(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:04 am
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On Oct 21, 5:02 am, "Mike M" <No_Spam.DeleteThis@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:
> Not always necessary to open up a desktop. I've got a cheap external box
> that can be connected using either usb or firewire that can take anything
> from a 5˝" DVD writer, through a 3˝" 1/3 height HD to a 2˝" laptop drive.
Yes Mike, but I don't think you could install an OS to it through USB,
it needs to be the C drive in most cases (or the D, as you mentioned),
to allow OS installation, right? USB external boxes usually show up as
G, H, I, J, etc. drives in my experience.
I read somewhere that it's possible to rename the External Box as the
C drive, but I imagine that would make Windows go nuts.
(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:25 am
Post subject: Re: Can I get the ME install CD to only reformat the C partition, not the D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
If anyone else is interested, this is the zip I propose to send Gumby -
although now that I've uploaded it he might as well just download it from
here:
It is about 8MB. It contains a brief ReadMe but I should state here that
anyone who wanted to download this (for reference purposes) should scan the
zip with their up-to-date antivirus software before unzipping it.
Unzipped to Windows Millennium's C: drive will unhide Real Mode DOS,
although being set up for British English keyboards, users of other layouts
would be required to edit autoexec.bat and config.sys first, instructions
for which are contained in those files and alluded to in ReadMe.txt, while
MS-DOS 6.22's Country.txt is included for further reference. Users of U.S.
or Canadian English keyboard layouts already have half the work done for
them.
Shane
"Gumby" <gumbygum.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Really overwhelmed by all the helpful suggestions. Shane sent me an
> email that, if I understood it correctly, might have a way to put
> WinMeDos on my laptop HD by copying it over from an XP desktop. And
> that this might enable me to get a DOS prompt when I boot the laptop.
> If I could get a DOS prompt, then I could run setup from the ME
> install CD that I previously copied to the D partition. That would be
> the easiest and cheapest of all options to get this machine running
> again.
>
> You know, I must correct something I wrote earlier. Actually, the
> fellow who previously installed Win ME on my laptop HD from another
> computer did not put the HD into another laptop, but installed ME from
> a laptop HD connector on an XP desktop. I wonder how he was able to do
> that? Was it that the laptop HD was connected in such a way as to be a
> slave to his desktop's C drive? I don't really know what "slave" drive
> means, but that occurred to me as a possibility.
>
> He did in fact install only the first stage of the install, the
> "copying files" stage, then disconnected the laptop HD and put it in
> my laptop, where it proceeded to detect my hardware upon restarting.
>
> Bart, thanks for the suggestion but my laptop's CD drive does not
> work, in addition to the nonfunctional floppy drive.
(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:57 pm
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Arturo Seis wrote:
> So I'm Arturo Seis???
>
> Not sure how that happened!
>
> <snip>
> Shane
>
Anything is possible with OE ... even a personality transplant. <w>
(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:47 pm
Post subject: Re: Can I get the ME install CD to only reformat the C partition, not the D? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I'm sorry but you don't appear to have taken in what I said. Nowhere did
I say in my previous post anything about "installing", instead I simply
stated how to access a laptop drive using a desktop and an external usb
box and laptop IDE/full size IDE converter. In my case I did "install" an
OS but this was by first imaging the existing system from the old drive
and then restoring that image to the new drive. Nowhere did I say or
suggest that that was something you should consider.
> I read somewhere that it's possible to rename the External Box as the
> C drive, but I imagine that would make Windows go nuts.
Why do you want to do this? Not that it isn't a simple job with a modern
desktop but I can't think why you should want to do this. I've in a
number of posts made a suggestion as to how to clean install Win Me on
your laptop drive by copying the DOS boot files from the Win Me boot
floppy and the Win9x folder from the Win Me CD to the laptop drive using a
desktop and then restoring the drive to the laptop, booting to DOS and
then running setup. Shane has also made some suggestions.
May I make one final suggestion and that is that you now try some of the
various suggestions that have been made.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.TakeThisOut@gmail.com
Gumby <gumbygum.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 21, 5:02am, "Mike M" <No_Spam.TakeThisOut@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:
>> Not always necessary to open up a desktop. I've got a cheap external
>> box that can be connected using either usb or firewire that can take
>> anything from a 5" DVD writer, through a 3" 1/3 height HD to a 2"
>> laptop drive.
>
> Yes Mike, but I don't think you could install an OS to it through USB,
> it needs to be the C drive in most cases (or the D, as you mentioned),
> to allow OS installation, right? USB external boxes usually show up as
> G, H, I, J, etc. drives in my experience.
>
> I read somewhere that it's possible to rename the External Box as the
> C drive, but I imagine that would make Windows go nuts.
(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:10 pm
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Perhaps a bit late in the day now, but - and I don't want to burst the
bubble - maybe another 'lateral solution' (yet another skin of the cat!)
would have been to simply obtain a 2.5 inch IDE to USB enclosure and put
your 'original laptop' HDD in it to make and add a portable drive to your XP
box. (Self-powered [USB buspowered]) Secure too. And forget the laptop!
You could then access any/all your partitions and preserve their data or
delete any unwanted files (including your broken WinMe installation files).
Make life easy for yourself and could even save us all a lot of trouble too
<g>
Update (just before I press the Send button) - Seems Mike and others are
pointing you in this direction too.
Mart
"Gumby" <gumbygum.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mart No Spam,
>
> No, it wasn't a "crash" like dropping the laptop on the floor. Those
> hardware items have all slowly broken over the years. I used "crash"
> rather loosely. What actually happened, I think, is that a tear
> developed in the laptop's internal HD connector ribbon, severing
> several of the conductive thingies. This happened due to my habit of
> removing the HD from the laptop every day when I went out, in order to
> keep it from being stolen, as it was the only piece of hardware in my
> dilapidated laptop that anyone would want to steal, had lots of
> personal info on it (this was a concern before I learned recently to
> encrypt) and for several years I've lived in hotels in various Third
> World countries where hotel rooms are not safe places to leave
> valuables. My laptop's been "open" for several years...i.e., the top
> cover is removed and the HD would be simple to steal.
>
> One day, after about 20 attempts to boot my computer which resulted in
> "no operating system found" errors, it suddenly booted. But then after
> an hour or so I got a blue screen. I think what happened is those torn
> conductive thingies must have touched briefly, long enough for me to
> start the computer, and then came apart again. Anyway, after that, I
> could not boot it, and Windows apparently went bonkers as there were
> all sorts of crazy files in my HD's Windows folder with bizarre names.
> I fixed these with Scandisk on an XP computer. Then I found someone
> who claimed he could actually fix the ribbon connector. He soldered
> it, and I think it works now, but still the system will not boot, it
> says that it can't find various essential files...so Windows was
> fatally damaged by the incident, I suspect.
>
> So...that's the "crash" ... you see why I tried to simplify a rather
> involved story... )
>
> And it is a lot of work researching this, but it would be very helpful
> to me if I had my computer for the last 2 months of the year. I
> suppose it is a bit of a challenge as well.
>
> And before someone asks, yes, if I can get the computer to work, I
> will leave the HD in it and risk its theft, in order not to damage the
> delicate HD ribbon connector. Now the HD has all my important stuff on
> encrypted virtual drives, so its theft wouldn't be a great loss.
(Msg. 30) Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:31 pm
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> would have been to simply obtain a 2.5 inch IDE to USB
> enclosure and put your 'original laptop' HDD in it to make
Something I've suggested at least twice although as a means of getting the
OS installation files on to the disk rather than as a permanent solution
since the reasons for getting the laptop working again hadn't been made
clear at that point.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby DeleteThis @gmail.com
Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:
> Perhaps a bit late in the day now, but - and I don't want to burst the
> bubble - maybe another 'lateral solution' (yet another skin of the
> cat!) would have been to simply obtain a 2.5 inch IDE to USB
> enclosure and put your 'original laptop' HDD in it to make and add a
> portable drive to your XP box. (Self-powered [USB buspowered]) Secure
> too. And forget the laptop!
> See a UK example - (do your own Google for a US version) - here :-
> http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=603611&Product=Icy+Box...0U-WH+E >
> You could then access any/all your partitions and preserve their data
> or delete any unwanted files (including your broken WinMe
> installation files). Make life easy for yourself and could even save
> us all a lot of trouble too <g>
>
> Update (just before I press the Send button) - Seems Mike and others
> are pointing you in this direction too.
(Msg. 31) Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:32 pm
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Corday <10Swinner DeleteThis @net.net> wrote:
> This thread is getting confusing. It seems the problem has been
> solved if the responses had been tried.
Indeed, and as far as I can tell to date, not one of the suggestions has
yet been tried.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby DeleteThis @gmail.com
(Msg. 32) Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:59 pm
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> since the reasons for getting the laptop working again hadn't been made
> clear at that point.
Quite so Mike, hence the 'lateral solution' - but I'd already written it
before I saw your other response and though I'd send it anyway )
Mart
"Mike M" <No_Spam.RemoveThis@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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>> would have been to simply obtain a 2.5 inch IDE to USB
>> enclosure and put your 'original laptop' HDD in it to make
>
> Something I've suggested at least twice although as a means of getting the
> OS installation files on to the disk rather than as a permanent solution
> since the reasons for getting the laptop working again hadn't been made
> clear at that point. > --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby.RemoveThis@gmail.com
>
>
> Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps a bit late in the day now, but - and I don't want to burst the
>> bubble - maybe another 'lateral solution' (yet another skin of the
>> cat!) would have been to simply obtain a 2.5 inch IDE to USB
>> enclosure and put your 'original laptop' HDD in it to make and add a
>> portable drive to your XP box. (Self-powered [USB buspowered]) Secure
>> too. And forget the laptop!
>> See a UK example - (do your own Google for a US version) - here :-
>> http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=603611&Product=Icy+Box...0U-WH+E >>
>> You could then access any/all your partitions and preserve their data
>> or delete any unwanted files (including your broken WinMe
>> installation files). Make life easy for yourself and could even save
>> us all a lot of trouble too <g>
>>
>> Update (just before I press the Send button) - Seems Mike and others
>> are pointing you in this direction too.
>
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