periodic desktop icons moving?

In message <OhzJ#H1JJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, glee
<glee29.TakeThisOut@spamindspring.com> writes
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>That is what my suggestions were for. Check what I asked you to check
>in order to determine if those settings are involved. The icons are
>moving when your system decides to refresh the desktop, and the
>NoSaveSettings data is often invloved in the rearrangement of the icons
>at that time.

Ah, I see.

> Open the Registry Editor (Start>Run>Regedit) and navigate to this key:
>
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\E>
xplorer

> Look for a data value in the right-hand pane named "NoSaveSettings"
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> If no joy:
> re-create "NoSaveSettings" but ensure it is Hex Binary rather than
> DWORD, and set the binary value to 00 00 00 00
> OR
> if TweakUI is installed, check the box for "Save Explorer window
> settings"

I do have TweakUI, and that box is already ticked, so I've gone into
regedit, and that value wasn't there at all, so I've created it and set
it to 00 00 00 00. Will report back what happens!
(Why on earth they have keys with inverse names ...)

Thanks.
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>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
>> Look for a data value in the right-hand pane named "NoSaveSettings"

> (Why on earth they have keys with inverse names ...)



I guess we should be happy they didn't use double negations
DontHaveNoUnSaveSettingsOff = 1

is it possible to have the same settings in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE ?

HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer
is only used when creating a new account I hope.


If windows explorer would have been open source, there would be
lot of features I would remove and lots of registry keys that
would be un-used


It looks like the icon positions is saved here in this registry key:
HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams\Desktop\ViewView2
The other numbered ones in Explorer\Streams\ I guess are for other folders
that have
their icon placement saved... I have 0 to 199 and they have all allmost
the same data

1C 0 0 0 03 0 0 0 (one hade 04 instead of 03)
0 0 0 0 0 0 30 0
02 0 0 0 01 0 0 0 (or 00 instead of 02)
FF FF FF FF F0 F0 F0 F0
14 0 03 0 30 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Desktop begins the same too, but after that, there is more data
and filenames (both the LFN and short filename) with 22 byte
data for each, that looks like for example these:

35 01 00 00 98 00 00 00 31 00 32 00 36 00 24 00 25 39 D8 19 20 00
35 01 00 00 4D 00 00 00 30 00 32 00 96 4F 05 00 25 39 DB 04 20 00
D8 00 00 00 C4 01 00 00 39 00 32 00 87 43 0D 00 21 39 FA 05 20 00
17 02 00 00 AC 01 00 00 19 00 32 00 3F 11 00 00 B9 36 00 00 20 80
06 03 00 00 E3 00 00 00 2D 00 32 00 97 03 00 00 DD 38 BD 8C 20 00