Looking to upgrade... XP or Vista???

Big.David.NJ.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:

> I also was looking for a newer PC with XP, but it sure would be
> easier if it were already installed.

You haven't said if you're looking for a laptop or desktop PC.

Dell is still selling a few of both (I *think*) with XP.

We recently (2 or 3 months ago) bought a Lenovo (IBM) laptop with XP.

FromTheRafters wrote:

> > Just buy a new machine and wipe the drive and install XP on the
> > damn thing.
>
> Some people like to have the EISA configuration partition in
> case of accidental corruption and lack of any other restoration
> media.

Those people that even know what that is, and how to use it, are
probably the same people that *can* pull off a clean install of
XP-over-Vista and know other ways to backup their hard drive.

"98 Guy" <98.TakeThisOut@Guy.com> wrote in message news:48FD11EB.F8AC40E1@Guy.com...
> philo wrote:
>
> > > Can you guys reccomend some places where XP PCs are in ample
> > > supply?
> >
> > Try Newegg
>
> What's wrong with you people?
>
> Just buy a new machine and wipe the drive and install XP on the damn
> thing.
>
> It's sad how helpless Microsoft has caused people to become.


Sure but why pay for something you are not going to use?
there are still plenty of places that sell XP computers

philo wrote:

> > Just buy a new machine and wipe the drive and install XP on the
> > damn thing.
>
> there are still plenty of places that sell XP computers

Go ahead and give the OP some URL's then.

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<e060570d-901a-4077-a6e7-29af23f8747f.RemoveThis@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
nj_annie.RemoveThis@golfilla.info writes
>Hi.. I've had Windows 98se for many years and I'm looking to get a
>newer PC. I see that MOST of the systems today come with Windows
>Vista. I do see an occasional PC with XP but it is usually one that
>is on "clearance".

On the whole, yes, you will only find XP machines as second-hand,
end-of-line, or "special" made up for you; you certainly won't find XP
in any high-street store (in UK, anyway). Though see next post.
>
>If I do get a newer PC, which operating system would you reccomend? I
>have heard quite a few people say that they didn't care much for Vista
>and I was wondering why that is the case?

Vista is very self-protective: the default setting is that it makes it
very difficult to break it by changing things you shouldn't. This also
makes it fairly difficult to change things to how you want them.

It is also more tied up with intellectual property rights protection -
the protection of the copyright rights of software, music, and video
producers. This _can_ also cause some problems.

Finally, it _does_ require a higher hardware rating in order to yield
the same performance as an XP system.

Conversely, it is the most recent (Windows) OS, and is likely to be
supported for longer, by both Microsoft and those who write software for
it and produce hardware. (At the moment, some of those haven't caught up
yet, but this will be corrected soon.)
>
>Thank You
>
>Annie

You're welcome
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<9c62f795-f183-45ac-9ca1-3dd118d47788 DeleteThis @a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
nj_annie DeleteThis @golfilla.info writes
>Thanks for all of the advice. But on most sites I've looked at, I
>find very little in the way of XP systems. Can you guys reccomend
>some places where XP PCs are in ample supply?

_If_ you just want a PC that will do what your old '98 machine does, and
probably more, look at "netbooks"; there is a wide range of these that
now come, new, with XP. Asus's Eee range has a surprisingly large
selection - different screen sizes (7, 8.9, and 10.1 inch diagonals),
Linux or XP, assorted colours (!), and assorted hard drives (including
some with only solid state drives). The 9 and 10 inch screens have
1024x600 resolution. These machines can be used with an external monitor
(at higher resolution) keyboard and mouse, though some would say this
defeats the point; they include wifi, webcam, microphone, ethernet, ...
no optical drive, but again can work with an external one. (They have
speakers, though - especially the smaller ones - they're a bit tinny;
again, nothing to stop you using external ones.) Finally, they're
reasonably cheap. (The non-Asus one is the MSI Wind U100, or its clones
- in the UK, anyway - the Advent 4211 or Medion 1215, available from
PCWorld/Currys and Aldi/Argos respectively.) Others are continuing to
appear.

Basically, if you want a _new_ machine that comes with XP already
installed, look at netbooks (i. e. very tiny laptops). They _may_ do
what you want. (They're also cute! if you _do_ use them without external
everything.)
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Annie
>
You're welcome again.
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