(Msg. 25) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:51 pm
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Mike M wrote:
> I never really liked the Victor but that picture makes it look good.
I think they look much better without the refueling pods on the wings! It is
a very graceful aircraft and sometimes I think it looks better than the
Vulcan, while other times I think it looks ugly! It certainly was a
performer! Perhaps it is that from certain angles it looks good, and I'd
suggest those are the ones where it most resembles a Swallow. Or anyway
that's what *I* think it looks like.
>
> BTW I have had sitting here for ages another disk of videos, not
> Vulcan but rather various other UK post WWII aircraft including two
> my Dad worked on - the Gannet and the Airco 121 (cannot remember if
The Gannet I know, but not the Airco. The Gannet was quite remarkeable,
wasn't it (and as if to prove it, I just remarked upon it!).
> the number was 121) later DH121 then HS121 better known as Trident.
But I never realised how ahead of it's time the Trident was! I mean, I
(vaguely) remember it entering service; how noisy it was; and the Staines
crash. Amazing to think that we didn't have the black box requirement prior
to that.
Anyway, definate pilot error, not the aircraft, at fault. The aircraft was
yet another British aviation first and I wish I could go on one but...it
hardly needs saying, does it; you can take it as a given, there are none
flying anywhere in the world today!
> I even managed to find on YouTube a clip of another he worked on
> during the 50s, the Rotadyne, including shots of a demo it made of
> moving a bridge where I was standing close to the film crew.
Right, I'll go take a look at that. I trust you're not actually in it, then,
since they probably didn't film themselves?
And btw, have you seen Jeremy Bentham's head then? That is/was a bizarre
one!
Okay, so; I'll just go and make a nice cup of tea now, Father!
(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:53 pm
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Airco was a 1950s state engineered co-operative between DeHavilland,
Hunting and Fairey. It may have even included Bristol but I'm not so sure
there. The Trident was the result. When the big mergers of the 60s came
along the various parts of Airco ended up in different groups, for example
Fairey was subsumed within Westland (together with Saunders Roe),
DeHavilland within Hawker Siddley and I think Hunting ended up with the
likes of Miles, Auster and Beagle.
> And btw, have you seen Jeremy Bentham's head then? That is/was a
> bizarre one!
Yes, many a time and not in its customary glass dome either. What hair it
still has is a vivid orange!
--
Mike
> Mike M wrote:
>> I never really liked the Victor but that picture makes it look good.
>
> I think they look much better without the refueling pods on the
> wings! It is a very graceful aircraft and sometimes I think it looks
> better than the Vulcan, while other times I think it looks ugly! It
> certainly was a performer! Perhaps it is that from certain angles it
> looks good, and I'd suggest those are the ones where it most
> resembles a Swallow. Or anyway that's what *I* think it looks like.
>
>
>>
>> BTW I have had sitting here for ages another disk of videos, not
>> Vulcan but rather various other UK post WWII aircraft including two
>> my Dad worked on - the Gannet and the Airco 121 (cannot remember if
>
> The Gannet I know, but not the Airco. The Gannet was quite
> remarkeable, wasn't it (and as if to prove it, I just remarked upon
> it!).
>> the number was 121) later DH121 then HS121 better known as Trident.
>
> But I never realised how ahead of it's time the Trident was! I mean, I
> (vaguely) remember it entering service; how noisy it was; and the
> Staines crash. Amazing to think that we didn't have the black box
> requirement prior to that.
>
> Anyway, definate pilot error, not the aircraft, at fault. The
> aircraft was yet another British aviation first and I wish I could go
> on one but...it hardly needs saying, does it; you can take it as a
> given, there are none flying anywhere in the world today!
>
>> I even managed to find on YouTube a clip of another he worked on
>> during the 50s, the Rotadyne, including shots of a demo it made of
>> moving a bridge where I was standing close to the film crew.
>
> Right, I'll go take a look at that. I trust you're not actually in
> it, then, since they probably didn't film themselves?
>
> And btw, have you seen Jeremy Bentham's head then? That is/was a
> bizarre one!
>
> Okay, so; I'll just go and make a nice cup of tea now, Father!
(Msg. 27) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:54 pm
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>> And btw, have you seen Jeremy Bentham's head then? That is/was a
>> bizarre one!
>
> Yes, many a time and not in its customary glass dome either. What
> hair it still has is a vivid orange!
PS I'm talking here about the real head which is kept under a dome in a
wooden box that until the mid 90s or so used to sit at his feet in his
glassfronted cabinet but is now kept under lock and key elsewhere
following a break-in when various of his personal artefacts were stolen
such as rings, pens and spectacles. The head on the autoicon that can be
seen by visitors is a wax model and looks almost respectable.
For a long time JB was brought in to meetings of UCL's Council where his
presence was recorded in the Minutes as "Present but not voting". I think
this stopped in the 1960s or 70s.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.RemoveThis@gmail.com
Mike M <No_Spam.RemoveThis@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote:
> Airco was a 1950s state engineered co-operative between DeHavilland,
> Hunting and Fairey. It may have even included Bristol but I'm not so
> sure there. The Trident was the result. When the big mergers of the
> 60s came along the various parts of Airco ended up in different
> groups, for example Fairey was subsumed within Westland (together
> with Saunders Roe), DeHavilland within Hawker Siddley and I think
> Hunting ended up with the likes of Miles, Auster and Beagle.
>
>> And btw, have you seen Jeremy Bentham's head then? That is/was a
>> bizarre one!
>
> Yes, many a time and not in its customary glass dome either. What
> hair it still has is a vivid orange!
(Msg. 28) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:09 am
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ctowers wrote:
> Dr. Archibald Crumpenshtupa wrote:
>>> happened and that nuclear bomber was recalled and finally got to
>>> drop some ordinance - just the conventional kind - on Port Stanley,
>>
>> You'd have thought - what with all the hiking and the maps that
>> requires - that I'd have learnt the word 'ordnance' by now, wouldn't
>> you?
>
> A real "Dr." would have known.
I am a doctor of Pseudology!
In fact, if you look ever so carefully out of your peripheral vision...and
then *suddenly* turn your head!...you might catch a glimpse of my diploma.
But as it is from the University of Brigadoon, you just might not see it!
(Msg. 29) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:09 am
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"Mrs Doyle" <parochialhouse.RemoveThis@craggyisland.com> wrote in message
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> ctowers wrote:
>> Dr. Archibald Crumpenshtupa wrote:
>>>> happened and that nuclear bomber was recalled and finally got to
>>>> drop some ordinance - just the conventional kind - on Port Stanley,
>>>
>>> You'd have thought - what with all the hiking and the maps that
>>> requires - that I'd have learnt the word 'ordnance' by now, wouldn't
>>> you?
>>
>> A real "Dr." would have known. >
> I am a doctor of Pseudology!
>
> In fact, if you look ever so carefully out of your peripheral
> vision...and then *suddenly* turn your head!...you might catch a
> glimpse of my diploma. But as it is from the University of Brigadoon,
> you just might not see it!
>
> Dr Mrs Doyle
(Msg. 30) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:47 pm
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Heather wrote:
> "Mrs Doyle" <parochialhouse RemoveThis @craggyisland.com> wrote in message
> news:enfSbyf7IHA.5596@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> ctowers wrote:
>>> Dr. Archibald Crumpenshtupa wrote:
>>>>> happened and that nuclear bomber was recalled and finally got to
>>>>> drop some ordinance - just the conventional kind - on Port
>>>>> Stanley,
>>>>
>>>> You'd have thought - what with all the hiking and the maps that
>>>> requires - that I'd have learnt the word 'ordnance' by now,
>>>> wouldn't you?
>>>
>>> A real "Dr." would have known. >>
>> I am a doctor of Pseudology!
>>
>> In fact, if you look ever so carefully out of your peripheral
>> vision...and then *suddenly* turn your head!...you might catch a
>> glimpse of my diploma. But as it is from the University of Brigadoon,
>> you just might not see it!
>>
>> Dr Mrs Doyle
>
> And this is the mother of Dr. Mrs. Doyle.......
>
> GET TO BED!!!! IT IS LIKE 5 AM OVER THERE!!!
(Msg. 31) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:15 am
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"Mike M" <No_Spam RemoveThis @Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
news:eKfv1Ae7IHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> And btw, have you seen Jeremy Bentham's head then? That is/was a
>>> bizarre one!
>>
>> Yes, many a time and not in its customary glass dome either. What
>> hair it still has is a vivid orange!
>
That is strange, isn't it? I presume it isn't the consequence of an
deliberate act or an accident?
> PS I'm talking here about the real head which is kept under a dome in a
> wooden box that until the mid 90s or so used to sit at his feet in his
> glassfronted cabinet but is now kept under lock and key elsewhere
> following a break-in when various of his personal artefacts were stolen
> such as rings, pens and spectacles. The head on the autoicon that can be
> seen by visitors is a wax model and looks almost respectable.
>
> For a long time JB was brought in to meetings of UCL's Council where his
> presence was recorded in the Minutes as "Present but not voting". I think
> this stopped in the 1960s or 70s.
Ha ha!
Mind you, you'll probably find that he was down the road, in the Commons, a
few weeks back "Voting but not present" when they got 42 days through!
Presumably when they hold the innocent incommunicado for 42 days, they'll be
hoping to find the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.
(Msg. 32) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:36 am
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Arturo Seis <sixpencedearturo RemoveThis @googlemail.com> wrote:
> That is strange, isn't it? I presume it isn't the consequence of an
> deliberate act or an accident?
I think that is more a consequence of his pickling instructions not having
quite the effect he had hoped for or expected.
> Ha ha!
>
> Mind you, you'll probably find that he was down the road, in the
> Commons, a few weeks back "Voting but not present" when they got 42
> days through!
You're getting on dangerous ground here. There are quite a few that I
would like to see locked up for 42 days without charge, all known to
occasionally frequent the Commons including GB and several in his Cabinet.
> Presumably when they hold the innocent incommunicado for 42 days,
> they'll be hoping to find the answer to Life, the Universe, and
> Everything.
It would take far more than 42 days for our beloved leader to admit to any
error let alone discover the meaning of anything.
And to think I didn't used to be a fan of Liar!
--
Mike M
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