(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:37 pm
Post subject: Can only send brief messages Add to elertz Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>inetexplorer>ie6_outlookexpress (more info?)
IT'S BACK!
I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending $150
modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely keep
it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I get
error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP to
drop the xfer
(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Can only send brief messages Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Please post the error message in its entirety. You can left click on it to
highlight and then right click to copy and then paste it into this thread.
Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer
of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving, and
causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting changes
and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your up-to-date A/V
program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
Note that for some AV programs, it may be necessary to uninstall the program
and reinstall in Custom Mode and opt out of e-mail scanning when the option
arises.
General precautions for Outlook Express:
Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move your
mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.
After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
working *offline* and do it often.
Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.
Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant layer
of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems such as
time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program will
continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3
In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background and
leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
"SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
news:ON3T2ns6IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> IT'S BACK!
> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending $150
> modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
> identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
> keep it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I get
> error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP to
> drop the xfer
>
(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Can only send brief messages Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Sorry Bruce, I did not intend that message be sent.
Note email scanning is off and running with entire AVAST removed was
previously tried.
PLEASE see my 1800 post on same subject.
SG
"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam.TakeThisOut@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23L51Yqs6IHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Please post the error message in its entirety. You can left click on it to
> highlight and then right click to copy and then paste it into this
> thread.
>
> Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
> layer of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving,
> and causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting
> changes and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your
> up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For
> more, see:
> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 >
> Note that for some AV programs, it may be necessary to uninstall the
> program and reinstall in Custom Mode and opt out of e-mail scanning when
> the option arises.
>
> General precautions for Outlook Express:
>
> Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
> corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
> your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user created
> folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.
>
> After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
> working *offline* and do it often.
>
> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
> until the compacting is completed.
>
> Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
> layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
> such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V program
> will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 >
> In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background
> and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
>
> And backup often.
>
> Backup & Restore:
> http://www.insideoe.com/backup/ >
> This is a great two click program:
>
> Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
> http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx > --
>
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
> news:ON3T2ns6IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> IT'S BACK!
>> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending $150
>> modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
>> identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
>> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
>> keep it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
>> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I get
>> error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP to
>> drop the xfer
>>
>
(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Can only send brief messages Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
"SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
news:e%23GHu4s6IHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Sorry Bruce, I did not intend that message be sent.
> Note email scanning is off and running with entire AVAST removed was
> previously tried.
> PLEASE see my 1800 post on same subject.
> SG
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam DeleteThis @mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23L51Yqs6IHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Please post the error message in its entirety. You can left click on it
>> to highlight and then right click to copy and then paste it into this
>> thread.
>>
>> Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
>> layer of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving,
>> and causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting
>> changes and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your
>> up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For
>> more, see:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 >>
>> Note that for some AV programs, it may be necessary to uninstall the
>> program and reinstall in Custom Mode and opt out of e-mail scanning when
>> the option arises.
>>
>> General precautions for Outlook Express:
>>
>> Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
>> corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
>> your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
>> created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is feasible.
>>
>> After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
>> working *offline* and do it often.
>>
>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
>> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
>> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
>> until the compacting is completed.
>>
>> Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
>> layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
>> such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V
>> program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
>> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 >>
>> In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background
>> and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
>>
>> And backup often.
>>
>> Backup & Restore:
>> http://www.insideoe.com/backup/ >>
>> This is a great two click program:
>>
>> Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
>> http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx >> --
>>
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
>> news:ON3T2ns6IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> IT'S BACK!
>>> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending $150
>>> modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
>>> identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
>>> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
>>> keep it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
>>> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I get
>>> error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP to
>>> drop the xfer
>>>
>>
>
>
(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Can only send brief messages Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Review all your settings here *very carefully*. Every checkbox. etc.
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA
"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam DeleteThis @mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:uRsTk6s6IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Please stick with one thread. Thank you.
>
> How to troubleshoot error messages that you receive when try to send and
> receive e-mail in Outlook and in Outlook Express:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;813514&Product=oex > --
>
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
> news:e%23GHu4s6IHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Sorry Bruce, I did not intend that message be sent.
>> Note email scanning is off and running with entire AVAST removed was
>> previously tried.
>> PLEASE see my 1800 post on same subject.
>> SG
>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam DeleteThis @mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:%23L51Yqs6IHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Please post the error message in its entirety. You can left click on it
>>> to highlight and then right click to copy and then paste it into this
>>> thread.
>>>
>>> Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
>>> layer of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and receiving,
>>> and causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs, account setting
>>> changes and has even been responsible for lose of messages. Your
>>> up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For
>>> more, see:
>>> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 >>>
>>> Note that for some AV programs, it may be necessary to uninstall the
>>> program and reinstall in Custom Mode and opt out of e-mail scanning when
>>> the option arises.
>>>
>>> General precautions for Outlook Express:
>>>
>>> Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
>>> corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
>>> your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
>>> created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
>>> feasible.
>>>
>>> After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
>>> working *offline* and do it often.
>>>
>>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
>>> open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
>>> Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything
>>> until the compacting is completed.
>>>
>>> Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
>>> layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of problems
>>> such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date A/V
>>> program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
>>> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 >>>
>>> In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in background
>>> and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
>>>
>>> And backup often.
>>>
>>> Backup & Restore:
>>> http://www.insideoe.com/backup/ >>>
>>> This is a great two click program:
>>>
>>> Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
>>> http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx >>> --
>>>
>>> Bruce Hagen
>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>
>>>
>>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
>>> news:ON3T2ns6IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> IT'S BACK!
>>>> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending $150
>>>> modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
>>>> identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
>>>> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
>>>> keep it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
>>>> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I get
>>>> error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP
>>>> to drop the xfer
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Can only send brief messages Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I previously worked for hours with Sonic tech's over phone and Phone co rep
at home. No luck. I rechecked settings and those from Sonic site do NOT work
for me. I cannot use SSL settings as sonic will not accept my password so I
use ports 25 -- 110 and not ssl. these were given to me by sonic.
Thanks still have hope..
Review all your settings here *very carefully*. Every checkbox. etc.
"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam.TakeThisOut@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23sl6a9s6IHA.1080@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Review all your settings here *very carefully*. Every checkbox. etc.
>
> Configure Outlook Express using Sonic.net:
> http://www.sonic.net/support/ss/windows/xp/oe/settings.shtml > --
>
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam.TakeThisOut@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uRsTk6s6IHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Please stick with one thread. Thank you.
>>
>> How to troubleshoot error messages that you receive when try to send and
>> receive e-mail in Outlook and in Outlook Express:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;813514&Product=oex >> --
>>
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
>> news:e%23GHu4s6IHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Sorry Bruce, I did not intend that message be sent.
>>> Note email scanning is off and running with entire AVAST removed was
>>> previously tried.
>>> PLEASE see my 1800 post on same subject.
>>> SG
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam.TakeThisOut@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:%23L51Yqs6IHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Please post the error message in its entirety. You can left click on it
>>>> to highlight and then right click to copy and then paste it into this
>>>> thread.
>>>>
>>>> Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
>>>> layer of protection that eats up CPUs, slows down sending and
>>>> receiving, and causes a multitude of problems such as time-outs,
>>>> account setting changes and has even been responsible for lose of
>>>> messages. Your up-to-date A/V program will continue to protect you
>>>> sufficiently. For more, see:
>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 >>>>
>>>> Note that for some AV programs, it may be necessary to uninstall the
>>>> program and reinstall in Custom Mode and opt out of e-mail scanning
>>>> when the option arises.
>>>>
>>>> General precautions for Outlook Express:
>>>>
>>>> Do not archive mail in default OE folders. They will eventually become
>>>> corrupt. Create your own user defined folders for storing mail and move
>>>> your mail to them. Empty Deleted Items folder regularly. Keep user
>>>> created folders under 100MB, and Default folders as empty as is
>>>> feasible.
>>>>
>>>> After you are done, follow up by compacting your folders manually while
>>>> working *offline* and do it often.
>>>>
>>>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
>>>> are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in
>>>> the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
>>>> anything until the compacting is completed.
>>>>
>>>> Turn off e-mail scanning in your anti-virus program. It is a redundant
>>>> layer of protection that eats up CPUs and causes a multitude of
>>>> problems such as time-outs and account setting changes. Your up-to-date
>>>> A/V program will continue to protect you sufficiently. For more, see:
>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3 >>>>
>>>> In Tools | Options | Maintenance: Uncheck Compact messages in
>>>> background and leave it unchecked. {N/A if running XP/SP2}.
>>>>
>>>> And backup often.
>>>>
>>>> Backup & Restore:
>>>> http://www.insideoe.com/backup/ >>>>
>>>> This is a great two click program:
>>>>
>>>> Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB)
>>>> http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx >>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
>>>> news:ON3T2ns6IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> IT'S BACK!
>>>>> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending
>>>>> $150 modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a
>>>>> new identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
>>>>> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
>>>>> keep it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
>>>>> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I
>>>>> get error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my
>>>>> ISP to drop the xfer
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Can only send brief messages Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Please stick to one (1) thread.
Whaddya mean, "It's BACK"??
<QP>
"A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. Subject 'Fw: Union
Rules', Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server: 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol: SMTP,
Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC19"
</QP>
=> Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
additional protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
<QP>
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions.
</QP>
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
SG wrote:
> IT'S BACK!
> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending $150
> modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
> identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
> keep
> it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I get
> error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP to
> drop the xfer
(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Can only send brief messages Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Sorry about the two thread thing but this thread is following a post that
doesn't contain all the information I posted in the other one. This thread
was posted by error before I completed and reviewed my words.
I will now stick to this thread but remember more descriptive info in my
1800 post.
It's back= it occurred a few times and was worked around by generating new
identity - getting tired of generating new identities, hoping to fix root
cause.
SG
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OAhb8R16IHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Please stick to one (1) thread.
>
> Whaddya mean, "It's BACK"??
>
> <QP>
> "A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. Subject 'Fw:
> Union
> Rules', Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server: 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol:
> SMTP,
> Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC19"
> </QP>
>
> Troubleshooting error messages that you receive when you are using OL and
> OE
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813514 >
> => OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [SONIC] | Properties | Advanced | Break
> apart... (uncheck).
>
> => Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It provides no
> additional protection and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>
> <QP>
> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
> that
> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
> the most recent virus definitions.
> </QP>
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106 > --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net > DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >
> SG wrote:
>> IT'S BACK!
>> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending $150
>> modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
>> identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
>> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
>> keep
>> it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
>> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I get
>> error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP to
>> drop the xfer
>
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