Can only send brief messages

Though your second thread may appear to /you/ as being posted at 18:00 CDT,
20 Jul-08, it doesn't necessarily show time for all of us.

If the behavior's not fixed now, chances are your latest identity is now
corrupt, too.

General OE Caveats to avoid such problems:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and
do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
Automatic Compacting is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional protection,
and even Symantec says it's not necessary:

<QP>
Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions.
</QP>
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106

If it happens *again*, stick to webmail, d00d.

SG wrote:
> MY 1800 post is the OTHER thread you are complaining about.
>
>> Did you do both of the above (yet)?
> Yes
>
>> What's your "1800 post"?
>>
>>>> => OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [SONIC] | Properties | Advanced | Break
>>>> apart... (uncheck).
>>>>
>>>> => Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application
>>
>> Did you do both of the above (yet)?
>>
>>> Sorry about the two thread thing but this thread is following a post
>>> that
>>> doesn't contain all the information I posted in the other one. This
>>> thread
>>> was posted by error before I completed and reviewed my words.
>>> I will now stick to this thread but remember more descriptive info in my
>>> 1800 post.
>>>
>>> It's back= it occurred a few times and was worked around by generating
>>> new
>>> identity - getting tired of generating new identities, hoping to fix
>>> root
>>> cause.
>>>
>>>> Please stick to one (1) thread.
>>>>
>>>> Whaddya mean, "It's BACK"??
>>>>
>>>> <QP>
>>>> "A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. Subject 'Fw:
>>>> Union
>>>> Rules', Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server: 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol:
>>>> SMTP,
>>>> Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC19"
>>>> </QP>
>>>>
>>>> Troubleshooting error messages that you receive when you are using OL
>>>> and OE
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813514
>>>>
>>>> => OE Tools | Accounts | Mail | [SONIC] | Properties | Advanced | Break
>>>> apart... (uncheck).
>>>>
>>>> => Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application...
>>>>
>>>>> IT'S BACK!
>>>>> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending
>>>>> $150
>>>>> modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
>>>>> identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
>>>>> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
>>>>> keep
>>>>> it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
>>>>> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I
>>>>> get
>>>>> error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP
>>>>> to
>>>>> drop the xfer

Thanks for your help this time and previous on same issue.
PA Bear--Bruce

I just spent hours researching this problem from previous occurrences as
well as around the web and what I come up with as FACTS are:
1. that it is caused by being disconnected due to a 10053 socket error.
2, It ONLY happens in outlook express, not in webmail or outlook.
Given this I cannot place blame on my ISP-virus program (Avast)- nor
anywhere other than IE. Unfortunately though many others have the problem,
no one seems to have the fix.other than coding changes in their custom
programs to slightly delay the sending of the next outgoing burst after
previous was acknowledged.
Switching to outlook soon.
SG

"SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
news:ON3T2ns6IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> IT'S BACK!
> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending $150
> modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
> identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
> keep it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I get
> error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP to
> drop the xfer
>

The error message you posted in your *1800* thread never mentioned a 10053
socket error. Did you post the complete error message, or has it changed?
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
news:u8wgyh56IHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for your help this time and previous on same issue.
> PA Bear--Bruce
>
> I just spent hours researching this problem from previous occurrences as
> well as around the web and what I come up with as FACTS are:
> 1. that it is caused by being disconnected due to a 10053 socket error.
> 2, It ONLY happens in outlook express, not in webmail or outlook.
> Given this I cannot place blame on my ISP-virus program (Avast)- nor
> anywhere other than IE. Unfortunately though many others have the problem,
> no one seems to have the fix.other than coding changes in their custom
> programs to slightly delay the sending of the next outgoing burst after
> previous was acknowledged.
> Switching to outlook soon.
> SG
>
> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
> news:ON3T2ns6IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> IT'S BACK!
>> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending $150
>> modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
>> identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
>> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
>> keep it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
>> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I get
>> error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP to
>> drop the xfer
>>
>
>

Good observation. I had not noticed that in later looks at error. That was a
complete cut and paste but now I AM seeing 10053 socket error--error nr
0x800cccdf
SG
"Bruce Hagen" <Nospam DeleteThis @mymail.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23jK0mn56IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> The error message you posted in your *1800* thread never mentioned a 10053
> socket error. Did you post the complete error message, or has it changed?
> --
>
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
> news:u8wgyh56IHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for your help this time and previous on same issue.
>> PA Bear--Bruce
>>
>> I just spent hours researching this problem from previous occurrences as
>> well as around the web and what I come up with as FACTS are:
>> 1. that it is caused by being disconnected due to a 10053 socket error.
>> 2, It ONLY happens in outlook express, not in webmail or outlook.
>> Given this I cannot place blame on my ISP-virus program (Avast)- nor
>> anywhere other than IE. Unfortunately though many others have the
>> problem, no one seems to have the fix.other than coding changes in their
>> custom programs to slightly delay the sending of the next outgoing burst
>> after previous was acknowledged.
>> Switching to outlook soon.
>> SG
>>
>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
>> news:ON3T2ns6IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> IT'S BACK!
>>> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending $150
>>> modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
>>> identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
>>> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
>>> keep it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
>>> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I get
>>> error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP to
>>> drop the xfer
>>>
>>
>>
>

Sure the error number is not 0x800cccof?

Not wanting to read every post, did you ever remove Avast and reinstall in
Custom mode? Choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection,
Uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.

Just because e-mail scanning doesn't affect MS Outlook, it can still affect
OE. And Webmail is a completely different animal. That should always work.
--

Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA



"SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
news:u9e83R66IHA.1120@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Good observation. I had not noticed that in later looks at error. That was
> a complete cut and paste but now I AM seeing 10053 socket error--error nr
> 0x800cccdf
> SG
> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam DeleteThis @mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23jK0mn56IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> The error message you posted in your *1800* thread never mentioned a
>> 10053 socket error. Did you post the complete error message, or has it
>> changed?
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
>> news:u8wgyh56IHA.5024@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks for your help this time and previous on same issue.
>>> PA Bear--Bruce
>>>
>>> I just spent hours researching this problem from previous occurrences as
>>> well as around the web and what I come up with as FACTS are:
>>> 1. that it is caused by being disconnected due to a 10053 socket error.
>>> 2, It ONLY happens in outlook express, not in webmail or outlook.
>>> Given this I cannot place blame on my ISP-virus program (Avast)- nor
>>> anywhere other than IE. Unfortunately though many others have the
>>> problem, no one seems to have the fix.other than coding changes in their
>>> custom programs to slightly delay the sending of the next outgoing burst
>>> after previous was acknowledged.
>>> Switching to outlook soon.
>>> SG
>>>
>>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
>>> news:ON3T2ns6IHA.1468@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> IT'S BACK!
>>>> I had this problem months ago without finding a cause but spending $150
>>>> modem-phone call & house call. I did find a workaround, create a new
>>>> identity, but its a big hassle Moving messages rules, etc.
>>>> I have a fast system with 1GB mem and about 30GB free on HD. routinely
>>>> keep it clean with Spy-bot and others as well as defraging and such.
>>>> Problem: when I send email of over about 200k it doesn't get out. I get
>>>> error that there was a system delay or other cause that caused my ISP
>>>> to drop the xfer
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

I'm sure the folks in Outlook General will value the contributions you will
be making.

SG wrote:
> Thanks for your help this time and previous on same issue.
> PA Bear--Bruce
>
> I just spent hours researching this problem from previous occurrences as
> well as around the web and what I come up with as FACTS are:
> 1. that it is caused by being disconnected due to a 10053 socket error.
> 2, It ONLY happens in outlook express, not in webmail or outlook.
> Given this I cannot place blame on my ISP-virus program (Avast)- nor
> anywhere other than IE. Unfortunately though many others have the problem,
> no one seems to have the fix.other than coding changes in their custom
> programs to slightly delay the sending of the next outgoing burst after
> previous was acknowledged.
> Switching to outlook soon.
<snip>