(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:33 pm
Post subject: Re: At times, no browsing [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>win2000>general (more info?)
"John John (MVP)" <audetweld.RemoveThis@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in
news:Oh$KoYSLJHA.5660@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
> ms wrote:
>
>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld.RemoveThis@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in
>
>>>It might help if you post the content of the most recent Event IDs
>>>7000 & 7001.
>>>I also notice that Events 20158 and 20159 are happening within
>>>seconds or minutes of each other, Event 20158 indicates that a Remote
>>>Connection was made and Event 20159 indicates that the connection was
>>>terminated, you may want to further investigate what is happening
>>>with this.
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>
>> I did that, copies below, XXX hides my username:
>> ---------------
>> Event Type: Information
>> Event Source: RemoteAccess
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 20159
>> Date: 10/5/2008
>> Time: 3:10:44 PM
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: P2
>> Description:
>> The connection to copper made by user XXX.RemoveThis@copper.net using device
>> COM3 was disconnected.
>> ------------------
>> Event Type: Information
>> Event Source: RemoteAccess
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 20158
>> Date: 10/5/2008
>> Time: 5:40:42 PM
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: P2
>> Description:
>> The user XXX.RemoveThis@copper.net successfully established a connection to
>> copper using the device COM3.
>
> I take it that copper.net is your ISP and that COM3 is your modem
> port.
> The above are not in chronological order. Make sure that the Event
> Log is sorted by date and check that Events 20159 are not happening
> almost immediately after Events 20158, that would indicate that your
> connection is being dropped almost as soon as it is made.
>
Thanks for the help.
I adjusted the Event Viewer as you suggested, new data:
----------------
Type Date Time Source Category User Computer Event
Information 10/13/2008 1:45:21 PM RemoteAccess None N/A P2
20159
Information 10/13/2008 1:44:56 PM RemoteAccess None N/A P2
20158
-------------------
Event Type: Information
Event Source: RemoteAccess
Event Category: None
Event ID: 20159
Date: 10/13/2008
Time: 1:45:21 PM
User: N/A
Computer: P2
Description:
The connection to copper made by user XXX.RemoveThis@copper.net using device COM3
was disconnected.
------------------
Event Type: Information
Event Source: RemoteAccess
Event Category: None
Event ID: 20158
Date: 10/13/2008
Time: 1:44:56 PM
User: N/A
Computer: P2
Description:
The user XXX.RemoveThis@copper.net successfully established a connection to copper
using the device COM3.
The data shows that on DUN, I connected to my ISP, tried to browse,
failed, and then I disconnected the DUN.
>> ---------------
>> Event Type: Error
>> Event Source: Service Control Manager
>> Event Category: None
>> Event ID: 7000
>> Date: 9/25/2008
>> Time: 6:51:38 AM
>> User: N/A
>> Computer: P2
>> Description:
>> The HWiNFO32 Kernel Driver service failed to start due to the
>> following error: The system cannot find the file specified.
>
> I'm not sure what the HWiNFO32 Kernel Driver is, you would have to
> search the internet to find out more about it, but that error dates
> from September 25th, it may just be an old one time only error.
That is just a utility I have, not normally running, no impact here IMO.
It
> might help if you clean out the log and work with a clean list of
> recent and current events. To clear the log right-click on System Log
> and select "Clear all Events", there is no need to save to log before
> you clear it.
> Reboot your computer and try connecting to the internet and then
> take
> a look at your log to see what is going on.
>
>
>> First, where is Event Viewer on the hard drive (search didn't find
>> it), is it a standalone exe?
>
> It's in the System32 folder, just launch it from the Run box or
> right-click on "My Computer" and select "Manage", or look in the Start
> Menu>Programs>Administartive Tools.
>
>
>> Then, how do you detect Event ID in Event Viewer? I was just lucky in
>> selecting the above, see no way view ID. I did not locate 7001.
>
> Look at the columns at the top. If you don't see the "Event" Column
> click on the View Menu and add the column to the displayed list.
>
> John
>
It is a simple executable, I copied it out of the System folder, still
works OK.
I posted data on 20158/9, that's all there is since I cleaned the log, I
guess events 7000/1 are old data, not needed?
(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:54 am
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ms wrote:
> I adjusted the Event Viewer as you suggested, new data:
> ----------------
> Type Date Time Source Category User Computer Event
> Information 10/13/2008 1:45:21 PM RemoteAccess None N/A P2
> 20159
> Information 10/13/2008 1:44:56 PM RemoteAccess None N/A P2
>
> (sniped..)
>
> The data shows that on DUN, I connected to my ISP, tried to browse,
> failed, and then I disconnected the DUN.
> I posted data on 20158/9, that's all there is since I cleaned the log, I
> guess events 7000/1 are old data, not needed?
If there are no other new errors in the System log then you can forget
about the old events.
> Next step?
When you connect to the internet can you ping sites? Once connected
open a command prompt and try to ping google.com, do you get a reply?
Can you ping your ISP's DNS address?
Is the machine virus/spyware free? Is your firewall properly configured?
(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:02 pm
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"John John (MVP)" <audetweld.DeleteThis@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in
news:OYCbGOfLJHA.4452@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
> ms wrote:
>
>> I adjusted the Event Viewer as you suggested, new data:
>> ----------------
>> Type Date Time Source Category User Computer
>> Event Information 10/13/2008 1:45:21 PM RemoteAccess
>> None N/A P2
>> 20159
>> Information 10/13/2008 1:44:56 PM RemoteAccess None
>> N/A P2
>>
>> (sniped..)
>>
>> The data shows that on DUN, I connected to my ISP, tried to browse,
>> failed, and then I disconnected the DUN.
>> I posted data on 20158/9, that's all there is since I cleaned the
>> log, I guess events 7000/1 are old data, not needed?
>
> If there are no other new errors in the System log then you can forget
> about the old events.
>
>
>> Next step?
>
> When you connect to the internet can you ping sites? Once connected
> open a command prompt and try to ping google.com, do you get a reply?
> Can you ping your ISP's DNS address?
Here is the data:
--------
11:32:03.671 *** STOP PINGING ***
11:32:19.062 *** START PINGING ***
11:32:20.187 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
11:32:20.187 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
11:32:25.046 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
11:32:25.046 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
11:32:29.578 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
11:32:29.578 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
11:32:34.906 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
11:32:34.906 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
11:32:39.546 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
11:32:39.546 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
11:32:40.906 *** STOP PINGING ***
Sorry, I forgot the other address- my ISP, but when connected, the DUN
tooltip figures all look normal. Symptoms so far are I can connect to my
ISP normally, can't go on internet. I am typing on a W98 machine using
same ISP.
I tried the commandline ping, not familiar with this method so no luck.
The data was with a GUI utility that copied to clipboard, works well.
>
> Is the machine virus/spyware free?
I used to run several big complex install type AV programs, gave up on
them, now run a few small AV/malware scanners, never show anything.
Is your firewall properly configured?
I have used Kerio on various machines for years, here it browsed Ok for
several years, when I stoppped browsing, first thing to check- disabled
the firewall, no help, but it is properly configured.
>
(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:02 pm
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ms wrote:
> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld.TakeThisOut@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in
> news:OYCbGOfLJHA.4452@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>
>>ms wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I adjusted the Event Viewer as you suggested, new data:
>>>----------------
>>>Type Date Time Source Category User Computer
>>> Event Information 10/13/2008 1:45:21 PM RemoteAccess
>>> None N/A P2
>>> 20159
>>>Information 10/13/2008 1:44:56 PM RemoteAccess None
>>> N/A P2
>>>
>>>(sniped..)
>>>
>>>The data shows that on DUN, I connected to my ISP, tried to browse,
>>>failed, and then I disconnected the DUN.
>>>I posted data on 20158/9, that's all there is since I cleaned the
>>>log, I guess events 7000/1 are old data, not needed?
>>
>>If there are no other new errors in the System log then you can forget
>>about the old events.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Next step?
>>
>>When you connect to the internet can you ping sites? Once connected
>>open a command prompt and try to ping google.com, do you get a reply?
>>Can you ping your ISP's DNS address?
>
>
> Here is the data:
> --------
> 11:32:03.671 *** STOP PINGING ***
> 11:32:19.062 *** START PINGING ***
> 11:32:20.187 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
> 11:32:20.187 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
> 11:32:25.046 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
> 11:32:25.046 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
> 11:32:29.578 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
> 11:32:29.578 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
> 11:32:34.906 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
> 11:32:34.906 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
> 11:32:39.546 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
> 11:32:39.546 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
> 11:32:40.906 *** STOP PINGING ***
>
> Sorry, I forgot the other address- my ISP, but when connected, the DUN
> tooltip figures all look normal. Symptoms so far are I can connect to my
> ISP normally, can't go on internet. I am typing on a W98 machine using
> same ISP.
That means that your Windows 98 box is properly configured and that your
ISP's service is running fine, it doesn't tell us much of anything about
your Windows 2000 browsing problems.
> I tried the commandline ping, not familiar with this method so no luck.
> The data was with a GUI utility that copied to clipboard, works well.
So far, based on the ping results you gave us above it appears that
you're not resoving DNS addresses, but without knowing if you can ping
by IP address we cannot be sure. Connect to the internet and then at
the Command Prompt issue the NSLOOKUP command and see if if you can
get the DNS server name and address.
Your GUI ping utility is probaby working fine but not knowing what this
utility is or if it is even designed for the NT line of operating
systems it would be helpful if you could confirm the ping results with
the native Windows 2000 ping utility. In the Start Menu run box enter
CMD then click on OK. At the Command Prompt enter the following commands:
ping 64.233.161.18
and then:
ping -a 64.233.161.18
You can send the results of the ping command to a text file if you want,
enter the following command:
(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:52 pm
Post subject: Re: At times, no browsing [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"John John (MVP)" <audetweld DeleteThis @nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in
news:OYCbGOfLJHA.4452@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
> ms wrote:
>
>> I adjusted the Event Viewer as you suggested, new data:
>> ----------------
>> Type Date Time Source Category User Computer
>> Event Information 10/13/2008 1:45:21 PM RemoteAccess
>> None N/A P2
>> 20159
>> Information 10/13/2008 1:44:56 PM RemoteAccess None
>> N/A P2
>>
>> (sniped..)
>>
>> The data shows that on DUN, I connected to my ISP, tried to browse,
>> failed, and then I disconnected the DUN.
>> I posted data on 20158/9, that's all there is since I cleaned the
>> log, I guess events 7000/1 are old data, not needed?
>
> If there are no other new errors in the System log then you can forget
> about the old events.
>
>
>> Next step?
>
> When you connect to the internet can you ping sites? Once connected
> open a command prompt and try to ping google.com, do you get a reply?
> Can you ping your ISP's DNS address?
>
> Is the machine virus/spyware free? Is your firewall properly
> configured?
>
> John
>
>
Here is the rest of the data, pinging my ISP.
------------
12:38:01.171 *** STOP PINGING ***
12:38:48.968 *** START PINGING ***
12:38:49.218 Reply from 4.243.1.63: bytes=64 time<0ms TTL=128
12:38:49.218 Ping ' copper.net' returned OK.
12:38:53.968 Reply from 4.243.1.63: bytes=64 time<0ms TTL=128
12:38:53.968 Ping ' copper.net' returned OK.
12:38:58.968 Reply from 4.243.1.63: bytes=64 time<0ms TTL=128
12:38:58.968 Ping ' copper.net' returned OK.
12:39:03.968 Reply from 4.243.1.63: bytes=64 time<0ms TTL=128
12:39:03.968 Ping ' copper.net' returned OK.
12:39:08.968 Reply from 4.243.1.63: bytes=64 time<0ms TTL=128
12:39:08.968 Ping ' copper.net' returned OK.
12:39:12.375 *** STOP PINGING ***
I think this says I can ping my ISP, can't ping a web address.
Better mention, I have used Firefox from the Netscape days, the current
version I use is 2.0.0.17 for the past 2 weeks, before it was 2.0.0.16
that browsed for about a year OK, then the problem several months ago,
revert to old registry solved that for awhile, a few days ago it came
back. AFAIK, it's not a browser issue.
(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:52 pm
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In news:6lkbk2FcjmsgU1@mid.individual.net,
ms <ms RemoveThis @invalid.com> typed:
> Here is the rest of the data, pinging my ISP.
> ------------
....
> 12:38:49.218 Reply from 4.243.1.63: bytes=64 time<0ms TTL=128
....
> I think this says I can ping my ISP, can't ping a web address.
No it doesn't. There will never be any such thing as an instantaneous
response; the best response time you'll get will be fractions of a
millisecond. Did you edit what you posted to change it from "time<10ms"?
Beside, that is NOT your ISP. Open the command window and type at the
prompt:
Make sure your DUN (Dial-Up-Networking) interface is using DHCP-assigned IP
address and name servers (right-click on the DUN definition in "Network and
Dial-up Connections" -> Properties -> Networking tab -> Internet Protocol
(TCP/IP) -> Properties, then choose BOTH automatic entries, save eberything
on your way out), then re-connect. If you still have connectivity problems,
go back to the basics in the command window. Copy and paste the entire
results of these 2 commands in your reply, please:
ipconfig /all
and
route print
In case copying from a command window is unfamiliar to you, just highlight
the text to copy with the pointer device, release the pointer and then press
the Enter key, then you can paste into your reply to this post.
> Better mention, I have used Firefox from the Netscape days, the
> current version I use is 2.0.0.17 ...
Get Ff 3.x which has been available for some months now, most recent update
was last week or so. Using old software is begging for problems; there's a
good reason why new stuff is freely available. All your bookmarks etc. will
be retained.
BTW, also check your FF Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> Network tab ->
Settings button and make sure everything is as it should be wrt proxy usage.
(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:23 pm
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"John John (MVP)" <audetweld RemoveThis @nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in
news:OpkAfvjLJHA.3744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
> ms wrote:
>
>> "John John (MVP)" <audetweld RemoveThis @nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in
>> news:OYCbGOfLJHA.4452@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>>
>>
>>>ms wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I adjusted the Event Viewer as you suggested, new data:
>>>>----------------
>>>>Type Date Time Source Category User Computer
>>>> Event Information 10/13/2008 1:45:21 PM RemoteAccess
>>>> None N/A P2
>>>> 20159
>>>>Information 10/13/2008 1:44:56 PM RemoteAccess None
>>>> N/A P2
>>>>
>>>>(sniped..)
>>>>
>>>>The data shows that on DUN, I connected to my ISP, tried to browse,
>>>>failed, and then I disconnected the DUN.
>>>>I posted data on 20158/9, that's all there is since I cleaned the
>>>>log, I guess events 7000/1 are old data, not needed?
>>>
>>>If there are no other new errors in the System log then you can
>>>forget about the old events.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Next step?
>>>
>>>When you connect to the internet can you ping sites? Once connected
>>>open a command prompt and try to ping google.com, do you get a reply?
>>>Can you ping your ISP's DNS address?
>>
>>
>> Here is the data:
>> --------
>> 11:32:03.671 *** STOP PINGING ***
>> 11:32:19.062 *** START PINGING ***
>> 11:32:20.187 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
>> 11:32:20.187 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
>> 11:32:25.046 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
>> 11:32:25.046 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
>> 11:32:29.578 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
>> 11:32:29.578 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
>> 11:32:34.906 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
>> 11:32:34.906 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
>> 11:32:39.546 WSA Error = 11001: Host not found.
>> 11:32:39.546 Ping 'ping google.com' returned FAILED.
>> 11:32:40.906 *** STOP PINGING ***
>>
>> Sorry, I forgot the other address- my ISP, but when connected, the
>> DUN tooltip figures all look normal. Symptoms so far are I can
>> connect to my ISP normally, can't go on internet. I am typing on a
>> W98 machine using same ISP.
>
> That means that your Windows 98 box is properly configured and that
> your ISP's service is running fine, it doesn't tell us much of
> anything about your Windows 2000 browsing problems.
>
>
>> I tried the commandline ping, not familiar with this method so no
>> luck. The data was with a GUI utility that copied to clipboard,
>> works well.
>
> So far, based on the ping results you gave us above it appears that
> you're not resoving DNS addresses, but without knowing if you can ping
> by IP address we cannot be sure. Connect to the internet and then at
> the Command Prompt issue the NSLOOKUP command and see if if you can
> get the DNS server name and address.
>
NSLOOKUP:
Default server:
nsi.insps.net
address: 65.247.64.21
Please see end of message.
> Your GUI ping utility is probaby working fine but not knowing what
> this utility is or if it is even designed for the NT line of operating
> systems it would be helpful if you could confirm the ping results with
> the native Windows 2000 ping utility. In the Start Menu run box enter
> CMD then click on OK. At the Command Prompt enter the following
> commands:
>
> ping 64.233.161.18
>
> and then:
>
> ping -a 64.233.161.18
>
> You can send the results of the ping command to a text file if you
> want, enter the following command:
>
> ping -a 64.233.161.18 >c:\pingtest.txt
>
C:\>netstat 1>c:\Ping.bak
Good news- your earlier lookup command, my ISP text file did not have
that kind of data for my ISP so I called them. The address was wrong-
they had changed awhile ago, so I stopped browsing- wonderful! They send
a monthly billing email, could have notified people.
They had me, in Internet Settings, change from a listed wrong address to
"find DNS automatically". That did it!
A few minor questions:
My other XP and W98 machines work OK, so I guess I have to check as above
in each of them, they must be set to "find DNS automatically", or they
would have stopped browsing, as all my computers have the same DUN
settings.
Where is the normal log file that keeps track of events in W2K? I just
looked in C: and don't see it.
(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:23 pm
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ms wrote:
>>>(sniped..)
>>>
>>>Sorry, I forgot the other address- my ISP, but when connected, the
>>>DUN tooltip figures all look normal. Symptoms so far are I can
>>>connect to my ISP normally, can't go on internet. I am typing on a
>>>W98 machine using same ISP.
>>
>>That means that your Windows 98 box is properly configured and that
>>your ISP's service is running fine, it doesn't tell us much of
>>anything about your Windows 2000 browsing problems.
>>
>>
>>
>>>I tried the commandline ping, not familiar with this method so no
>>>luck. The data was with a GUI utility that copied to clipboard,
>>>works well.
>>
>>So far, based on the ping results you gave us above it appears that
>>you're not resoving DNS addresses, but without knowing if you can ping
>>by IP address we cannot be sure. Connect to the internet and then at
>>the Command Prompt issue the NSLOOKUP command and see if if you can
>>get the DNS server name and address.
>>
>
> NSLOOKUP:
> Default server:
> nsi.insps.net
> address: 65.247.64.21
>
> Please see end of message.
>
>
>>Your GUI ping utility is probaby working fine but not knowing what
>>this utility is or if it is even designed for the NT line of operating
>>systems it would be helpful if you could confirm the ping results with
>>the native Windows 2000 ping utility. In the Start Menu run box enter
>>CMD then click on OK. At the Command Prompt enter the following
>>commands:
>>
>>ping 64.233.161.18
>>
>>and then:
>>
>>ping -a 64.233.161.18
>>
>>You can send the results of the ping command to a text file if you
>>want, enter the following command:
>>
>>ping -a 64.233.161.18 >c:\pingtest.txt
>>
>
> C:\>netstat 1>c:\Ping.bak
>
> Good news- your earlier lookup command, my ISP text file did not have
> that kind of data for my ISP so I called them. The address was wrong-
> they had changed awhile ago, so I stopped browsing- wonderful! They send
> a monthly billing email, could have notified people.
>
> They had me, in Internet Settings, change from a listed wrong address to
> "find DNS automatically". That did it!
>
> A few minor questions:
> My other XP and W98 machines work OK, so I guess I have to check as above
> in each of them, they must be set to "find DNS automatically", or they
> would have stopped browsing, as all my computers have the same DUN
> settings.
If the XP & W9x machines are working fine then they are probably already
set to automatically find the DNS server, nowadays almost all ISPs have
their clients use automatic settings obtain IP & DNS addresses.
> Where is the normal log file that keeps track of events in W2K? I just
> looked in C: and don't see it.
They're .evt files in the %SystemRoot%\System32\Config folder.
(%SystemRoot% is a variable for the system folder, WINNT on Windows
2000, or the same thing as %Windir%). You can't really read these files
without special tools, use the Event Viewer to view the logs.
> Thanks again
You're welcome, I glad to see that you got things fixed.
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