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fish dong

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Since: Feb 10, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:44 pm
Post subject: any ideas on how to install an MS-DOS based windows version on compact flash?
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>technet, others (more info?)

I got a neat new computer that does things none of my previous ones
could, including booting from flash media. This may solve a problem
of mine if I can figure it out. I have some old MS-DOS based programs
I would like to still run, however I cannot get them to work in XP
pro. Instead of using an older PC and having to have 2 computers I
was wondering if anyone knows how it might be possible to install
windows 95, 98, or 98SE on to a CF card. My first and main problem is
finding a way to format the CF so it is bootable. I assume that worst
comes to worse I can install the version of windows on my HD on a
pre-setup partition and then transfer the files (hidden included) to
the CF. BUT I can't seem to format the CF as a bootable drive (with
MS-Dos of the correct version) The CF is more than large enough for
win 98 and the programs I need on it. I won't need networking, just
video display, usb support, sound support (onboard) and I guess it
will need to support my built in card reader? all drivers that I
should be able to get from my manufacturer before hand.


secondly, would it be easier to run straight up MS-DOS without
windows?

any help would be appreciated. I have some technical experience
dating back to x386 machines, just curious. or would it be simpler to
just use an older PC?
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philo

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Since: Mar 05, 2004
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:44 pm
Post subject: Re: any ideas on how to install an MS-DOS based windows version on compact flash? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"fish dong" <fido DeleteThis @ihatespam.com> wrote in message
news:7con01p7jta58jh6tc2vag4pc8680ta904@4ax.com...
>I got a neat new computer that does things none of my previous ones
> could, including booting from flash media. This may solve a problem
> of mine if I can figure it out. I have some old MS-DOS based programs
> I would like to still run, however I cannot get them to work in XP
> pro. Instead of using an older PC and having to have 2 computers I
> was wondering if anyone knows how it might be possible to install
> windows 95, 98, or 98SE on to a CF card. My first and main problem is
> finding a way to format the CF so it is bootable. I assume that worst
> comes to worse I can install the version of windows on my HD on a
> pre-setup partition and then transfer the files (hidden included) to
> the CF. BUT I can't seem to format the CF as a bootable drive (with
> MS-Dos of the correct version) The CF is more than large enough for
> win 98 and the programs I need on it. I won't need networking, just
> video display, usb support, sound support (onboard) and I guess it
> will need to support my built in card reader? all drivers that I
> should be able to get from my manufacturer before hand.
>
>
> secondly, would it be easier to run straight up MS-DOS without
> windows?
>
> any help would be appreciated. I have some technical experience
> dating back to x386 machines, just curious. or would it be simpler to
> just use an older PC?

there's a chance your dos apps won't work simply because of the much faster
cpu...rather than XP's emulated dos

you may want to try another dos emulator called: dos box

or a slowdown utility such as moslo
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John John

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:32 pm
Post subject: Re: any ideas on how to install an MS-DOS based windows version on [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hmmmm. Hard to reply to this. You can boot the OS from almost any
device that the BIOS supports. Where the Operating System resides is
another matter.

John

fish dong wrote:

> I got a neat new computer that does things none of my previous ones
> could, including booting from flash media. This may solve a problem
> of mine if I can figure it out. I have some old MS-DOS based programs
> I would like to still run, however I cannot get them to work in XP
> pro. Instead of using an older PC and having to have 2 computers I
> was wondering if anyone knows how it might be possible to install
> windows 95, 98, or 98SE on to a CF card. My first and main problem is
> finding a way to format the CF so it is bootable. I assume that worst
> comes to worse I can install the version of windows on my HD on a
> pre-setup partition and then transfer the files (hidden included) to
> the CF. BUT I can't seem to format the CF as a bootable drive (with
> MS-Dos of the correct version) The CF is more than large enough for
> win 98 and the programs I need on it. I won't need networking, just
> video display, usb support, sound support (onboard) and I guess it
> will need to support my built in card reader? all drivers that I
> should be able to get from my manufacturer before hand.
>
>
> secondly, would it be easier to run straight up MS-DOS without
> windows?
>
> any help would be appreciated. I have some technical experience
> dating back to x386 machines, just curious. or would it be simpler to
> just use an older PC?
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Mal_E

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Since: Feb 12, 2005
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:19 am
Post subject: Re: any ideas on how to install an MS-DOS based windows version on [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Try using a virtual pc. It should work fine then..

"John John" wrote:

> Hmmmm. Hard to reply to this. You can boot the OS from almost any
> device that the BIOS supports. Where the Operating System resides is
> another matter.
>
> John
>
> fish dong wrote:
>
> > I got a neat new computer that does things none of my previous ones
> > could, including booting from flash media. This may solve a problem
> > of mine if I can figure it out. I have some old MS-DOS based programs
> > I would like to still run, however I cannot get them to work in XP
> > pro. Instead of using an older PC and having to have 2 computers I
> > was wondering if anyone knows how it might be possible to install
> > windows 95, 98, or 98SE on to a CF card. My first and main problem is
> > finding a way to format the CF so it is bootable. I assume that worst
> > comes to worse I can install the version of windows on my HD on a
> > pre-setup partition and then transfer the files (hidden included) to
> > the CF. BUT I can't seem to format the CF as a bootable drive (with
> > MS-Dos of the correct version) The CF is more than large enough for
> > win 98 and the programs I need on it. I won't need networking, just
> > video display, usb support, sound support (onboard) and I guess it
> > will need to support my built in card reader? all drivers that I
> > should be able to get from my manufacturer before hand.
> >
> >
> > secondly, would it be easier to run straight up MS-DOS without
> > windows?
> >
> > any help would be appreciated. I have some technical experience
> > dating back to x386 machines, just curious. or would it be simpler to
> > just use an older PC?
>
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John John

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:18 pm
Post subject: Re: any ideas on how to install an MS-DOS based windows version on [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hmmmm. Is that Virtual PC a RAM resident thing? I kind of doubt that
DOS can communicate with flash devices, either to write to or call upon
and execute "unloaded" commands.

John

Mal_E wrote:

> Try using a virtual pc. It should work fine then..
>
> "John John" wrote:
>
>
>>Hmmmm. Hard to reply to this. You can boot the OS from almost any
>>device that the BIOS supports. Where the Operating System resides is
>>another matter.
>>
>>John
>>
>>fish dong wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I got a neat new computer that does things none of my previous ones
>>>could, including booting from flash media. This may solve a problem
>>>of mine if I can figure it out. I have some old MS-DOS based programs
>>>I would like to still run, however I cannot get them to work in XP
>>>pro. Instead of using an older PC and having to have 2 computers I
>>>was wondering if anyone knows how it might be possible to install
>>>windows 95, 98, or 98SE on to a CF card. My first and main problem is
>>>finding a way to format the CF so it is bootable. I assume that worst
>>>comes to worse I can install the version of windows on my HD on a
>>>pre-setup partition and then transfer the files (hidden included) to
>>>the CF. BUT I can't seem to format the CF as a bootable drive (with
>>>MS-Dos of the correct version) The CF is more than large enough for
>>>win 98 and the programs I need on it. I won't need networking, just
>>>video display, usb support, sound support (onboard) and I guess it
>>>will need to support my built in card reader? all drivers that I
>>>should be able to get from my manufacturer before hand.
>>>
>>>
>>>secondly, would it be easier to run straight up MS-DOS without
>>>windows?
>>>
>>>any help would be appreciated. I have some technical experience
>>>dating back to x386 machines, just curious. or would it be simpler to
>>>just use an older PC?
>>
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thunder2232

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Since: Mar 09, 2005
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:37 am
Post subject: Re: any ideas on how to install an MS-DOS based windows version on [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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If you use VMWare your virtual machine will see and connect to any device
that you have drivers for...

"John John" wrote:

> Hmmmm. Is that Virtual PC a RAM resident thing? I kind of doubt that
> DOS can communicate with flash devices, either to write to or call upon
> and execute "unloaded" commands.
>
> John
>
> Mal_E wrote:
>
> > Try using a virtual pc. It should work fine then..
> >
> > "John John" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hmmmm. Hard to reply to this. You can boot the OS from almost any
> >>device that the BIOS supports. Where the Operating System resides is
> >>another matter.
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>fish dong wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I got a neat new computer that does things none of my previous ones
> >>>could, including booting from flash media. This may solve a problem
> >>>of mine if I can figure it out. I have some old MS-DOS based programs
> >>>I would like to still run, however I cannot get them to work in XP
> >>>pro. Instead of using an older PC and having to have 2 computers I
> >>>was wondering if anyone knows how it might be possible to install
> >>>windows 95, 98, or 98SE on to a CF card. My first and main problem is
> >>>finding a way to format the CF so it is bootable. I assume that worst
> >>>comes to worse I can install the version of windows on my HD on a
> >>>pre-setup partition and then transfer the files (hidden included) to
> >>>the CF. BUT I can't seem to format the CF as a bootable drive (with
> >>>MS-Dos of the correct version) The CF is more than large enough for
> >>>win 98 and the programs I need on it. I won't need networking, just
> >>>video display, usb support, sound support (onboard) and I guess it
> >>>will need to support my built in card reader? all drivers that I
> >>>should be able to get from my manufacturer before hand.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>secondly, would it be easier to run straight up MS-DOS without
> >>>windows?
> >>>
> >>>any help would be appreciated. I have some technical experience
> >>>dating back to x386 machines, just curious. or would it be simpler to
> >>>just use an older PC?
> >>
>
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