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RobertVA wrote:
> Roger Fink wrote:
>> Basically, the FCC, presumably under pressure from, or in league
>> with, the religious right, take your pick, bullied the ISPs into
>> this. Since they have bigger fish to fry, like ditching net
>> neutrality, the ISPs tripped all over themselves to comply. Verizon,
>> to its credit, at least chose to keep the
>> part of the service that didn't generate any heat.
>
> PLEASE don't blame the federal FCC for New York state's disregard for
> the first amendment of the federal constitution! The whole problem
> resulted from New York's efforts to get the ISPs to delete child
> pornography that customers had been posting on binary groups. Some
> files
> were present as a result of mirroring other Usenet servers. Instead of
> deleting/blocking the offending files or the groups that frequently
> contain them, some ISPs overreacted by dropping mirrors of the WHOLE
> alt. branch of Usenet for ALL their customers, even those not living
> in
> New York.

Oh oh, an FCC lawyer with Windows 98 installed!!

OK, sticking it to the breathtakingly ambitious Andrew Cuomo is not a
problem, although I don't think the FCC fought it tooth and nail.

If you're having a problem similar to the OP's (Urge, who may not be a
Verizon subscriber), perhaps you'd be better off starting a new thread about
/your/ problem, Roger?

Roger Fink wrote:
> Sorry, but I'm still confused. I realize Comcast dropped support for
> newsgroups, but Verizon only dropped support for some subset of newsgroups
> they offered. News.microsoft.com was retained.
>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> Repost:
>>>> Are you a Comcast subscriber by any chance? =>
>>>>
> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcast-Discontinues-Newsgroup-Service-97785
>>
>> Roger Fink wrote:
>>> Verizon is my ISP, my email address is @verizon.net, and I'm
>>> subscribed to
>>> this newsgroup through news.microsoft.com using OE.What am I missing
>>> here?
>>>
>>> Urge wrote:
>>>> I had access to this group for years in OE newsgroups but I can't
>>>> access them anymore so I had to signup for this windows live thing.
>>>> what is up with this? I couldn't use my e-mail address
>>>> (verizon.net) " The portion of your e-mail address that follows the
>>>> @ symbol is
>>>> part of a "reserved domain" such as live.com, hotmail.com, msn.com
>>>> or passport.com. Please type a different e-mail address. "
>>>> and had to go thru all this **** just to post ?s. Why is this
>>>> happening? how can I get my newsgroups back? Why is MS making life
>>>> so hard?

Do we know that the OP's a Verizon subscriber?

Roger Fink wrote:
> Longshot, but maybe OP's problem is that he hasn't unsubscribed from a
> newsgroup now unsupported by Verizon, as they mention towards the end of
> their email.

It may well be that the MS groups are mirrored by the Verizon server, but
it's irrelevant if he is connecting to news.microsoft.com. It doesn't
matter who the ISP is - all they are doing is providing a link to the
internet so the user can connect to the MS news server.
--
Jeff Richards

MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Roger Fink" <fink RemoveThis @manana.org> wrote in message
news:OIqu9aePJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> No argument. I'm only saying that, assuming Verizon is his ISP,
> news.microsoft.com is contained within his 40,000 (or whatever it is)
> entry
> "usenet download" to the Verizon server.
>
> dadiOH wrote:
>> Roger Fink wrote:
>>> Sorry, but I'm still confused. I realize Comcast dropped support for
>>> newsgroups, but Verizon only dropped support for some subset of
>>> newsgroups they offered. News.microsoft.com was retained.
>>
>> Verizon has - and never had - nothing to do with news.microsoft.com.
>> You connect to the internet via Verizon. The MS news server is just
>> another internet site site to which you can connect. Ditto with
>> Comcast. The OP could connect to news.microsoft.com via Comcast if
>> he configured OE to do so.
>
>

In message <eQc69VhPJHA.4224.TakeThisOut@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Jeff Richards
<JRichards.TakeThisOut@msn.com.au> writes
>It may well be that the MS groups are mirrored by the Verizon server,
>but it's irrelevant if he is connecting to news.microsoft.com. It
>doesn't matter who the ISP is - all they are doing is providing a link
>to the internet so the user can connect to the MS news server.
>--
>Jeff Richards
>
>MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>"Roger Fink" <fink.TakeThisOut@manana.org> wrote in message
>news:OIqu9aePJHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> No argument. I'm only saying that, assuming Verizon is his ISP,
>> news.microsoft.com is contained within his 40,000 (or whatever it is)
>> entry
>> "usenet download" to the Verizon server.

Yes, to clarify what Jeff said: news.microsoft.com is a newsSERVER.
There may also be (I don't know as I don't subscribe to it) a newsGROUP
of the same name; if so, it is part of the news.* hierarchy which
Verizon include in the "big 8" they still support.
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