(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:36 pm
Post subject: Re: help in startup [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>win95>general>discussion (more info?)
yes, no other characters do not appear its on the screen before that. i think
i know what battery you mean how would i fix it the pc i am trying to fix is
not the same one im using to post this,so ill try to google it
"Jeff Richards" wrote:
> Have you tried FN-F2?
>
> If you type other characters, do they appear over that key symbol, or do
> asterisks or similar appear over the key?
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "ineedhelp" <pastorgriffin.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:536AFA0F-F4BE-427F-A53E-F5E43AF8E30A@microsoft.com...
> > also it doesnt go to the password screen stays on one of those black
> > startup
> > screens this one says "KB...etc. ok" at the top and at the bottom there is
> > a
> > line w/ some numbers under it-it used to say press "FN-F2 to enter setup"
> > now
> > it doesnt
> >
>
>
>
(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:33 pm
Post subject: Re: help in startup [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I'm not sure googling it is going to help much, as it's not a common
computer make or model and there doesn't seem to be much information
available about it.
The key symbol tells me the machine is locked for some reason, and that in
turn leads me to guess that the BIOS password is active, and that could
happen if the BIOS backup battery has gone flat and the default mode of
operation for that BIOS is to require a password. That's quite a string of
maybes, and you need some proper documentation for the machine in order to
confirm them.
If the battery is flat then it needs to be replaced, but that doesn't help
you since you will still need to get past the password (if that's the
problem).
Here's one from left field - some systems will not boot if the case is open.
If this was the problem you would be able to see one or more small switches
mounted near the lid or removable panel with wires leading back to the
motherboard.
Other than that, it's a matter of finding someone familiar with that
particular machine.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"ineedhelp" <ineedhelp DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BFF00976-1218-430C-9820-BD86DAA6977B@microsoft.com...
> yes, no other characters do not appear its on the screen before that. i
> think
> i know what battery you mean how would i fix it the pc i am trying to fix
> is
> not the same one im using to post this,so ill try to google it
>
> "Jeff Richards" wrote:
>
>> Have you tried FN-F2?
>>
>> If you type other characters, do they appear over that key symbol, or do
>> asterisks or similar appear over the key?
>> --
>> Jeff Richards
>> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>> "ineedhelp" <pastorgriffin DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:536AFA0F-F4BE-427F-A53E-F5E43AF8E30A@microsoft.com...
>> > also it doesnt go to the password screen stays on one of those black
>> > startup
>> > screens this one says "KB...etc. ok" at the top and at the bottom there
>> > is
>> > a
>> > line w/ some numbers under it-it used to say press "FN-F2 to enter
>> > setup"
>> > now
>> > it doesnt
>> >
>>
>>
>>
(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:06 pm
Post subject: Re: help in startup [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
well i googled it any way and it came up but the pages i found were just for
selling stuff for my pc i also have 3-4 other laptops and would like to ask
about problems w/ them-whats it mean when it says disk controller failure and
wont start up??
"Jeff Richards" wrote:
> I'm not sure googling it is going to help much, as it's not a common
> computer make or model and there doesn't seem to be much information
> available about it.
>
> The key symbol tells me the machine is locked for some reason, and that in
> turn leads me to guess that the BIOS password is active, and that could
> happen if the BIOS backup battery has gone flat and the default mode of
> operation for that BIOS is to require a password. That's quite a string of
> maybes, and you need some proper documentation for the machine in order to
> confirm them.
>
> If the battery is flat then it needs to be replaced, but that doesn't help
> you since you will still need to get past the password (if that's the
> problem).
>
> Here's one from left field - some systems will not boot if the case is open.
> If this was the problem you would be able to see one or more small switches
> mounted near the lid or removable panel with wires leading back to the
> motherboard.
>
> Other than that, it's a matter of finding someone familiar with that
> particular machine.
>
> --
> Jeff Richards
> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> "ineedhelp" <ineedhelp RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BFF00976-1218-430C-9820-BD86DAA6977B@microsoft.com...
> > yes, no other characters do not appear its on the screen before that. i
> > think
> > i know what battery you mean how would i fix it the pc i am trying to fix
> > is
> > not the same one im using to post this,so ill try to google it
> >
> > "Jeff Richards" wrote:
> >
> >> Have you tried FN-F2?
> >>
> >> If you type other characters, do they appear over that key symbol, or do
> >> asterisks or similar appear over the key?
> >> --
> >> Jeff Richards
> >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
> >> "ineedhelp" <pastorgriffin RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:536AFA0F-F4BE-427F-A53E-F5E43AF8E30A@microsoft.com...
> >> > also it doesnt go to the password screen stays on one of those black
> >> > startup
> >> > screens this one says "KB...etc. ok" at the top and at the bottom there
> >> > is
> >> > a
> >> > line w/ some numbers under it-it used to say press "FN-F2 to enter
> >> > setup"
> >> > now
> >> > it doesnt
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:30 pm
Post subject: Re: help in startup [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
You should start a new question as a new thread, but disk controller failure
means exactly that - the system has detected that the disk controller has
failed, and as a result it cannot read the hard disk drive.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"ineedhelp" <ineedhelp.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5B212BCB-7A3A-493E-92E0-3F95058AC4CD@microsoft.com...
> well i googled it any way and it came up but the pages i found were just
> for
> selling stuff for my pc i also have 3-4 other laptops and would like to
> ask
> about problems w/ them-whats it mean when it says disk controller failure
> and
> wont start up??
>
> "Jeff Richards" wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure googling it is going to help much, as it's not a common
>> computer make or model and there doesn't seem to be much information
>> available about it.
>>
>> The key symbol tells me the machine is locked for some reason, and that
>> in
>> turn leads me to guess that the BIOS password is active, and that could
>> happen if the BIOS backup battery has gone flat and the default mode of
>> operation for that BIOS is to require a password. That's quite a string
>> of
>> maybes, and you need some proper documentation for the machine in order
>> to
>> confirm them.
>>
>> If the battery is flat then it needs to be replaced, but that doesn't
>> help
>> you since you will still need to get past the password (if that's the
>> problem).
>>
>> Here's one from left field - some systems will not boot if the case is
>> open.
>> If this was the problem you would be able to see one or more small
>> switches
>> mounted near the lid or removable panel with wires leading back to the
>> motherboard.
>>
>> Other than that, it's a matter of finding someone familiar with that
>> particular machine.
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Richards
>> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>> "ineedhelp" <ineedhelp.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BFF00976-1218-430C-9820-BD86DAA6977B@microsoft.com...
>> > yes, no other characters do not appear its on the screen before that. i
>> > think
>> > i know what battery you mean how would i fix it the pc i am trying to
>> > fix
>> > is
>> > not the same one im using to post this,so ill try to google it
>> >
>> > "Jeff Richards" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Have you tried FN-F2?
>> >>
>> >> If you type other characters, do they appear over that key symbol, or
>> >> do
>> >> asterisks or similar appear over the key?
>> >> --
>> >> Jeff Richards
>> >> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
>> >> "ineedhelp" <pastorgriffin.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:536AFA0F-F4BE-427F-A53E-F5E43AF8E30A@microsoft.com...
>> >> > also it doesnt go to the password screen stays on one of those black
>> >> > startup
>> >> > screens this one says "KB...etc. ok" at the top and at the bottom
>> >> > there
>> >> > is
>> >> > a
>> >> > line w/ some numbers under it-it used to say press "FN-F2 to enter
>> >> > setup"
>> >> > now
>> >> > it doesnt
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:05 pm
Post subject: Re: help in startup [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
ineedhelp wrote:
> yes, no other characters do not appear its on the screen before that.
> i think i know what battery you mean how would i fix it the pc i am
> trying to fix is not the same one im using to post this,so ill try to
> google it
[]
Yes, you hadn't said it was a laptop until you mentioned the battery
charging OK - as you've guessed, it's not the main battery.
How to fix it - you have two problems (three if it's an obscure sort):
1. You have to figure out how to open it up to find where the cell in
question is. (The 'net may help, but you probably need a service manual,
which are often not as freely available as ordinary manuals.) Just hope it's
not soldered in when you get there ...
2. As Jeff has said, you need the password even after you've replaced the
battery (probably a cell actually). Unless you're lucky and it only defaults
to needing the password when the cell is flat - or there's a link on the
board that lets you in.
--
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