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winner5+63

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:54 pm
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Hello! Would like to know why there are differences in sizes of files or
folders when displayed in Windows Explorer and in Properties of files and
folders(mostly files). Example: In Windows Explorer the Microsoft Picture
It! 2002 folder, one the files 'openscn6.its', is showed as size 5,282KB's,
but in Properties it is sized 5.15MB's (5,408,329 bytes) 5,423,104 bytes
used. Is there something corrupted here? Have these differences on a lot
of files. Please help!
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Tim Slattery

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:07 pm
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"winner5+63" <goodread RemoveThis @nicepost.snakehips> wrote:

>Hello! Would like to know why there are differences in sizes of files or
>folders when displayed in Windows Explorer and in Properties of files and
>folders(mostly files). Example: In Windows Explorer the Microsoft Picture
>It! 2002 folder, one the files 'openscn6.its', is showed as size 5,282KB's,
>but in Properties it is sized 5.15MB's (5,408,329 bytes) 5,423,104 bytes
>used. Is there something corrupted here? Have these differences on a lot
>of files. Please help!

The KB and MB figures are in *binary* kilobytes and megabytes. A
binary kilobyte is 2**10 = 1,024 bytes. A binary megabyte is 2**20 =
1,048,576 bytes. So that 5,408,329 byte file comes out to
5,281.5712890625 binary KBs, and 5.15778446197509765625 binary
Megabytes.

The difference between the 5,408,329 size and 5,423,104 used is slack
space. That's the amount of space in the last allocation unit that
wasn't completely filled.

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Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)
Slattery_T RemoveThis @bls.gov
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winner5+63

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:35 pm
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Thank you sir. Excuse my paranoia, I feel like a cat on a hot microchip!
Not good with the math, but I'll go figure. What does DTS stand for? May
have more questions---want to post in the right place.
"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T RemoveThis @bls.gov> wrote in message
news:09gvm1hl4plb8qk1s0v7sm2ivm5l9l6c9s@4ax.com...
> "winner5+63" <goodread RemoveThis @nicepost.snakehips> wrote:
>
> >Hello! Would like to know why there are differences in sizes of files or
> >folders when displayed in Windows Explorer and in Properties of files
and
> >folders(mostly files). Example: In Windows Explorer the Microsoft
Picture
> >It! 2002 folder, one the files 'openscn6.its', is showed as size
5,282KB's,
> >but in Properties it is sized 5.15MB's (5,408,329 bytes) 5,423,104 bytes
> >used. Is there something corrupted here? Have these differences on a
lot
> >of files. Please help!
>
> The KB and MB figures are in *binary* kilobytes and megabytes. A
> binary kilobyte is 2**10 = 1,024 bytes. A binary megabyte is 2**20 =
> 1,048,576 bytes. So that 5,408,329 byte file comes out to
> 5,281.5712890625 binary KBs, and 5.15778446197509765625 binary
> Megabytes.
>
> The difference between the 5,408,329 size and 5,423,104 used is slack
> space. That's the amount of space in the last allocation unit that
> wasn't completely filled.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(DTS)
> Slattery_T RemoveThis @bls.gov
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:38 am
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DTS = desktop systems. Tim and I are throwbacks I guess as both of our MVP
titles should read, Shell User (which I don't care for).

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"winner5+63" <goodread RemoveThis @nicepost.snakehips> wrote in message
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> Thank you sir. Excuse my paranoia, I feel like a cat on a hot microchip!
> Not good with the math, but I'll go figure. What does DTS stand for? May
> have more questions---want to post in the right place.
> "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T RemoveThis @bls.gov> wrote in message
> news:09gvm1hl4plb8qk1s0v7sm2ivm5l9l6c9s@4ax.com...
>> "winner5+63" <goodread RemoveThis @nicepost.snakehips> wrote:
>>
>> >Hello! Would like to know why there are differences in sizes of files
>> >or
>> >folders when displayed in Windows Explorer and in Properties of files
> and
>> >folders(mostly files). Example: In Windows Explorer the Microsoft
> Picture
>> >It! 2002 folder, one the files 'openscn6.its', is showed as size
> 5,282KB's,
>> >but in Properties it is sized 5.15MB's (5,408,329 bytes) 5,423,104 bytes
>> >used. Is there something corrupted here? Have these differences on a
> lot
>> >of files. Please help!
>>
>> The KB and MB figures are in *binary* kilobytes and megabytes. A
>> binary kilobyte is 2**10 = 1,024 bytes. A binary megabyte is 2**20 =
>> 1,048,576 bytes. So that 5,408,329 byte file comes out to
>> 5,281.5712890625 binary KBs, and 5.15778446197509765625 binary
>> Megabytes.
>>
>> The difference between the 5,408,329 size and 5,423,104 used is slack
>> space. That's the amount of space in the last allocation unit that
>> wasn't completely filled.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Slattery
>> MS MVP(DTS)
>> Slattery_T RemoveThis @bls.gov
>
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:44 am
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"winner5+63" <goodread.RemoveThis@nicepost.snakehips> wrote:

>Thank you sir. Excuse my paranoia, I feel like a cat on a hot microchip!
>Not good with the math, but I'll go figure. What does DTS stand for?

Umm...err...DTS is actually an obsolete acronym. Several years ago,
one of the MVP categories was for "Desktop Systems", and that's what
DTS stands for. MS seems to change the MVP categories every year, and
I'm afraid my signature has not been keeping up.

Officially these days, I'm an MVP in the "Windows - Shell/User"
category.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)
Slattery_T.RemoveThis@bls.gov
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winner5+63

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:29 am
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Okay guys, forgive my not so funny quips. I have checked my
dictionary(Webster's New World---Computer Dictionary, 9th edition), and it
says that shell means, "In computer operating systsems, a text-mode command
interface that enables users to communicate directly with the kernel. the
heart of the operating system." Then it goes on about Unix and Unix-like
OP's and the variety of shells---bash csh, and ksh. This all sounds like an
independent, and precise way of operating and using your computer system.
It also sounds like it is more controlling of your system. Am I on the right
track? I have invested a lot in the system and would like to use it at it's
fullest potential. I do feel that there is more to Windows 98se that it is
given credit for. I don't really need a system that works faster than I can
blink my eyes. I do want a system that can do what I want it to though. I
also believe that there is no such thing as a throw-back. Small fish have
their purpose too(Or does that mean something else?) Dialect and ethnicity
can get you into trouble sometimes. Hope that I've asked something
relevant---I tend to 'elaborate', 'opinionate', or something in that area. I
drift now.........................coffee deficient!

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"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T DeleteThis @bls.gov> wrote in message
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> "winner5+63" <goodread DeleteThis @nicepost.snakehips> wrote:
>
> >Thank you sir. Excuse my paranoia, I feel like a cat on a hot microchip!
> >Not good with the math, but I'll go figure. What does DTS stand for?
>
> Umm...err...DTS is actually an obsolete acronym. Several years ago,
> one of the MVP categories was for "Desktop Systems", and that's what
> DTS stands for. MS seems to change the MVP categories every year, and
> I'm afraid my signature has not been keeping up.
>
> Officially these days, I'm an MVP in the "Windows - Shell/User"
> category.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(DTS)
> Slattery_T DeleteThis @bls.gov
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:30 pm
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"winner5+63" <goodread.RemoveThis@nicepost.snakehips> wrote:

>Okay guys, forgive my not so funny quips. I have checked my
>dictionary(Webster's New World---Computer Dictionary, 9th edition), and it
>says that shell means, "In computer operating systsems, a text-mode command
>interface that enables users to communicate directly with the kernel. the
>heart of the operating system." Then it goes on about Unix and Unix-like
>OP's and the variety of shells---bash csh, and ksh. This all sounds like an
>independent, and precise way of operating and using your computer system.

Basically, yes. You interact with your computer system via the shell.
in Unix, bash (Bourne-again shell), csh (C-shell), ksh (Korn shell),
and bsh (Bourne shell) are all character-mode command processors that
allow users to tell the computer what to do. They are somewhat like
what you see when you bring up a command console (or "DOS box") in a
Windows computer system, but the Unix shells are far more powerful
than the Windows command-line interface.

In Windows the "shell" refers to the desktop, Windows Explorer, the
Start Menu, the taskbar and all the other things that you use to tell
Windows what to do. (And the command console would be included too.)
Dragging files from place to place, starting programs, switching
between programs, using the Control Panel, etc, etc... are shell
operations.

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Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)
Slattery_T.RemoveThis@bls.gov
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:19 pm
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Wow! Alrightie now. So this means that I would have to learn the 'command'
language?, in order to utilize the shell privileges. I've learned that when
instructors says 'basically', there is more to it than basically. So tell
me more. Question---what is the difference between 'safe' mode, and dos
mode, and command mode?

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T DeleteThis @bls.gov> wrote in message
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> "winner5+63" <goodread DeleteThis @nicepost.snakehips> wrote:
>
> >Okay guys, forgive my not so funny quips. I have checked my
> >dictionary(Webster's New World---Computer Dictionary, 9th edition), and
it
> >says that shell means, "In computer operating systsems, a text-mode
command
> >interface that enables users to communicate directly with the kernel. the
> >heart of the operating system." Then it goes on about Unix and
Unix-like
> >OP's and the variety of shells---bash csh, and ksh. This all sounds like
an
> >independent, and precise way of operating and using your computer system.
>
> Basically, yes. You interact with your computer system via the shell.
> in Unix, bash (Bourne-again shell), csh (C-shell), ksh (Korn shell),
> and bsh (Bourne shell) are all character-mode command processors that
> allow users to tell the computer what to do. They are somewhat like
> what you see when you bring up a command console (or "DOS box") in a
> Windows computer system, but the Unix shells are far more powerful
> than the Windows command-line interface.
>
> In Windows the "shell" refers to the desktop, Windows Explorer, the
> Start Menu, the taskbar and all the other things that you use to tell
> Windows what to do. (And the command console would be included too.)
> Dragging files from place to place, starting programs, switching
> between programs, using the Control Panel, etc, etc... are shell
> operations.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(DTS)
> Slattery_T DeleteThis @bls.gov
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