(Msg. 49) Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:16 am
Post subject: Re: PCR MEB.. I am Back. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>win98>gen_discussion (more info?)
square/circle wrote:
> Hi PCR,
>
> Phew, what a wonderful eventful last 2 hours I've had.. ha ha.
>
> Here is my latest good friend::
>
> 1)clock was stuffed
>
> 2)Avast didnt know who I was
I have 64 Registry keys that mention avast. I guess a lot of those would
be the same. A lot seems to be settings & MRU lists. Does it still show
v.1351 for you at...?...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ALWIL Software\Avast\4.0
I don't know; maybe an un/re-install of that is necessary. Except it's
going obsolete soon.
> 3)Internet connection didnt know who I was.
It must've been the password.
> 4)Desktop icons a mess
>
> 5)Certain drivers had to be installed by windows.. inc, modem.
That would be the scariest thing-- drivers!
> 6)Anything you can think of pcr that I might have missed??
Add/Remove Programs may be out of whack. It may not show stuff that has
been installed, & it may show stuff that already has been uninstalled. I
guess you can live with that. Some programs keep a database in the
Registry; for instance, IE keeps its list of blocked sites there.
"START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab" may also look different now. Your
START button menus may be different. I guess you can work through these
things as they come up. Check that your main stuff works right.
> 7)USB stick re-installed..(never told you that i got a new one
> about 2 months ago, and it supports 98... I didnt have to do a
> damn thing.. and was cheap tool.)
That sounds nice.
> 8)my 'ScanReg Auto' is back in my Msconfig startup..(hasnt been
> there for ages, and I didnt want to 'adjust' registry to fix it.. I
> followed a post that someone put in here about a year ago who had the
> same problem,, and the 'fix' was to mess with the registry, or merge
> something or other.. but I didnt want to do it.)
> I will probably lose my ability to go back two years because of it,
> but at least I now have a virus free computer.
See whether it's working now, per what I posted elsewhere. It should be.
To keep a real old one, just copy it out of SYSBCKUP. But I don't
approve keeping old ones! You should keep a full system backup instead!
> 9)Ooops,, forget the above, I just ran SpyBot and it picked up this::
> "ZLOB.DNSChanger"
> I did all of this while not connected to the internet, plus I went
> to the registry to do a Find on Zlob before I told SpyBot to 'fix'
> it;; this is what I found in the Registry.::
I wonder why SpyBot didn't detect this before you did the /Restore.
Anyhow, good it's gone! It makes me wonder whether you should restore
the replaced Registry or pursue the problems that come up as you are
doing.
> --------------
>
> HKey\CurrentUser\Software\PepiMK Software\RegAlyzer here it shows
> "zlob" nothing more
>
> HKey\Users\Software\PepiMK Software\RegAlyzer shows the same
As MEB said, PepiMK produces/sells SpyBot. Maybe these keys reflect
SpyBot has done its work. I guess RegAnalyser is part of SpyBot.
> -----------
>
> SpyBot shows it as
> Hkey_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\kdid
That must have been the offending entry. Follow the Google search I
posted elsewhere to see whether more must be done.
> ----------------
>
>
> RegAlyzer is just a third party version of 'regedit',, something I
> downloaded years ago when I thought I was going to be a smarty-bum
> technical computer guy/user. Anyhow, its not a problem, and if
> anything it may just have logged it.
Oh. OK.
> The 'KDID' seems to be the culprit, and SpyBot has fixed it.
>
> I am sort of at a loss as to what this 'zlob DNSChanger' is doing in
> my registry, as I have only been to Kerio sites in the last few days.
You retored an older Registry that had it. Maybe between then & now you
had run SpyBot & removed it once before?
> I have checked out the '.spop' and 'NpDocBox' thing, and it seems to
> be associated with Adobe. (I hate Adobe,, wish people wouldnt use it
> in their help files regarding their products... ) Anyway, that was
> the last one that we were both suspect about...... it was 012 in HJT.
All right.
> Damn,,,, there are two other things I wanted to talk to you about,
> but I just cant remember them right now.. but sure as heck, if I
> click send on the post, I will remember them 10 minutes later,, and I
> Know they are very important,, so expect another post soon.
I see you still haven't thought of them.
> Hey,, PCR, are we getting anywhere? ha ha. You have been a great
> person to bounce off,, my castle is your castle,, (I know in the
> movies they sort of say it like 'me casa se you casa' or something
> like that.)
Looks like progress is being made.
> S/C
>
> ps, now to check if this post gets sent, because I have not used the
> internet for at least 1/2 an hour... I'm either connected or I'm not.
Looks like it did. That's a hopeful sign that the Registry restore cure
the disconnectivity!
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net
(Msg. 50) Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Thanks Guys,,, Things are Good [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Just to let you both know.... there is 3 minutes left of my 5 hour
block,, and guess what, I'm still alive (internet that is).
(Msg. 51) Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:05 am
Post subject: Re: PCR MEB.. I am Back. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
And guess what PCR,, it was a malware thing from around the era of
2007,, at least that is what I found via a search.
Yet again, the registry roll-back has proved useful.
-------------------
> Verify that the connectivity problem is gone, right. That Google search
> will say how ZLOB did it, whether it were a file that started from a
> Registry call or simply a Registry setting that set a timeout or
> whatever.
No problem(s) at all friend, but as for understanding how Zlob did it, I
will leave that up to you,, (one day I will understand how to
understand, and I can tell you for sure that I am as keen as mustard.)
---------------
>> Just realised, I hadnt checked to see if my new Hosts file is still
>> there, and it is. (I wasnt sure if it may or may not have been since
>> the registry roll-back.)
> Nevertheless, ESPECIALLY IF it turns out the connectivity problem
> remains unresolved, it may be a good idea to restore the one you've
> replaced. Here (I believe) is what experimentation has shown me...
---------------
Oh but it has Resolved,, Cant tell you how happy I am that I can now
leave the computer for 4.50 hours and still come back to find another 10
minutes available.
--------------
> (1) "START button, Find, F/F, RB???.cab".
> Those are the Registry backups, in Sysbckup\. Are there five,
> plus an RBbad? Are the dates consistent with each of the last five
> days you've successfully boot? What is the date on RBBAD?
-------------
Yes, but in a slightly different manner.
Mine start from Rb000.cab through to Rb0004.cab followed by Rbbad.cab.
Either way, there are 5.
>
> (2) "START button, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt". Then...
> (a) CD C:\Windows\Sysbckup
> (b) DIR RB???.cab /od
> (c) Use the "Mark" button, outline text with mouse, "Copy" & post for
> inspection.
>
> Here was mine on 09-22-05...
>
> C:\>CD C:\Windows\Sysbckup
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP>dir rb???.cab /od /a
> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP
> RBBAD CAB 1,593,319 09-08-05 5:22p rbbad.cab
> RB001 CAB 1,590,251 09-18-05 3:34p rb001.cab
> RB002 CAB 1,589,811 09-19-05 9:15a rb002.cab
> RB003 CAB 1,583,534 09-20-05 8:53a rb003.cab
> RB004 CAB 1,583,487 09-21-05 10:01a rb004.cab
> RB005 CAB 1,583,477 09-22-05 11:54a rb005.cab
> 6 file(s) 9,523,879 bytes
--------------
Yes, but in a slightly different manner.
Mine start from Rb000.cab through to Rb0004.cab followed by Rbbad.cab.
Either way, there are 5. (Rb0004 is my 2007)
Btw, I read somewhere once that it was impossible to use a reg' backup
if it was really old,,,, did I just make an exception?
Um and Er.. I dont know if I should post this here or start another
thread so all can be helped and learn,, but, I am going to anyway
mainly because I know you will read this.
PCR, I have noticed something else that has happened with my computer in
the last few months, it relates to files in my C:Root directory and even
on my F:drive.... the files are called "File0000.chk" and count on up
to 10 then> (hex)> (c). In my C: there are now 13 of them,, and when
sending them to 'the gun or notepad', they seem to be noting places I
have been to...... each one having different information.
Do you know what they are? or why they are showing now after I have had
the computer for 5 years and never seen them before?
Should I start a new thread?
Is something logging my activity? If so, why? (putting aside the fact
that I murdered 76 people in 19 countries...... ha ha.!!)(the way my
bones are at the moment I can barely walk 19 paces, let alone 19
countries... chuckle.)
-------------
>> Lastly,, the computer 'seems' to be running even better than ever, it
>> seems to be running slicker and faster, which is quite a statement for
>> me as it was always fast anyway in regards to opening programs or even
>> booting up from a re-boot or a power-on start.
>
> Well, you may want to keep it, then, & pursue the fixes you've begun.
> But let us be certain the connectivity problem is gone. All the same,
> let's make a backup of your current Registry backups, since they are
> volatile in the SYSBCKUP folder. At a DOS Prompt...
-------------
To quote NED,,, "done diddly diddly done done done"
------------
This is more a courtesy post pcr,, I do admit to taking a break today,,
and the 'connectivity' problem is definately non existent anymore.
(Msg. 52) Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:05 am
Post subject: Re: PCR MEB.. I am Back. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
> I have 64 Registry keys that mention avast. I guess a lot of those would
> be the same. A lot seems to be settings & MRU lists. Does it still show
> v.1351 for you at...?...
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ALWIL Software\Avast\4.0
>
> I don't know; maybe an un/re-install of that is necessary. Except it's
> going obsolete soon.
--------------
Now for a Slap on the wrist for you..... SLAP!!!!
It isnt dead yet and there is still the chance it will go way into
2010,, maybe even closer to 2011
OPtimism PCR,, Optimism,,,,, dont send bad vibes, remember Karma.
-------------
I guess you can work through these
> things as they come up. Check that your main stuff works right.
>
>> 7)USB stick re-installed..(never told you that i got a new one
>> about 2 months ago, and it supports 98... I didnt have to do a
>> damn thing.. and was cheap too.)
>
> That sounds nice.
-------------
YES.... I was really happy when I got given it a few months ago,, was
just a matter of plug-n'-play,,,, and I can pull it out whenever I want,
same with plugging it in, doesnt affect anything at all, not even a
pop-up telling me I should use an exit program each time. (I will try to
buy a couple more of these when I get flush.)(hmmm, there is an entry in
Msconfig relating to a USB stick I had once before, I wonder if it
somehow picked up on the drivers for it and is using them??)(either way,
it works!! )
The only info I can give regarding it just in case you want one for your
own 98 system is this::
It is called "LASER" on the front, and on the back is:: N1968 and
PO11009". it is a 4GB stick. It was $20au.
-------------
> That must have been the offending entry. Follow the Google search I
> posted elsewhere to see whether more must be done.
(Msg. 53) Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:05 am
Post subject: Re: PCR MEB.. I am Back. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
> I think the BlitzenZeus ruleset & that HOSTS file is a better start for
> Kerio.
I have been all over the net in relation to "BlitzenZeus ruleset",,
have been to forums and downloads that claim to give it, but not one has
given me anything. (except one zipped file that seems to have a lot of
..gifs in it. )
Is there a direct link to get this file?
The one I got is::
BZKerio2xDefaultReplacementFinal.zip - ZIP archive, unpacked size 94,540
bytes.... is this it? (or should I take Item 2 from the other
site?)(the one that doesnt have the damn Micro blocks like before.)
I am going to have so much fun teaching others when I finally get this
resolved,,,
(Msg. 54) Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:05 pm
Post subject: Re: PCR MEB.. I am Back. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
square/circle wrote:
>> I think the BlitzenZeus ruleset & that HOSTS file is a better start
>> for Kerio.
>
>
> I have been all over the net in relation to "BlitzenZeus ruleset",,
> have been to forums and downloads that claim to give it, but not one
> has given me anything. (except one zipped file that seems to have a
> lot of .gifs in it. )
>
> Is there a direct link to get this file?
>
> The one I got is::
> BZKerio2xDefaultReplacementFinal.zip - ZIP archive, unpacked size
> 94,540 bytes.... is this it?
I posted the site above in this thread. Go read that one; it has more;
but...
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8023708
The final version states its correct size...
Directory of C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
BZKERI~1 ZIP 95,142 01-24-06 6:59p
BZKerio2xDefaultReplacementFinal.zip
Inside you find 2 .conf files & 2 .gif. Click the .gif to see what the
rules look like. Put the .conf's (& the .gif's too I guess) into...
C:\Program Files\Kerio\Personal Firewall
....or wherever you've installed Kerio. Then, switch to the .conf you
want through the Kerio tabs. Plug in your DNS as I posted above in this
thread. (I'm currently in communication with NetZero to see why my DNS
numbers have switched to Coretel numbers-- they want more information!)
> (or should I take Item 2 from the
> other site?)(the one that doesnt have the damn Micro blocks like
> before.)
You seem to have the right .zip, but possibly an older version or maybe
one for a different version of Kerio. Get the one for your version!
> I am going to have so much fun teaching others when I finally get this
> resolved,,,
Yea. OK.
> S/C
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net
(Msg. 55) Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:45 pm
Post subject: Re: PCR MEB.. I am Back. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
square/circle wrote:
>> I have 64 Registry keys that mention avast. I guess a lot of those
>> would be the same. A lot seems to be settings & MRU lists. Does it
>> still show v.1351 for you at...?...
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ALWIL Software\Avast\4.0
>>
>> I don't know; maybe an un/re-install of that is necessary. Except
>> it's going obsolete soon.
>
> --------------
>
> Now for a Slap on the wrist for you..... SLAP!!!!
> It isnt dead yet and there is still the chance it will go way into
> 2010,, maybe even closer to 2011
> OPtimism PCR,, Optimism,,,,, dont send bad vibes, remember Karma.
Huh? Oh, oh ... right ... optimism ... sure. But I didn't capitalize
your slap! Well, it may be worthwhile to un/re-install avast!, then, or
have it repair itself using Add/Remove Programs.
I wonder... do you get those horrible freezes with avast!, if/when you
click to open Explorer while avast! is auto-updating its definitions (as
shown by the circular, double arrow iAVS icon in the Tray)? It could
take up to 15 minutes the update to complete & things to get back to
perfectly normal! But I've learned to live with it. It also happens when
I type an URL into the Taskbar's address bar & hit then ENTER key!
> -------------
> I guess you can work through these
>> things as they come up. Check that your main stuff works right.
>>
>>> 7)USB stick re-installed..(never told you that i got a new one
>>> about 2 months ago, and it supports 98... I didnt have to do a
>>> damn thing.. and was cheap too.)
>>
>> That sounds nice.
>
> -------------
> YES.... I was really happy when I got given it a few months ago,, was
> just a matter of plug-n'-play,,,, and I can pull it out whenever I
> want, same with plugging it in, doesnt affect anything at all, not
> even a pop-up telling me I should use an exit program each time. (I
> will try to buy a couple more of these when I get flush.)(hmmm, there
> is an entry in Msconfig relating to a USB stick I had once before, I
> wonder if it somehow picked up on the drivers for it and is using
> them??)(either way, it works!! )
> The only info I can give regarding it just in case you want one for
> your own 98 system is this::
> It is called "LASER" on the front, and on the back is:: N1968 and
> PO11009". it is a 4GB stick. It was $20au.
> -------------
>
>> That must have been the offending entry. Follow the Google search I
>> posted elsewhere to see whether more must be done.
>
> --------------
> Yes...!
Very good. So far, so good-- not that I'm being pessimistic!
> ------------
>
> S/C
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net
(Msg. 56) Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:31 pm
Post subject: Re: PCR MEB.. I am Back. [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
square/circle wrote:
>>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=ZLOB.DNSChanger&btnG=Go...e+Searc >> Google has about 28,000 for ZLOB.DNSChanger.
>> I'll read through a few of those myself later.
>
> And guess what PCR,, it was a malware thing from around the era of
> 2007,, at least that is what I found via a search.
> Yet again, the registry roll-back has proved useful.
Very good. But when stuff like this happens, it's good to find a site
like...
http://home.mcafee.com/VirusInfo/
Plug in your virus/trojan & see whether SpyBot removed all the elements
of it. And removing the virus, itself, may not be all that needs to be
done. If the payload was released, could be the damage must be undone as
well. The site may say what to check for.
> -------------------
>
>> Verify that the connectivity problem is gone, right. That Google
>> search will say how ZLOB did it, whether it were a file that started
>> from a Registry call or simply a Registry setting that set a timeout
>> or whatever.
>
> No problem(s) at all friend, but as for understanding how Zlob did
> it, I will leave that up to you,, (one day I will understand how to
> understand, and I can tell you for sure that I am as keen as mustard.)
The computer that is hit with it is the one that must be examined for
the specific damage a virus/trojan may do. I think the main thing is
that your connectivity is restored. But just nose around for anything
else that ZLOB.DNSChanger or win32 Fraudloader might have done-- if
anything. What SpyBot did, didn't solve the connectivity problem.
Reverting the Registry solved it. But reverting the Registry doesn't
affect any files but System.dat, User.dat, System.ini, & User.ini (under
normal circumstances). Maybe there is yet a file somewhere that should
be deleted or repaired. Reverting the Registry probably prevents it from
starting, but it is still lying around somewhere, maybe. Do a big Google
search on those two badies!
> ---------------
>
>>> Just realised, I hadnt checked to see if my new Hosts file is still
>>> there, and it is. (I wasnt sure if it may or may not have been
>>> since the registry roll-back.)
>
>> Nevertheless, ESPECIALLY IF it turns out the connectivity problem
>> remains unresolved, it may be a good idea to restore the one you've
>> replaced. Here (I believe) is what experimentation has shown me...
> ---------------
>
> Oh but it has Resolved,, Cant tell you how happy I am that I can
> now leave the computer for 4.50 hours and still come back to find
> another 10 minutes available.
That's the main thing. Very good. Start that new thread on Kerio, after
you've read all can & worked up a plan.
> --------------
>
>> (1) "START button, Find, F/F, RB???.cab".
>> Those are the Registry backups, in Sysbckup\. Are there five,
>> plus an RBbad? Are the dates consistent with each of the last
>> five days you've successfully boot? What is the date on RBBAD?
>
> -------------
>
> Yes, but in a slightly different manner.
> Mine start from Rb000.cab through to Rb0004.cab followed by Rbbad.cab.
> Either way, there are 5.
Post yours as I showed you here...
>> (2) "START button, Programs, MS-DOS Prompt". Then...
>> (a) CD C:\Windows\Sysbckup
>> (b) DIR RB???.cab /od
>> (c) Use the "Mark" button, outline text with mouse, "Copy" & post
>> for inspection.
>>
>> Here was mine on 09-22-05...
>>
>> C:\>CD C:\Windows\Sysbckup
>> C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP>dir rb???.cab /od /a
>> Directory of C:\WINDOWS\SYSBCKUP
>> RBBAD CAB 1,593,319 09-08-05 5:22p rbbad.cab
>> RB001 CAB 1,590,251 09-18-05 3:34p rb001.cab
>> RB002 CAB 1,589,811 09-19-05 9:15a rb002.cab
>> RB003 CAB 1,583,534 09-20-05 8:53a rb003.cab
>> RB004 CAB 1,583,487 09-21-05 10:01a rb004.cab
>> RB005 CAB 1,583,477 09-22-05 11:54a rb005.cab
>> 6 file(s) 9,523,879 bytes
> --------------
> Yes, but in a slightly different manner.
> Mine start from Rb000.cab through to Rb0004.cab followed by Rbbad.cab.
> Either way, there are 5. (Rb0004 is my 2007)
Post them for examination. Does one have today's date? Then, it looks
like you are getting -- as you should -- at the 1st boot per day.
> Btw, I read somewhere once that it was impossible to use a reg' backup
> if it was really old,,,, did I just make an exception?
It isn't impossible. The five most recent ones that are in SYSBCKUP will
be offered by ScanReg /Restore. You have to get the older one into that
folder & move one of the other 5 out, because only 5 are offered. (RBBAD
is never offered, unless renamed with a number. Generally, you don't
want it.) It usually is not advisable to restore a very old one, because
it is out-of-sync with more recent settings, installs & uninstalls. But
I guess your circumstance was tough to solve otherwise.
> Um and Er.. I dont know if I should post this here or start another
> thread so all can be helped and learn,, but, I am going to anyway
> mainly because I know you will read this.
>
> PCR, I have noticed something else that has happened with my computer
> in the last few months, it relates to files in my C:Root directory
> and even on my F:drive.... the files are called "File0000.chk" and
> count on up to 10 then> (hex)> (c). In my C: there are now 13 of
> them,, and when sending them to 'the gun or notepad', they seem to
> be noting places I have been to...... each one having different
> information.
Those files are created by ScanDisk when it runs at startup after a
crash or a forced shutdown. They are really unusable now, except to look
at. Usually, they contain junk -- bits/pieces of temporary files that
were open at the time of the crash. They may have been temporary files
that your your browser or ISP were using. Have you been holding in the
computer start button for four seconds to force a shutdown? Are you
still crashing? The date of the files is the date of the reboot. What is
the most recent date?
> Do you know what they are? or why they are showing now after I have
> had the computer for 5 years and never seen them before?
> Should I start a new thread?
I'm not sure. Have you not looked? Possibly they have the Hidden or
System attribute (I haven't got one to look at right now. R-Clk, &
select Properties to see). Then, they wouldn't show up until you set
Folder Options to show them. I think you did that recently, IIRC. Start
a new thread only if you are still crashing-- which I very much doubt!
> Is something logging my activity? If so, why? (putting aside the
> fact that I murdered 76 people in 19 countries...... ha ha.!!)(the
> way my bones are at the moment I can barely walk 19 paces, let alone
> 19 countries... chuckle.)
Nope-- it wasn't any of that. And stay out of Italy!
> -------------
>
>>> Lastly,, the computer 'seems' to be running even better than ever,
>>> it seems to be running slicker and faster, which is quite a
>>> statement for me as it was always fast anyway in regards to opening
>>> programs or even booting up from a re-boot or a power-on start.
>>
>> Well, you may want to keep it, then, & pursue the fixes you've begun.
>> But let us be certain the connectivity problem is gone. All the same,
>> let's make a backup of your current Registry backups, since they are
>> volatile in the SYSBCKUP folder. At a DOS Prompt...
> -------------
>
> To quote NED,,, "done diddly diddly done done done"
OK. Remember to do it again just before you need to do a series of
/Restore, not that it comes up all that much. I think it is pretty
stupid that the act of restoring one destroys the oldest one in
SYSBCKUP. If you start restoring them from the most recent (which makes
the most sense)-- the bottom two are gone before you get there!
> ------------
> This is more a courtesy post pcr,, I do admit to taking a break
> today,, and the 'connectivity' problem is definately non existent
> anymore.
That's the most important thing.
> S/C
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net
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