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:47:16 -0500, "L.S." <notgood.TakeThisOut@yahooie.com>
> wrote:
>
>>The SisNIC card is showing an IP address of 169.254.34.103, Subnet Mask is
>>shown as 255.255.0.0 and the DHCP Server is 255.255.255.255 and nothing in
>>Default Gateway(not connected).
>>All other systems/cards are showing 192.168.0.xxx, Subnet= 255.255.255.0
>>Default Gateway=192.168.0.1 and DHCP Server=192.168.0.1.
>>
>
> That's the expected behaviour if the cable is disconnected.
>
>
>>Could the SIS card be causing a conflict?
>>I want to be able to use hardwire SIS card if I'm somewhere where there
>>isn't wireless..
>>Do I need to unplug wireless, connect hardwire and run Winipcfg to
>>correct?
>
> It's not a conflict as such, more that the computer is expecting the
> same scenario when it starts up as the last time it closed down so if
> you're switching between wired and wireless use it might not work
> correctly straight away. As you found out, it eventually got its ip
> from the wireless router and started operating correctly.
>
> However, it's no good leaving it like that. What you need to do is to
> configure hardware profiles. Here's a couple of links about it.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/236963
> http://www.pcanswers.co.uk/tutorials/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articlei...862&sub
>
> In one hardware profile enable the wireless adaptor and disable the
> wired. In the other, enable the wired and disable the wireless. Then
> when you boot up the machine you will get an extra menu before going
> into windows asking whether you want the wired profile or the wireless
> profile.
>
>
> Jim.
>