laptops & monitor driver

Great advice, here and in the other note Gary. I suspect my problem then, is
not the 'display adapter' but the monitor ... but I may reinstall everything
as you suggest.

By the way ... I got your CDs for Windows 98, 98SE, etc. updates. They
worked wonderfully. Thanks much for sending them to me. And I very much
appreciate your wilingness to help and your (excessively in my opinion) fair
price for the update CDs. Thanks again.

- Scott.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> The monitor in a laptop is no different, really, from stand-alones. It needs
> drivers. Suggest you reinstall BOTH video and monitor drivers, in that
> order.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "buffalo rider" <buffalorider DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:57C79124-ADF7-4207-9298-0AF6A207A5E5@microsoft.com...
> > Does anyone know if the monitor driver matters in laptops?
> >
> > When we click on the 'display' icon (or function) and select
> > Settings->Advanced,
> > we have two places to select drivers.
> > a. Display Adapter
> > b. Monitor
> >
> > For non-laptop computers, we use both, and both make a difference.
> >
> > For laptop computers where the display is built in, does the monitor
> > driver
> > matter? Is it monitor driver bypassed?
> >
> > Thanks BR
>
>
>

Umm.... I was just answering the question you posed. If I recall this whole
disjointed topic correctly (try to keep it to one thread in one group next
time, OK?), your main problem is the video adapter, not the monitor. Still,
if you reinstall the video adapter, you want to reinstall the monitor
afterwards.

Forgive me if it's obvious from some other post, but you HAVE visited Safe
Mode and reviewed for duplicate entries? There should only be one monitor
listed, for instance. But don't restrict the review to the video/monitor
components only. Are there ANY other duplications that don't actually
represent two duplicate components?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"buffalo rider" <buffalorider.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5CF7C23D-B805-4BEF-AE53-9D51ADE69A8A@microsoft.com...
> Great advice, here and in the other note Gary. I suspect my problem then,
> is
> not the 'display adapter' but the monitor ... but I may reinstall
> everything
> as you suggest.
>
> By the way ... I got your CDs for Windows 98, 98SE, etc. updates. They
> worked wonderfully. Thanks much for sending them to me. And I very much
> appreciate your wilingness to help and your (excessively in my opinion)
> fair
> price for the update CDs. Thanks again.
>
> - Scott.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> The monitor in a laptop is no different, really, from stand-alones. It
>> needs
>> drivers. Suggest you reinstall BOTH video and monitor drivers, in that
>> order.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "buffalo rider" <buffalorider.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:57C79124-ADF7-4207-9298-0AF6A207A5E5@microsoft.com...
>> > Does anyone know if the monitor driver matters in laptops?
>> >
>> > When we click on the 'display' icon (or function) and select
>> > Settings->Advanced,
>> > we have two places to select drivers.
>> > a. Display Adapter
>> > b. Monitor
>> >
>> > For non-laptop computers, we use both, and both make a difference.
>> >
>> > For laptop computers where the display is built in, does the monitor
>> > driver
>> > matter? Is it monitor driver bypassed?
>> >
>> > Thanks BR
>>
>>
>>

PS -- Thanks for the feedback on the CDs. Nice to know someone has actually
used them and that they work correctly.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"buffalo rider" <buffalorider.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5CF7C23D-B805-4BEF-AE53-9D51ADE69A8A@microsoft.com...
> Great advice, here and in the other note Gary. I suspect my problem then,
> is
> not the 'display adapter' but the monitor ... but I may reinstall
> everything
> as you suggest.
>
> By the way ... I got your CDs for Windows 98, 98SE, etc. updates. They
> worked wonderfully. Thanks much for sending them to me. And I very much
> appreciate your wilingness to help and your (excessively in my opinion)
> fair
> price for the update CDs. Thanks again.
>
> - Scott.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> The monitor in a laptop is no different, really, from stand-alones. It
>> needs
>> drivers. Suggest you reinstall BOTH video and monitor drivers, in that
>> order.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "buffalo rider" <buffalorider.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:57C79124-ADF7-4207-9298-0AF6A207A5E5@microsoft.com...
>> > Does anyone know if the monitor driver matters in laptops?
>> >
>> > When we click on the 'display' icon (or function) and select
>> > Settings->Advanced,
>> > we have two places to select drivers.
>> > a. Display Adapter
>> > b. Monitor
>> >
>> > For non-laptop computers, we use both, and both make a difference.
>> >
>> > For laptop computers where the display is built in, does the monitor
>> > driver
>> > matter? Is it monitor driver bypassed?
>> >
>> > Thanks BR
>>
>>
>>

I haven't been able to do the various things you recommend yet. I will post
a response when I finish, let you (and others who might visit this) know what
happened. I have a major deadline this week that has kept me occupied
through the weekend, but I will try these things the next couple days.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Umm.... I was just answering the question you posed. If I recall this whole
> disjointed topic correctly (try to keep it to one thread in one group next
> time, OK?), your main problem is the video adapter, not the monitor. Still,
> if you reinstall the video adapter, you want to reinstall the monitor
> afterwards.
>
> Forgive me if it's obvious from some other post, but you HAVE visited Safe
> Mode and reviewed for duplicate entries? There should only be one monitor
> listed, for instance. But don't restrict the review to the video/monitor
> components only. Are there ANY other duplications that don't actually
> represent two duplicate components?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "buffalo rider" <buffalorider DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5CF7C23D-B805-4BEF-AE53-9D51ADE69A8A@microsoft.com...
> > Great advice, here and in the other note Gary. I suspect my problem then,
> > is
> > not the 'display adapter' but the monitor ... but I may reinstall
> > everything
> > as you suggest.
> >
> > By the way ... I got your CDs for Windows 98, 98SE, etc. updates. They
> > worked wonderfully. Thanks much for sending them to me. And I very much
> > appreciate your wilingness to help and your (excessively in my opinion)
> > fair
> > price for the update CDs. Thanks again.
> >
> > - Scott.
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> >
> >> The monitor in a laptop is no different, really, from stand-alones. It
> >> needs
> >> drivers. Suggest you reinstall BOTH video and monitor drivers, in that
> >> order.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> www.grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "buffalo rider" <buffalorider DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:57C79124-ADF7-4207-9298-0AF6A207A5E5@microsoft.com...
> >> > Does anyone know if the monitor driver matters in laptops?
> >> >
> >> > When we click on the 'display' icon (or function) and select
> >> > Settings->Advanced,
> >> > we have two places to select drivers.
> >> > a. Display Adapter
> >> > b. Monitor
> >> >
> >> > For non-laptop computers, we use both, and both make a difference.
> >> >
> >> > For laptop computers where the display is built in, does the monitor
> >> > driver
> >> > matter? Is it monitor driver bypassed?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks BR
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Hi Gary,
I finally got to your note. Your suggestion worked !!

I went into Safe Mode, as you suggested. As you suspected for a potential
problem, I had two monitors and two display adapters in the Device Manager --
both the same, but two nonetheless. So what did I do?
o I deleted both Display Adapters.
o I deleted both Monitors
o I went into the registry, searched on 'NeoM' and other keywords related
to my display adaper. I deleted all these entries.

I then turned off the computer, powered up normally. The plug-n-play
feature found a NeoMagic driver that I had previously added to my driver
'library'. I thought this would then repeat my problem, but it did not.
Windows 98SE installed the driver and to my surprise, it worked. I turned
off the computer, turned it back on, and this time plug-n-play found a
Monitor driver.

The screen now looks good as new, I can now use the laptop again without
getting a headache. Thanks much. You're a diamond !

- BR -

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Umm.... I was just answering the question you posed. If I recall this whole
> disjointed topic correctly (try to keep it to one thread in one group next
> time, OK?), your main problem is the video adapter, not the monitor. Still,
> if you reinstall the video adapter, you want to reinstall the monitor
> afterwards.
>
> Forgive me if it's obvious from some other post, but you HAVE visited Safe
> Mode and reviewed for duplicate entries? There should only be one monitor
> listed, for instance. But don't restrict the review to the video/monitor
> components only. Are there ANY other duplications that don't actually
> represent two duplicate components?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "buffalo rider" <buffalorider.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5CF7C23D-B805-4BEF-AE53-9D51ADE69A8A@microsoft.com...
> > Great advice, here and in the other note Gary. I suspect my problem then,
> > is
> > not the 'display adapter' but the monitor ... but I may reinstall
> > everything
> > as you suggest.
> >
> > By the way ... I got your CDs for Windows 98, 98SE, etc. updates. They
> > worked wonderfully. Thanks much for sending them to me. And I very much
> > appreciate your wilingness to help and your (excessively in my opinion)
> > fair
> > price for the update CDs. Thanks again.
> >
> > - Scott.
> >
> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
> >
> >> The monitor in a laptop is no different, really, from stand-alones. It
> >> needs
> >> drivers. Suggest you reinstall BOTH video and monitor drivers, in that
> >> order.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary S. Terhune
> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >> www.grystmill.com
> >>
> >> "buffalo rider" <buffalorider.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:57C79124-ADF7-4207-9298-0AF6A207A5E5@microsoft.com...
> >> > Does anyone know if the monitor driver matters in laptops?
> >> >
> >> > When we click on the 'display' icon (or function) and select
> >> > Settings->Advanced,
> >> > we have two places to select drivers.
> >> > a. Display Adapter
> >> > b. Monitor
> >> >
> >> > For non-laptop computers, we use both, and both make a difference.
> >> >
> >> > For laptop computers where the display is built in, does the monitor
> >> > driver
> >> > matter? Is it monitor driver bypassed?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks BR
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Right on, right on.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"buffalo rider" <buffalorider.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F685A98D-F31A-4F3F-BDFD-6BDF8C33E887@microsoft.com...
> Hi Gary,
> I finally got to your note. Your suggestion worked !!
>
> I went into Safe Mode, as you suggested. As you suspected for a potential
> problem, I had two monitors and two display adapters in the Device
> Manager --
> both the same, but two nonetheless. So what did I do?
> o I deleted both Display Adapters.
> o I deleted both Monitors
> o I went into the registry, searched on 'NeoM' and other keywords
> related
> to my display adaper. I deleted all these entries.
>
> I then turned off the computer, powered up normally. The plug-n-play
> feature found a NeoMagic driver that I had previously added to my driver
> 'library'. I thought this would then repeat my problem, but it did not.
> Windows 98SE installed the driver and to my surprise, it worked. I turned
> off the computer, turned it back on, and this time plug-n-play found a
> Monitor driver.
>
> The screen now looks good as new, I can now use the laptop again without
> getting a headache. Thanks much. You're a diamond !
>
> - BR -
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>
>> Umm.... I was just answering the question you posed. If I recall this
>> whole
>> disjointed topic correctly (try to keep it to one thread in one group
>> next
>> time, OK?), your main problem is the video adapter, not the monitor.
>> Still,
>> if you reinstall the video adapter, you want to reinstall the monitor
>> afterwards.
>>
>> Forgive me if it's obvious from some other post, but you HAVE visited
>> Safe
>> Mode and reviewed for duplicate entries? There should only be one monitor
>> listed, for instance. But don't restrict the review to the video/monitor
>> components only. Are there ANY other duplications that don't actually
>> represent two duplicate components?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "buffalo rider" <buffalorider.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5CF7C23D-B805-4BEF-AE53-9D51ADE69A8A@microsoft.com...
>> > Great advice, here and in the other note Gary. I suspect my problem
>> > then,
>> > is
>> > not the 'display adapter' but the monitor ... but I may reinstall
>> > everything
>> > as you suggest.
>> >
>> > By the way ... I got your CDs for Windows 98, 98SE, etc. updates. They
>> > worked wonderfully. Thanks much for sending them to me. And I very
>> > much
>> > appreciate your wilingness to help and your (excessively in my opinion)
>> > fair
>> > price for the update CDs. Thanks again.
>> >
>> > - Scott.
>> >
>> > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The monitor in a laptop is no different, really, from stand-alones. It
>> >> needs
>> >> drivers. Suggest you reinstall BOTH video and monitor drivers, in that
>> >> order.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Gary S. Terhune
>> >> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >> www.grystmill.com
>> >>
>> >> "buffalo rider" <buffalorider.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:57C79124-ADF7-4207-9298-0AF6A207A5E5@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Does anyone know if the monitor driver matters in laptops?
>> >> >
>> >> > When we click on the 'display' icon (or function) and select
>> >> > Settings->Advanced,
>> >> > we have two places to select drivers.
>> >> > a. Display Adapter
>> >> > b. Monitor
>> >> >
>> >> > For non-laptop computers, we use both, and both make a difference.
>> >> >
>> >> > For laptop computers where the display is built in, does the monitor
>> >> > driver
>> >> > matter? Is it monitor driver bypassed?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks BR
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>