How to uninstal Gateway ?

"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:57:51 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
> <e925 RemoveThis @SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
>
>
> >But via network the Internet Gateway had loaded
> >itself onto the Win98 PC, host (via router) to broadband
> >Internet access: so the Gateway loads at boot and (I
> >suspect) prevents access. How can I remove this?
>
> The Internet Gateway is your wireless router. Clicking the Internet
> Gateway icon lets you monitor and control the router. For example,
> clicking "Disable" on the Internet Gateway tells the router to
> disconnect itself from the Internet.
>
> I don't think that the Internet Gateway is causing problems or that
> removing it from the Win98 PC would help. However, you can do so by
> going to Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Windows Setup >
> Communications and removing "Universal Plug and Play".

Thanks for this: easily done -- but on going to
/ Windows Setup / Communications
it seems /Universal Plug and Play
was not installed in the first place. Should it be?
Is lack of this module why the Gateway = Router monitor
(a) is always very slow, (b) appears not fully functional ?

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

"Don Phillipson" <e925 RemoveThis @SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
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> "Steve Winograd" <bc070521m RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:57:51 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
> > <e925 RemoveThis @SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >But via network the Internet Gateway had loaded
> > >itself onto the Win98 PC, host (via router) to broadband
> > >Internet access: so the Gateway loads at boot and (I
> > >suspect) prevents access. How can I remove this?
> >
> > The Internet Gateway is your wireless router. Clicking the Internet
> > Gateway icon lets you monitor and control the router. For example,
> > clicking "Disable" on the Internet Gateway tells the router to
> > disconnect itself from the Internet.
> >
> > I don't think that the Internet Gateway is causing problems or that
> > removing it from the Win98 PC would help. However, you can do so by
> > going to Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Windows Setup >
> > Communications and removing "Universal Plug and Play".

Thanks for this: easily done -- but on going to
/ Windows Setup / Communications
it seems /Universal Plug and Play
was not installed in the first place. Should it be?
Is lack of this module why the Gateway = Router monitor
(a) is always very slow, (b) appears not fully functional ?

BUT I also saw on this menu / Direct Cable Connection
had also not been installed (on recent reinstallation of the
Win98SE OS after a power failure and crash) -- so I added
that and internet access via wireless modem (via router)
now is restored. So thank you very much for that. The
home wireless network now has vanished, but I dare
say I can reload this p.d.q.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:07:43 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
<e925.TakeThisOut@SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote:
>> > >But via network the Internet Gateway had loaded
>> > >itself onto the Win98 PC, host (via router) to broadband
>> > >Internet access: so the Gateway loads at boot and (I
>> > >suspect) prevents access. How can I remove this?
>> >
>> > The Internet Gateway is your wireless router. Clicking the Internet
>> > Gateway icon lets you monitor and control the router. For example,
>> > clicking "Disable" on the Internet Gateway tells the router to
>> > disconnect itself from the Internet.
>> >
>> > I don't think that the Internet Gateway is causing problems or that
>> > removing it from the Win98 PC would help. However, you can do so by
>> > going to Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Windows Setup >
>> > Communications and removing "Universal Plug and Play".
>
> Thanks for this: easily done -- but on going to
>/ Windows Setup / Communications
>it seems /Universal Plug and Play
>was not installed in the first place. Should it be?
>Is lack of this module why the Gateway = Router monitor
>(a) is always very slow, (b) appears not fully functional ?
>
>BUT I also saw on this menu / Direct Cable Connection
>had also not been installed (on recent reinstallation of the
>Win98SE OS after a power failure and crash) -- so I added
>that and internet access via wireless modem (via router)
>now is restored. So thank you very much for that. The
>home wireless network now has vanished, but I dare
>say I can reload this p.d.q.

I'm glad that you got it working, Don, but I don't know what actually
fixed it.

Direct Cable Connection lets you connect two computers directly to
each other using a serial or parallel cable. It has nothing to do
with Ethernet networking, wireless networking, or Internet access.

Did you run the Windows XP Network Setup Wizard on the Win98SE
computer? That's what installs Universal Plug and Play and causes the
Internet Gateway icon to appear in the system tray. If you didn't run
that Wizard, then I don't know what the Internet Gateway is/was.
--
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"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I'm glad that you got it working, Don, but I don't know what actually
> fixed it.
>
> Direct Cable Connection lets you connect two computers directly to
> each other using a serial or parallel cable. It has nothing to do
> with Ethernet networking, wireless networking, or Internet access.

Oh oh -- ho ho too. But I should be surprised at nothing, after
the tangle in which I got on the WinXP. (Former setup used
/ Network / Broadband to connect, and I failed to recreate this
when I tried; but now am up and running via Internet Gateway,
from upstairs WinXP wireless ethernet card to downstairs wireless
router and out via wireless ISP modem. The Win98 PC is wired to
the router, which has always connected it automatically (and visiting
cousins just plug their laptops into any free jack.)

> Did you run the Windows XP Network Setup Wizard on the Win98SE
> computer? That's what installs Universal Plug and Play and causes the
> Internet Gateway icon to appear in the system tray. If you didn't run
> that Wizard, then I don't know what the Internet Gateway is/was.

But the sequence did indeed happen as I posted:
1. WinXP / Network / Create New routine.
2. NETSETUP floppy run on WinXP downstairs. The
software reported itself unable to complete, but obviously
got far enough to effect communication.
3. As posted, I installed that Win / Communiciation / Direct
Cable module. . .
4. Because the WinXP Internet Gateway icon appeared
to hang the Win98 system I identified via MSCONFIG its supposed
association on Win98 with RUNDLL32.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\icsdcllt.dll.ICSClient
and with SSDPSRV.EXE and unselected both from MSCONFIG .
I now find this RUNDLL32 routine does not load and SSDPSRV
still does, but I have no icon and no crashes, thus am well satisfied.

Because wireless Internet reception is marginal (and the ISP
did not know it was possible at this location until I repeatedly
badgered them) I can never be sure a long pause or dropped
link happens outside the house or between the upstairs and
downstairs wireless communicators: (I get them on both PCs;)
so plan to streamline or strengthen the system if I can: but
have more urgent tasks and can never give this more than an
hour's time before a synapse blows and the world starts swaying. . . .

The essential thing is I now have communication, and
am grateful for your encouragement.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

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"Don Phillipson" <e925 RemoveThis @SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote in message
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> "Steve Winograd" <bc070521m RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:9stup3pe8s5v745ivvh3cjlumt78slm5an@4ax.com...
>
> > I'm glad that you got it working, Don, but I don't know what actually
> > fixed it.
> >
> > Direct Cable Connection lets you connect two computers directly to
> > each other using a serial or parallel cable. It has nothing to do
> > with Ethernet networking, wireless networking, or Internet access.
>
> Oh oh -- ho ho too. But I should be surprised at nothing, after
> the tangle in which I got on the WinXP. (Former setup used
> / Network / Broadband to connect, and I failed to recreate this
> when I tried; but now am up and running via Internet Gateway,
> from upstairs WinXP wireless ethernet card to downstairs wireless
> router and out via wireless ISP modem. The Win98 PC is wired to
> the router, which has always connected it automatically (and visiting
> cousins just plug their laptops into any free jack.)
>
> > Did you run the Windows XP Network Setup Wizard on the Win98SE
> > computer? That's what installs Universal Plug and Play and causes the
> > Internet Gateway icon to appear in the system tray. If you didn't run
> > that Wizard, then I don't know what the Internet Gateway is/was.
>
> But the sequence did indeed happen as I posted:
> 1. WinXP / Network / Create New routine.
> 2. NETSETUP floppy run on WinXP downstairs. The
> software reported itself unable to complete, but obviously
> got far enough to effect communication.
> 3. As posted, I installed that Win / Communiciation / Direct
> Cable module. . .
> 4. Because the WinXP Internet Gateway icon appeared
> to hang the Win98 system I identified via MSCONFIG its supposed
> association on Win98 with RUNDLL32.EXE
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\icsdcllt.dll.ICSClient
> and with SSDPSRV.EXE and unselected both from MSCONFIG .
> I now find this RUNDLL32 routine does not load and SSDPSRV
> still does, but I have no icon and no crashes, thus am well satisfied.
>
> Because wireless Internet reception is marginal (and the ISP
> did not know it was possible at this location until I repeatedly
> badgered them) I can never be sure a long pause or dropped
> link happens outside the house or between the upstairs and
> downstairs wireless communicators: (I get them on both PCs;)
> so plan to streamline or strengthen the system if I can: but
> have more urgent tasks and can never give this more than an
> hour's time before a synapse blows and the world starts swaying. . . .

Cf. streamlining/strengthening. Since wireless broadband
service began, the following repeatedy occurs (as today
between midnight and 6 a.m.)
1. Electricity outage or something similar (which would
reset to defaults the DC power supplies of router and
wireless modem.)
2. Internet browser then reports "no connection."
3. I connect via telephone DUN (and for this reason
subscribe to the municipal freenet network.)
4. Wireless modem then connects as normal.

This is so common (at least 10 times a year) I have
got used to it (and use a battery-backed UPS which
protects the PC hardware:) but I still do not understand why
the Internet connections behave thus.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)