ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlo..

External Since: Apr 18, 2008 Posts: 12

Because there is no such thing as version 12. Could it be that he meant
connecter for Office [with Outlook] version 12?

Hope this helps.

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:

> @Scott: Why does the Download page still say "Version: 4" ???
>
> ...winston wrote:
>
>> Here's the link for Outlook Connector Version 12
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7aad7e6a-931e...8a-950c
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>
>

External Since: May 07, 2008 Posts: 1

"N. Miller" <anonymous DeleteThis @msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message
news:b9lad14i2uvv.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...
> On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:31:46 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Hmm, so they dropped WebDAV access for freebie accounts created after
>> November 2004. Now they're dropping WebDAV access even for paid
>> accounts (any create date) and forcing users to their Windows Live Mail
>> client which has security flaws and defects...
>
> More so than MS Outlook Express? Could you elaborate?
>
>> ...just so they can push their Hotmail users to use a client and connect
>> to their HTTP servers that now support DeltaSync
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeltaSync). All so Microsoft doesn't have
>> to support already established e-mail protocols and lock their Hotmail
>> users into using Microsoft e-mail clients.
>
> WebDAV isn't, exactly, an "established" protocol. It is, and always has
> been, a closed-source, proprietary protocol. And anybody using MSN Hotmail
> between the time that they shut off POP3/SMTP access, and shut of WebDAV
> access has been locked in to using Microsoft e-mail clients. With the
> possible exception of IncrediMail, which is probably the only client worse
> than MS Outlook Express, I can't think of a client which includes support
> for WebDAV. This is what happens with closed-source, proprietary systmes.
>
> "Established" protocols, at least of the open source variety, are:
>
> POP3
> IMAP
> SMTP
>
> MS Outlook Express will continue to support those "estabished" protocols,
> and even Windows Live Hotmail will support them on the paid accounts.
>
>> Well, the microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop group should be
>> getting a lot more busy. Wonder how many will simply choose to dump a
>> local e-mail client and just go with the Windows Live Hotmail "full"
>> webmail interface? Might be what Microsoft intends to happen, anyway,
>> so they can push their Ajax-enabled webmail interface.
>
> Or they might just be "going with the flow". Of four people, whom I help
> with computer support, none routinely use a desktop e-mail client; only
> one
> even knows what an e-mail client is. I'd guess that 65% to 70% of the
> users
> on the Internet, and 85% to 90% of new users, don't even know that there
> is
> more to the Internet than the web.
>
> --
> Norman
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