Can only send brief messages

Sorry Tom, it doesn't.
Its a long thread with many suggestions but no results. It is also not the
first time I have troubleshot this problem, see my initial post.
SG
"Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom.RemoveThis@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
news:OgUqT1a7IHA.1080@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Read PA Bear's post again. It tells you.
>
> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
> news:uLAnYsa7IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> :I AGREE So please tell me what is breaking them and how to prevent
> it?
> : SG
> : "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> : news:eE8hMVS7IHA.3672@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : > User-created identity's do NOT break of their own accord.
> : >
> : > Repost:
> : >> If the behavior's not fixed now, chances are your latest identity is
> now
> : >> corrupt, too.
> : >>
> : >> General OE Caveats to avoid such problems:
> : >>
> : >> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to
> local
> : >> folders created for this purpose.
> : >>
> : >> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
> : >>
> : >> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
> : >> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
> More
> : >> at
> : >> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
> : >>
> : >> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it
> occur,
> : >> and
> : >> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine
> if
> : >> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
> : >>
> : >> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can
> cause
> : >> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional
> : >> protection,
> : >> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
> : >>
> : >> <QP>
> : >> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against
> viruses
> : >> that
> : >> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
> scans
> : >> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email
> and
> : >> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of
> this.
> : >> To
> : >> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
> : >> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you
> have
> : >> the most recent virus definitions.
> : >> </QP>
> : >> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
> : >>
> : >> If it happens *again*, stick to webmail, d00d.
> : >
> : > Source:
> : >
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.i...outlook
> : >
> : >
> : > SG wrote:
> : >> Creating a new identity has always fixed it and probably would again
> as
> : >> mentioned in original post. They seem to work for a few days or a few
> : >> weeks
> : >> then fail in this manor again
> : >> HOWEVER
> : >> I have generated about seven in past two months to get past this
> problem
> : >> and
> : >> that's a lot of work with moving messages, moving address book, and
> : >> reestablishing newsgroups. Plus in my rush generating them to get a
> post
> : >> out I have lost some old messages thru carelessness. I really need a
> FIX
> : >> or
> : >> a CAUSE not a workaround.
> : >> Again thanks
> : >> SG
> : >> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam.RemoveThis@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> : >> news:OfPPpNQ7IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : >>> Just to eliminate some things, create a new identity and test it.
> Any
> : >>> difference?
> : >>>
> : >>> BTW. I use Avast (free) myself and you /can/ install it in custom
> mode,
> : >>> although it may be called something else. I don't recall for sure.
> : >>> --
> : >>>
> : >>> Bruce Hagen
> : >>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> : >>> Imperial Beach, CA
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
> : >>> news:eY%23PtHQ7IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> : >>>> If this is any help I notice that sending 50-100k files they seem
> to
> : >>>> go
> : >>>> out in many brief bursts rather than one smooth uninterrupted
> message.
> : >>>> Maybe 2,3 ,5 one second pauses. Could I have a buffer problem
> : >>>> somewhere?
> : >>>> SG
> : >>>>
> : >>>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
> : >>>> news:uTIDM0P7IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : >>>>> I would never send a picture of that size, I am only doing for
> testing
> : >>>>> this problem.
> : >>>>> GREAT ISP : Sonic reply to size question
> : >>>>> "The maximum allowed size that can be sent is 20mb. If your
> Outlook
> : >>>>> Express is till breaking the messages up at a smaller size then we
> : >>>>> should check a setting here. Go to Tools -> Accounts. Click on the
> : >>>>> Mail
> : >>>>> tab, select the sonic.net email account then click properties. In
> this
> : >>>>> screen click on the Advanced tab. Check the Sending option
> ensuring
> : >>>>> that
> : >>>>> "Break apart messages larger than" is NOT checked.
> : >>>>>
> : >>>>> Hope this helps. Thanks for choosing Sonic.net!
> : >>>>>
> : >>>>> SG
> : >>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> : >>>>> news:e4PXXVO7IHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> : >>>>>>> To reconfirm all I just attempted to send a 3 meg picture file
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>> With default mark-up, a 3MB attachment to a, e.g., 10KB message
> : >>>>>> becomes
> : >>>>>> a ~4.1MB email! Most ISPs limit the size of an email to 2MB (and
> : >>>>>> usually much lower than that).
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>> That's like trying to send a '77 Caddy in a shoe box via
> snail-mail,
> : >>>>>> SG. Either resize the pic (considerably) or use other methods to
> send
> : >>>>>> such a large file (e.g., FTP or CD sent via snail-mail).
> : >>>>>> --
> : >>>>>> ~PA Bear
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>> SG wrote:
> : >>>>>> <snip>
> : >>>>>>> To reconfirm all I just attempted to send a 3 meg picture file
> : >>>>>>>
> : >>>>>>> modem shows no data at all indicated being sent.
> : >>>>>>>
> : >>>>>>> Then receive message after about 2 minutes
> : >>>>>>>
> : >>>>>>> A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. Subject
> : >>>>>>> 'TEST',
> : >>>>>>> Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server: 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol:
> SMTP,
> : >>>>>>> Port:
> : >>>>>>> 25, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCC19
> : >>>>>>>
> : >>>>>>> next part of same message asks if I want to wait longer - I
> reply
> no
> : >>>>>>>
> : >>>>>>> About 1 minute later another message comes in
> : >>>>>>>
> : >>>>>>> Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible
> : >>>>>>> causes for
> : >>>>>>> this include server problems, network problems, or a long period
> of
> : >>>>>>> inactivity. Subject 'TEST', Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server:
> : >>>>>>> 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): Yes,
> Socket
> : >>>>>>> Error:
> : >>>>>>> 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
> : >>>>>> <snip>
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

From outlook express help.

Look at index, choose 'breaking up large messages' or 'sending large
messages'

To send large messages

Many mail and news servers limit the size of the messages you can receive
and send. Usually this limit is one megabyte (1 MB) per message, including
all attached files.

With Outlook Express, however, you can send large messages or files to mail
and news servers that have size limits by breaking the messages into smaller
ones. When the group of messages is received, the mail program recombines
them into one message.


On the Tools menu, click Accounts.

On either the Mail or News tab, click Properties.

On the Advanced tab, select the Break apart messages larger than x KB check
box and then enter the maximum file size the server will allow.

"SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
news:%23PmnVbb7IHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| Sorry Tom, it doesn't.
| Its a long thread with many suggestions but no results. It is also not the
| first time I have troubleshot this problem, see my initial post.
| SG
| "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom RemoveThis @youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
| news:OgUqT1a7IHA.1080@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > Read PA Bear's post again. It tells you.
| >
| > "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
| > news:uLAnYsa7IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > :I AGREE So please tell me what is breaking them and how to prevent
| > it?
| > : SG
| > : "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
| > : news:eE8hMVS7IHA.3672@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > : > User-created identity's do NOT break of their own accord.
| > : >
| > : > Repost:
| > : >> If the behavior's not fixed now, chances are your latest identity
is
| > now
| > : >> corrupt, too.
| > : >>
| > : >> General OE Caveats to avoid such problems:
| > : >>
| > : >> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to
| > local
| > : >> folders created for this purpose.
| > : >>
| > : >> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
| > : >>
| > : >> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and
frequently
| > : >> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
| > More
| > : >> at
| > : >> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
| > : >>
| > : >> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it
| > occur,
| > : >> and
| > : >> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your
machine
| > if
| > : >> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
| > : >>
| > : >> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can
| > cause
| > : >> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional
| > : >> protection,
| > : >> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
| > : >>
| > : >> <QP>
| > : >> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against
| > viruses
| > : >> that
| > : >> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
| > scans
| > : >> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including
email
| > and
| > : >> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of
| > this.
| > : >> To
| > : >> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection,
keep
| > : >> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that
you
| > have
| > : >> the most recent virus definitions.
| > : >> </QP>
| > : >> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
| > : >>
| > : >> If it happens *again*, stick to webmail, d00d.
| > : >
| > : > Source:
| > : >
| >
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.i...outlook
| > : >
| > : >
| > : > SG wrote:
| > : >> Creating a new identity has always fixed it and probably would
again
| > as
| > : >> mentioned in original post. They seem to work for a few days or a
few
| > : >> weeks
| > : >> then fail in this manor again
| > : >> HOWEVER
| > : >> I have generated about seven in past two months to get past this
| > problem
| > : >> and
| > : >> that's a lot of work with moving messages, moving address book, and
| > : >> reestablishing newsgroups. Plus in my rush generating them to get
a
| > post
| > : >> out I have lost some old messages thru carelessness. I really need
a
| > FIX
| > : >> or
| > : >> a CAUSE not a workaround.
| > : >> Again thanks
| > : >> SG
| > : >> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam RemoveThis @mymail.invalid> wrote in message
| > : >> news:OfPPpNQ7IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > : >>> Just to eliminate some things, create a new identity and test it.
| > Any
| > : >>> difference?
| > : >>>
| > : >>> BTW. I use Avast (free) myself and you /can/ install it in custom
| > mode,
| > : >>> although it may be called something else. I don't recall for sure.
| > : >>> --
| > : >>>
| > : >>> Bruce Hagen
| > : >>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
| > : >>> Imperial Beach, CA
| > : >>>
| > : >>>
| > : >>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
| > : >>> news:eY%23PtHQ7IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| > : >>>> If this is any help I notice that sending 50-100k files they
seem
| > to
| > : >>>> go
| > : >>>> out in many brief bursts rather than one smooth uninterrupted
| > message.
| > : >>>> Maybe 2,3 ,5 one second pauses. Could I have a buffer problem
| > : >>>> somewhere?
| > : >>>> SG
| > : >>>>
| > : >>>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
| > : >>>> news:uTIDM0P7IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > : >>>>> I would never send a picture of that size, I am only doing for
| > testing
| > : >>>>> this problem.
| > : >>>>> GREAT ISP : Sonic reply to size question
| > : >>>>> "The maximum allowed size that can be sent is 20mb. If your
| > Outlook
| > : >>>>> Express is till breaking the messages up at a smaller size then
we
| > : >>>>> should check a setting here. Go to Tools -> Accounts. Click on
the
| > : >>>>> Mail
| > : >>>>> tab, select the sonic.net email account then click properties.
In
| > this
| > : >>>>> screen click on the Advanced tab. Check the Sending option
| > ensuring
| > : >>>>> that
| > : >>>>> "Break apart messages larger than" is NOT checked.
| > : >>>>>
| > : >>>>> Hope this helps. Thanks for choosing Sonic.net!
| > : >>>>>
| > : >>>>> SG
| > : >>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
| > : >>>>> news:e4PXXVO7IHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| > : >>>>>>> To reconfirm all I just attempted to send a 3 meg picture file
| > : >>>>>>
| > : >>>>>> With default mark-up, a 3MB attachment to a, e.g., 10KB message
| > : >>>>>> becomes
| > : >>>>>> a ~4.1MB email! Most ISPs limit the size of an email to 2MB
(and
| > : >>>>>> usually much lower than that).
| > : >>>>>>
| > : >>>>>> That's like trying to send a '77 Caddy in a shoe box via
| > snail-mail,
| > : >>>>>> SG. Either resize the pic (considerably) or use other methods
to
| > send
| > : >>>>>> such a large file (e.g., FTP or CD sent via snail-mail).
| > : >>>>>> --
| > : >>>>>> ~PA Bear
| > : >>>>>>
| > : >>>>>>
| > : >>>>>> SG wrote:
| > : >>>>>> <snip>
| > : >>>>>>> To reconfirm all I just attempted to send a 3 meg picture file
| > : >>>>>>>
| > : >>>>>>> modem shows no data at all indicated being sent.
| > : >>>>>>>
| > : >>>>>>> Then receive message after about 2 minutes
| > : >>>>>>>
| > : >>>>>>> A time-out occurred while communicating with the server.
Subject
| > : >>>>>>> 'TEST',
| > : >>>>>>> Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server: 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol:
| > SMTP,
| > : >>>>>>> Port:
| > : >>>>>>> 25, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCC19
| > : >>>>>>>
| > : >>>>>>> next part of same message asks if I want to wait longer - I
| > reply
| > no
| > : >>>>>>>
| > : >>>>>>> About 1 minute later another message comes in
| > : >>>>>>>
| > : >>>>>>> Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection.
Possible
| > : >>>>>>> causes for
| > : >>>>>>> this include server problems, network problems, or a long
period
| > of
| > : >>>>>>> inactivity. Subject 'TEST', Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server:
| > : >>>>>>> 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): Yes,
| > Socket
| > : >>>>>>> Error:
| > : >>>>>>> 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
| > : >>>>>> <snip>
| > : >
| > :
| > :
| >
| >
|
|

From my ISP, posted earlier
Sonic reply to size question
>>> "The maximum allowed size that can be sent is 20mb. If your Outlook
>>> Express is till breaking the messages up at a smaller size then we
>>> should check a setting here. Go to Tools -> Accounts. Click on the Mail
>>> tab, select the sonic.net email account then click properties. In this
>>> screen click on the Advanced tab. Check the Sending option ensuring that
>>> "Break apart messages larger than" is NOT checked.

SG

"Ken" <PleaseReply.RemoveThis@NewsGroup.Thanks> wrote in message
news:%23oUCv%23b7IHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> From outlook express help.
>
> Look at index, choose 'breaking up large messages' or 'sending large
> messages'
>
> To send large messages
>
> Many mail and news servers limit the size of the messages you can receive
> and send. Usually this limit is one megabyte (1 MB) per message, including
> all attached files.
>
> With Outlook Express, however, you can send large messages or files to
> mail
> and news servers that have size limits by breaking the messages into
> smaller
> ones. When the group of messages is received, the mail program recombines
> them into one message.
>
>
> On the Tools menu, click Accounts.
>
> On either the Mail or News tab, click Properties.
>
> On the Advanced tab, select the Break apart messages larger than x KB
> check
> box and then enter the maximum file size the server will allow.
>
> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
> news:%23PmnVbb7IHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | Sorry Tom, it doesn't.
> | Its a long thread with many suggestions but no results. It is also not
> the
> | first time I have troubleshot this problem, see my initial post.
> | SG
> | "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <tom.RemoveThis@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
> | news:OgUqT1a7IHA.1080@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > Read PA Bear's post again. It tells you.
> | >
> | > "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
> | > news:uLAnYsa7IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > :I AGREE So please tell me what is breaking them and how to
> prevent
> | > it?
> | > : SG
> | > : "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> | > : news:eE8hMVS7IHA.3672@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > : > User-created identity's do NOT break of their own accord.
> | > : >
> | > : > Repost:
> | > : >> If the behavior's not fixed now, chances are your latest identity
> is
> | > now
> | > : >> corrupt, too.
> | > : >>
> | > : >> General OE Caveats to avoid such problems:
> | > : >>
> | > : >> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them
> to
> | > local
> | > : >> folders created for this purpose.
> | > : >>
> | > : >> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
> | > : >>
> | > : >> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and
> frequently
> | > : >> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
> offline".
> | > More
> | > : >> at
> | > : >> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
> | > : >>
> | > : >> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it
> | > occur,
> | > : >> and
> | > : >> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your
> machine
> | > if
> | > : >> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
> | > : >>
> | > : >> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can
> | > cause
> | > : >> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional
> | > : >> protection,
> | > : >> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
> | > : >>
> | > : >> <QP>
> | > : >> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against
> | > viruses
> | > : >> that
> | > : >> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus
> Auto-Protect
> | > scans
> | > : >> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including
> email
> | > and
> | > : >> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of
> | > this.
> | > : >> To
> | > : >> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection,
> keep
> | > : >> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that
> you
> | > have
> | > : >> the most recent virus definitions.
> | > : >> </QP>
> | > : >>
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
> | > : >>
> | > : >> If it happens *again*, stick to webmail, d00d.
> | > : >
> | > : > Source:
> | > : >
> | >
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.i...outlook
> | > : >
> | > : >
> | > : > SG wrote:
> | > : >> Creating a new identity has always fixed it and probably would
> again
> | > as
> | > : >> mentioned in original post. They seem to work for a few days or a
> few
> | > : >> weeks
> | > : >> then fail in this manor again
> | > : >> HOWEVER
> | > : >> I have generated about seven in past two months to get past this
> | > problem
> | > : >> and
> | > : >> that's a lot of work with moving messages, moving address book,
> and
> | > : >> reestablishing newsgroups. Plus in my rush generating them to
> get
> a
> | > post
> | > : >> out I have lost some old messages thru carelessness. I really
> need
> a
> | > FIX
> | > : >> or
> | > : >> a CAUSE not a workaround.
> | > : >> Again thanks
> | > : >> SG
> | > : >> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam.RemoveThis@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
> | > : >> news:OfPPpNQ7IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > : >>> Just to eliminate some things, create a new identity and test
> it.
> | > Any
> | > : >>> difference?
> | > : >>>
> | > : >>> BTW. I use Avast (free) myself and you /can/ install it in
> custom
> | > mode,
> | > : >>> although it may be called something else. I don't recall for
> sure.
> | > : >>> --
> | > : >>>
> | > : >>> Bruce Hagen
> | > : >>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
> | > : >>> Imperial Beach, CA
> | > : >>>
> | > : >>>
> | > : >>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
> | > : >>> news:eY%23PtHQ7IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> | > : >>>> If this is any help I notice that sending 50-100k files they
> seem
> | > to
> | > : >>>> go
> | > : >>>> out in many brief bursts rather than one smooth uninterrupted
> | > message.
> | > : >>>> Maybe 2,3 ,5 one second pauses. Could I have a buffer problem
> | > : >>>> somewhere?
> | > : >>>> SG
> | > : >>>>
> | > : >>>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
> | > : >>>> news:uTIDM0P7IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > : >>>>> I would never send a picture of that size, I am only doing for
> | > testing
> | > : >>>>> this problem.
> | > : >>>>> GREAT ISP : Sonic reply to size question
> | > : >>>>> "The maximum allowed size that can be sent is 20mb. If your
> | > Outlook
> | > : >>>>> Express is till breaking the messages up at a smaller size
> then
> we
> | > : >>>>> should check a setting here. Go to Tools -> Accounts. Click on
> the
> | > : >>>>> Mail
> | > : >>>>> tab, select the sonic.net email account then click properties.
> In
> | > this
> | > : >>>>> screen click on the Advanced tab. Check the Sending option
> | > ensuring
> | > : >>>>> that
> | > : >>>>> "Break apart messages larger than" is NOT checked.
> | > : >>>>>
> | > : >>>>> Hope this helps. Thanks for choosing Sonic.net!
> | > : >>>>>
> | > : >>>>> SG
> | > : >>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> | > : >>>>> news:e4PXXVO7IHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> | > : >>>>>>> To reconfirm all I just attempted to send a 3 meg picture
> file
> | > : >>>>>>
> | > : >>>>>> With default mark-up, a 3MB attachment to a, e.g., 10KB
> message
> | > : >>>>>> becomes
> | > : >>>>>> a ~4.1MB email! Most ISPs limit the size of an email to 2MB
> (and
> | > : >>>>>> usually much lower than that).
> | > : >>>>>>
> | > : >>>>>> That's like trying to send a '77 Caddy in a shoe box via
> | > snail-mail,
> | > : >>>>>> SG. Either resize the pic (considerably) or use other methods
> to
> | > send
> | > : >>>>>> such a large file (e.g., FTP or CD sent via snail-mail).
> | > : >>>>>> --
> | > : >>>>>> ~PA Bear
> | > : >>>>>>
> | > : >>>>>>
> | > : >>>>>> SG wrote:
> | > : >>>>>> <snip>
> | > : >>>>>>> To reconfirm all I just attempted to send a 3 meg picture
> file
> | > : >>>>>>>
> | > : >>>>>>> modem shows no data at all indicated being sent.
> | > : >>>>>>>
> | > : >>>>>>> Then receive message after about 2 minutes
> | > : >>>>>>>
> | > : >>>>>>> A time-out occurred while communicating with the server.
> Subject
> | > : >>>>>>> 'TEST',
> | > : >>>>>>> Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server: 'MAIL.SONIC.NET',
> Protocol:
> | > SMTP,
> | > : >>>>>>> Port:
> | > : >>>>>>> 25, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCC19
> | > : >>>>>>>
> | > : >>>>>>> next part of same message asks if I want to wait longer - I
> | > reply
> | > no
> | > : >>>>>>>
> | > : >>>>>>> About 1 minute later another message comes in
> | > : >>>>>>>
> | > : >>>>>>> Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection.
> Possible
> | > : >>>>>>> causes for
> | > : >>>>>>> this include server problems, network problems, or a long
> period
> | > of
> | > : >>>>>>> inactivity. Subject 'TEST', Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET',
> Server:
> | > : >>>>>>> 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL):
> Yes,
> | > Socket
> | > : >>>>>>> Error:
> | > : >>>>>>> 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
> | > : >>>>>> <snip>
> | > : >
> | > :
> | > :
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>

If you strictly adhere to all of the Caveats I've posted (at least twice in
this thread), you should NOT encounter corruption. If you do, something's
funky with your install of WinXP (not OE) and you'd need to do a format &
reinstall (not a Repair Install).

NB: Do NOT rename the MAIN IDENTITY, create a new one. To avoid any
confusion, do not use the word MAIN in the name of any user-created
identities.
--
~PA Bear


SG wrote:
> I AGREE. So please tell me what is breaking them and how to prevent it?
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eE8hMVS7IHA.3672@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> User-created identity's do NOT break of their own accord.
>>
>> Repost:
>>> If the behavior's not fixed now, chances are your latest identity is now
>>> corrupt, too.
>>>
>>> General OE Caveats to avoid such problems:
>>>
>>> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
>>> folders created for this purpose.
>>>
>>> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>>>
>>> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
>>> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
>>> More
>>> at
>>> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>>>
>>> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur,
>>> and
>>> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
>>> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
>>>
>>> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
>>> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional
>>> protection,
>>> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>>>
>>> <QP>
>>> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
>>> that
>>> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
>>> scans
>>> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
>>> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
>>> To
>>> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
>>> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you
>>> have
>>> the most recent virus definitions.
>>> </QP>
>>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
>>>
>>> If it happens *again*, stick to webmail, d00d.
>>
>> Source:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.i...outlook
>>
>>
>> SG wrote:
>>> Creating a new identity has always fixed it and probably would again as
>>> mentioned in original post. They seem to work for a few days or a few
>>> weeks
>>> then fail in this manor again
>>> HOWEVER
>>> I have generated about seven in past two months to get past this problem
>>> and
>>> that's a lot of work with moving messages, moving address book, and
>>> reestablishing newsgroups. Plus in my rush generating them to get a
>>> post
>>> out I have lost some old messages thru carelessness. I really need a FIX
>>> or
>>> a CAUSE not a workaround.
>>> Again thanks
>>> SG
>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam.DeleteThis@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:OfPPpNQ7IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Just to eliminate some things, create a new identity and test it. Any
>>>> difference?
>>>>
>>>> BTW. I use Avast (free) myself and you /can/ install it in custom mode,
>>>> although it may be called something else. I don't recall for sure.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
>>>> news:eY%23PtHQ7IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> If this is any help I notice that sending 50-100k files they seem to
>>>>> go
>>>>> out in many brief bursts rather than one smooth uninterrupted message.
>>>>> Maybe 2,3 ,5 one second pauses. Could I have a buffer problem
>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>> SG
>>>>>
>>>>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uTIDM0P7IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> I would never send a picture of that size, I am only doing for
>>>>>> testing
>>>>>> this problem.
>>>>>> GREAT ISP : Sonic reply to size question
>>>>>> "The maximum allowed size that can be sent is 20mb. If your Outlook
>>>>>> Express is till breaking the messages up at a smaller size then we
>>>>>> should check a setting here. Go to Tools -> Accounts. Click on the
>>>>>> Mail
>>>>>> tab, select the sonic.net email account then click properties. In
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> screen click on the Advanced tab. Check the Sending option ensuring
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> "Break apart messages larger than" is NOT checked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps. Thanks for choosing Sonic.net!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SG
>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:e4PXXVO7IHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> To reconfirm all I just attempted to send a 3 meg picture file
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With default mark-up, a 3MB attachment to a, e.g., 10KB message
>>>>>>> becomes
>>>>>>> a ~4.1MB email! Most ISPs limit the size of an email to 2MB (and
>>>>>>> usually much lower than that).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's like trying to send a '77 Caddy in a shoe box via snail-mail,
>>>>>>> SG. Either resize the pic (considerably) or use other methods to
>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>> such a large file (e.g., FTP or CD sent via snail-mail).
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ~PA Bear
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SG wrote:
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>> To reconfirm all I just attempted to send a 3 meg picture file
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> modem shows no data at all indicated being sent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then receive message after about 2 minutes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. Subject
>>>>>>>> 'TEST',
>>>>>>>> Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server: 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol: SMTP,
>>>>>>>> Port:
>>>>>>>> 25, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCC19
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> next part of same message asks if I want to wait longer - I reply
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> About 1 minute later another message comes in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible
>>>>>>>> causes for
>>>>>>>> this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of
>>>>>>>> inactivity. Subject 'TEST', Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server:
>>>>>>>> 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): Yes,
>>>>>>>> Socket
>>>>>>>> Error:
>>>>>>>> 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
>>>>>>> <snip>

Bear yes AGAIN I do comply with all the caveats you suggest and YES I do
encounter this problem reoccurring time and time again. Honestly I do not
know if the cause lies in OE or XP but I can work around it using new
identity or by switching to a mail system other than OE which is much better
than starting XP life all over again.
Again thank you and Bruce for trying. I know you are as frustrated with me
as I am with the problem. I do wish though that you would accept the fact
that your standard cures do not fix all problems and you would not need to
keep repeating them. Admitting defeat, which I am at this point, is not a
sign of weakness but only acknowledges I, and you, are not all knowing.
Respectfully
SG


PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uIGKOAd7IHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> If you strictly adhere to all of the Caveats I've posted (at least twice
> in this thread), you should NOT encounter corruption. If you do,
> something's funky with your install of WinXP (not OE) and you'd need to do
> a format & reinstall (not a Repair Install).
>
> NB: Do NOT rename the MAIN IDENTITY, create a new one. To avoid any
> confusion, do not use the word MAIN in the name of any user-created
> identities.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
>
> SG wrote:
>> I AGREE. So please tell me what is breaking them and how to prevent it?
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eE8hMVS7IHA.3672@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> User-created identity's do NOT break of their own accord.
>>>
>>> Repost:
>>>> If the behavior's not fixed now, chances are your latest identity is
>>>> now
>>>> corrupt, too.
>>>>
>>>> General OE Caveats to avoid such problems:
>>>>
>>>> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to
>>>> local
>>>> folders created for this purpose.
>>>>
>>>> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>>>>
>>>> - Disable Background Compacting [removed in WinXP SP2] and frequently
>>>> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline".
>>>> More
>>>> at
>>>> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>>>>
>>>> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur,
>>>> and
>>>> do not attempt to close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if
>>>> Automatic Compacting is taking place.
>>>>
>>>> - Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
>>>> corruption (i.e., loss of messages), it provides no additional
>>>> protection,
>>>> and even Symantec says it's not necessary:
>>>>
>>>> <QP>
>>>> Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
>>>> that
>>>> are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect
>>>> scans
>>>> incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email
>>>> and
>>>> email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this.
>>>> To
>>>> make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
>>>> Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you
>>>> have
>>>> the most recent virus definitions.
>>>> </QP>
>>>> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2002111812533106
>>>>
>>>> If it happens *again*, stick to webmail, d00d.
>>>
>>> Source:
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.i...outlook
>>>
>>>
>>> SG wrote:
>>>> Creating a new identity has always fixed it and probably would again as
>>>> mentioned in original post. They seem to work for a few days or a few
>>>> weeks
>>>> then fail in this manor again
>>>> HOWEVER
>>>> I have generated about seven in past two months to get past this
>>>> problem
>>>> and
>>>> that's a lot of work with moving messages, moving address book, and
>>>> reestablishing newsgroups. Plus in my rush generating them to get a
>>>> post
>>>> out I have lost some old messages thru carelessness. I really need a
>>>> FIX
>>>> or
>>>> a CAUSE not a workaround.
>>>> Again thanks
>>>> SG
>>>> "Bruce Hagen" <Nospam.DeleteThis@mymail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:OfPPpNQ7IHA.1200@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Just to eliminate some things, create a new identity and test it. Any
>>>>> difference?
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW. I use Avast (free) myself and you /can/ install it in custom
>>>>> mode,
>>>>> although it may be called something else. I don't recall for sure.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Hagen
>>>>> MS-MVP Outlook Express
>>>>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eY%23PtHQ7IHA.2348@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> If this is any help I notice that sending 50-100k files they seem
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> go
>>>>>> out in many brief bursts rather than one smooth uninterrupted
>>>>>> message.
>>>>>> Maybe 2,3 ,5 one second pauses. Could I have a buffer problem
>>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>>> SG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "SG" <NOONE AT NOWHERE.NET> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uTIDM0P7IHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> I would never send a picture of that size, I am only doing for
>>>>>>> testing
>>>>>>> this problem.
>>>>>>> GREAT ISP : Sonic reply to size question
>>>>>>> "The maximum allowed size that can be sent is 20mb. If your Outlook
>>>>>>> Express is till breaking the messages up at a smaller size then we
>>>>>>> should check a setting here. Go to Tools -> Accounts. Click on the
>>>>>>> Mail
>>>>>>> tab, select the sonic.net email account then click properties. In
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> screen click on the Advanced tab. Check the Sending option ensuring
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> "Break apart messages larger than" is NOT checked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Thanks for choosing Sonic.net!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SG
>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:e4PXXVO7IHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> To reconfirm all I just attempted to send a 3 meg picture file
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With default mark-up, a 3MB attachment to a, e.g., 10KB message
>>>>>>>> becomes
>>>>>>>> a ~4.1MB email! Most ISPs limit the size of an email to 2MB (and
>>>>>>>> usually much lower than that).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's like trying to send a '77 Caddy in a shoe box via
>>>>>>>> snail-mail,
>>>>>>>> SG. Either resize the pic (considerably) or use other methods to
>>>>>>>> send
>>>>>>>> such a large file (e.g., FTP or CD sent via snail-mail).
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ~PA Bear
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SG wrote:
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>> To reconfirm all I just attempted to send a 3 meg picture file
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> modem shows no data at all indicated being sent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then receive message after about 2 minutes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A time-out occurred while communicating with the server. Subject
>>>>>>>>> 'TEST',
>>>>>>>>> Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server: 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol:
>>>>>>>>> SMTP,
>>>>>>>>> Port:
>>>>>>>>> 25, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error Number: 0x800CCC19
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> next part of same message asks if I want to wait longer - I reply
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> About 1 minute later another message comes in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible
>>>>>>>>> causes for
>>>>>>>>> this include server problems, network problems, or a long period
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> inactivity. Subject 'TEST', Account: 'POP.SONIC.NET', Server:
>>>>>>>>> 'MAIL.SONIC.NET', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): Yes,
>>>>>>>>> Socket
>>>>>>>>> Error:
>>>>>>>>> 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
>>>>>>>> <snip>
>