(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:55 pm
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leads to a photo of modem and shows the wires etc.
1)computer number 1 (which the modem is on now) shows no more holes to plug into at the back.
2)computer number 2, has what looks like a modem card installed, but we figure that is no good to us
at all right now. computer 2 also has no holes to accept any network cables. (except for
the modem card we found,, we think.)
3)no network cards are installed on both... which i guess means dad has to buy two, one so
that computer 1 has a hole to use, and computer two has a hole to recieve..... does this sound
right?
4)are network cards cheap? will it take a whole lot of configuration to make it work?
if dad buys some cards, does he have to instal drivers and such?
i will leave it here for now, and hopefully get a reply before bedtime.
(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:55 pm
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 21:55:02 +1030, "k-bored" <justatest RemoveThis @test.tes>
wrote:
>hi again.
>
>http://www.virginbroadband.com.au/support/broadbandathome/Default.aspx
>
>leads to a photo of modem and shows the wires etc.
This "modem" is actually a wireless (nat) router with a single
ethernet port.
There are a number of options, but the best in my opinion is to get a
wireless USB network adaptor for pc2 to connect directly to the
"modem" wirelessly leaving the pc1 in its current configuration to use
the single ethernet port.
I got one of these a while back which I'm quite happy with
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/369188
You will then need to configure the wireless settings on the "modem"
using its web interface at http://192.168.1.1 and use those same
settings (passphrase etc) on pc2.
Of course you will have the added benefit of being able to locate pc2
away from pc1 and pc2 will not be dependent on pc1 for its Internet
connection.
A not nearly as good alternative using just wires would be to buy a
switch and a network adaptor for pc2. Then plug the switch into the
modem and the two pcs into the switch. This will allow both pc's to
connect independently of each other.
A third (the worst) alternative would be to put a network adaptor into
both pc1 and pc2, create a network bridge between the two network
adaptors on pc1 and connect the two pc's using a crossover cable as
discussed earlier.
(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:55 pm
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So your father is using some kind of mobilephone internet
connection, but specially designed to not be taken with you..
...so very strange! But I guess their pricemodel makes it cheaper
than just connect a 3G-mobilephone to the computer with usb?
Don't they have affordable real broadband there at australia?
to limit pear2pear to 32 kbit/s I guess they spy on all traffic
to detect if the user is using bittorrent, dc++ or some of the
twenty other most popular filesharing programs... but they
can't on the new encrypted ones I hope...
(or do they just mean that it is 32kbit/s OUT, just like the
old modems had 56kbit/s but only 33kbit/s OUT?)
Anyway, with all that radio I guess using wifi too won't make
a big difference... it is probably already turned on.
cheaper of course would be to use the neighbours.....
just a question, if your dads second computer don't have any
network jack at all, it must be very old, right? (I mean network
have been built in on almost all motherboards, even in prebuilt
computers, since pentium2 at least) and he is running winXP
on that?
must be very slow.....
..
..
..
> 2)computer number 2, has what looks like a modem card installed,but we
> figure that is no good to us at all right now.
save the modem in case you need to do some filesharing, since it
is faster
(and it is always nice to have a backup solution)
> 3)no network cards are installed on both... which i guess means dad has
> to buy two,
with your original idea that would have been true yes. perhaps we
should give up that idea....
> 4)are network cards cheap?
yes. they cost in my country 18AU$ (hastly converted to australian dollars
from my currency) a switch is allso cheap. a swithc with 5 jacks costs 28
AU$
here. compare to a network cable: 8 AU$ for 1 meter, 11 AU$ for 2 meter,
an usb wireless plug costs 40 AU$ here
This is of course not what they cost at your country, and it can be very
different depending on what shop or webshop you buy from, and witch model.
> if dad buys some cards, does he have to instal drivers and such?
yes. drivers for the network cards.
> i will leave it here for now, and hopefully get a reply before bedtime.
(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:08 am
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hi.......
boy, things just arent going right, right now..... anyway, must type this fast as i can because
it seems my computer is playing up,, especially in last day or so.
i got both posts, but am wondering what page you both went too? the link i gave, unbeknown to me,
didnt lead to where it should.... the bl&^**y page address for their home page is same as for the
one where i wanted you to go... and from what i read in posts here, it seems that wires are
getting crossed.. please click on link again, then click on ''connecting modem'',,, Then you
will see dads set-up.
know what,, i even posted a picture of it into a binary group, just so i could show you what i
mean, and i chose a group that was early in the list..... 'alt.binaries.allmanbrothers', because i
first went there to check if it was empty,, and it was.
but after my post went, and i did a refresh or two, it finally came through then was instantly
'crossed off'...... grrrrrrrrrr. seems my isp is accepting a photo post, but killing it at the
same time. i'll never understand isps.
then i went and looked using another server, and there it was..... (problem was,, it seems that
group is full of naughty stuff..... even though my isp said it was empty wehn i checked,,
if you go there, i posted it in last 24hrs or so, before my compuyter started playing up.. and the
post is called "to teebo and jim")
this is first time i've finally got back into this group,, trouble is, its now past midnight, and
this puppy is going to bed.
please look at photo whether you use the link or use the the newsgroup... because some of the
things said in what i read confused me. things about wirless phones, and wireless this and
wireless that... dad simply has a phone, and it now plugs into the modem, you'll see when you see
the photo/post.
(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:08 am
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:08:46 +1030, "k-bored" <justatest.TakeThisOut@test.tes>
wrote:
>know what,, i even posted a picture of it into a binary group, just so i could show you what i
>mean, and i chose a group that was early in the list..... 'alt.binaries.allmanbrothers', because i
>first went there to check if it was empty,, and it was.
Lol. You're not going to be very popular on usenet if you continue to
post off topic stuff like that into random binary newsgroups.
I already looked at all the pages. The phone plugs into what is
actually a wireless router so follow my instructions (and the detailed
instructions of your ISP) to create a wireless connection from pc2 to
the "modem". This is nothing to do with the phone. That's a separate
issue altogether.
Before you go out and buy anything, use Internet Explorer on the
existing PC1 to connect to http://192.168.1.1 This is the web
interface of the router. You will probably need a username and
password. Get these from your ISP if you don't already know what they
are.
Once in, have a look at the wireless configuration options and post
some details of the available options.
Steer clear of WEP it's totally insecure these days. Select WPA-PSK
with either AES or TKIP (aes preferred) and enter a passphrase.
Make a note of all your chosen settings because you will have to use
the same settings on PC2 once you invest in a wireless adaptor. If you
get a USB adaptor as I suggested you won't have to open up the box.
Just plug it in and run its installation program.
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