missing drivers

Is there anything in my previous that says otherwise? I thought that's what
I pretty much said. But please explain what is useful about a Belarc report
that I can't gather myself in a short period of time? Tell me that Belarc
doesn't take the information it gathers from Windows at face value, rather
than checking to make sure that what software and patches Windows *says* is
installed actually *is* installed, as opposed to being a crippled or broken
pile of detritus, perhaps destroyed by some other application. Tell me that
it doesn't simply read ENUM and report that at face value, without actually
polling the hardware to see what *it* says it is, rather than simply what
drivers Windows has installed for the hardware, right or wrong.

Belarc Advisor is no more useful than a report generated by MSINFO32. And
both are flawed.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ueZyzywDJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> They're quite different. Belarc basically gives you a one or two page
> fairly detailed summary. Everest (or AIDA32) does more things, in
> different and various categories. So how can you really compare them?
> But both are useful. I think they are complementary.
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> I use Everest to identify hardware. I recall, vaguely, that Belarc isn't
>> as
>> reliable.
>>
>> But I can tell you for a fact, that Belarc won't tell you if an update
>> is
>> properly installed, it will only reflect what Windows thinks is
>> installed.
>> The whole idea of this exercise is to read what's there, not what Windows
>> says is there.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "DaffyD®" <daffyd.TakeThisOut@woohoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:uX41%23ZvDJHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>> What do you think of Belarc Advisor? It's also a free utility which
>>> identifies all hard/software on the computer. I've used it for years.
>>> It
>>> identifies which MS HotFixes and updates have become corrupted and need
>>> to
>>> be reinstalled, and also gives detailed profile of the whole system.
>>> --
>>> { : [|]=( DaffyD®
>>>
>>> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:%23QIG9a9CJHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Get Everest Home Edition and it should accurately identify hardware for
>>>> you,
>>>> provided it isn't *too* new.
>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html
>>>>
>>>> PCI Communications device is a modem.
>>>> Multimedia Device is a sound card.
>>>> USB, well, I'm not sure precisely which device that would be referring
>>>> to --
>>>> the chipset or a connected device.
>>>> Ethernet controller is a LAN card.
>>>>
>>>> Once you identify them by make, model#, chipset or whatever, then you
>>>> can
>>>> check the manufacturers' sites. Problem is, those companies are
>>>> dropping
>>>> support to the point that they don't even provide the drivers, or have
>>>> even
>>>> sabotaged previous installation files to remove or otherwise block 9x
>>>> support.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "Dot65" <Dot65.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:A94B0173-7838-4BBA-99FF-EA0D9E999B32@microsoft.com...
>>>>> had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported
>>>>> PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller
>>>>> all
>>>>> have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need help!
>>>>> Thanks
>
>

I don't post under an alias any longer so anyone who wants to block me can
block me and I think Gary is talking about me but I don't know. I have made
it clear in the past that posting under Art Wilder using his computer was a
mistake and the reason I did it was I had fear of man and fear of identity
theft but this is no longer the case but since I have been so unpredictable
in the past I bear no ill will towards Gary and am truly sorry for the pain
and suffering I caused him in the past because he took me under his wing and
taught me a lot about computers. I was the student and Gary was the teacher
and the world was so new and full of life to me in the 98 general newsgroup.
Then, I went going through so much pain and suffering that it just is not
worth mentioning because this newsgroup is about Windows and mainly Windows
98. It was wrong for me to take out my pain and suffering in the 98 general
newsgroup and I should have just kept a journal which I keep now and write in
it when I want to and this helps me a lot as well as my thyroid medicine and
counseling so I hopefully someday I can mend my ways, lies, sin and deceit of
the past, which I know none but the Higher Power or Force if you will can
cleanse me of fully so I just have faith and keep on trucking along now day
by day. Dan W.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Wouldn't know. Don't actually read his stuff when I can avoid it. He's near
> the top of my Blocked Senders list. Sometimes he just can't stand it and
> takes on an alias for the sole purpose of getting me to read him, which I am
> sometimes caught by, but usually I recognize who it is right away and after
> pointing out how and where he is wrong (usually several ways and
> everywhere), block that sender, too.
>
> And he really, REALLY wants me to listen to his BS. I understand the desire
> to impress one's betters, but why me, someone who has made it clear that
> there is nothing the man can say that I have any desire to read. He wants
> someone to argue with, mostly. Doesn't care what the argument is about so
> long as he can argue.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "
> Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:%23nSuf21DJHA.340@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > Is there anything in my previous that says otherwise? I thought that's
> > what I pretty much said. But please explain what is useful about a Belarc
> > report that I can't gather myself in a short period of time? Tell me that
> > Belarc doesn't take the information it gathers from Windows at face value,
> > rather than checking to make sure that what software and patches Windows
> > *says* is installed actually *is* installed, as opposed to being a
> > crippled or broken pile of detritus, perhaps destroyed by some other
> > application. Tell me that it doesn't simply read ENUM and report that at
> > face value, without actually polling the hardware to see what *it* says it
> > is, rather than simply what drivers Windows has installed for the
> > hardware, right or wrong.
> >
> > Belarc Advisor is no more useful than a report generated by MSINFO32. And
> > both are flawed.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > http://grystmill.com
> >
> > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:ueZyzywDJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> They're quite different. Belarc basically gives you a one or two page
> >> fairly detailed summary. Everest (or AIDA32) does more things, in
> >> different and various categories. So how can you really compare them?
> >> But both are useful. I think they are complementary.
> >>
> >> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> >>> I use Everest to identify hardware. I recall, vaguely, that Belarc isn't
> >>> as
> >>> reliable.
> >>>
> >>> But I can tell you for a fact, that Belarc won't tell you if an update
> >>> is
> >>> properly installed, it will only reflect what Windows thinks is
> >>> installed.
> >>> The whole idea of this exercise is to read what's there, not what
> >>> Windows
> >>> says is there.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Gary S. Terhune
> >>> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >>> http://grystmill.com
> >>>
> >>> "DaffyD" <daffyd RemoveThis @woohoo.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:uX41%23ZvDJHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Gary,
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you think of Belarc Advisor? It's also a free utility which
> >>>> identifies all hard/software on the computer. I've used it for years.
> >>>> It
> >>>> identifies which MS HotFixes and updates have become corrupted and need
> >>>> to
> >>>> be reinstalled, and also gives detailed profile of the whole system.
> >>>> --
> >>>> { : [|]=( DaffyD
> >>>>
> >>>> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >>>> news:%23QIG9a9CJHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>>>> Get Everest Home Edition and it should accurately identify hardware
> >>>>> for you,
> >>>>> provided it isn't *too* new.
> >>>>> http://majorgeeks.com/download4181.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PCI Communications device is a modem.
> >>>>> Multimedia Device is a sound card.
> >>>>> USB, well, I'm not sure precisely which device that would be referring
> >>>>> to --
> >>>>> the chipset or a connected device.
> >>>>> Ethernet controller is a LAN card.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Once you identify them by make, model#, chipset or whatever, then you
> >>>>> can
> >>>>> check the manufacturers' sites. Problem is, those companies are
> >>>>> dropping
> >>>>> support to the point that they don't even provide the drivers, or have
> >>>>> even
> >>>>> sabotaged previous installation files to remove or otherwise block 9x
> >>>>> support.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Gary S. Terhune
> >>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >>>>> http://grystmill.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Dot65" <Dot65 RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:A94B0173-7838-4BBA-99FF-EA0D9E999B32@microsoft.com...
> >>>>>> had to re-install W982ND ED and the follwing probs reported
> >>>>>> PCI Communications Device,USB, Multimedia Device, Ethernet Controller
> >>>>>> all
> >>>>>> have Code 28 (0xic) indicated. Old desktop PC, old program, need
> >>>>>> help!
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>