XP to Win98 network problem

"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:43:05 -0000, "Susan"
> <susansknowspam DeleteThis @btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> A network with both TCP/IP and NetBEUI will probably prove to be
> >> unreliable in the long run. I recommend removing NetBEUI from both
> >> computers and configuring TCP/IP properly.
> >>
> >> A firewall program on the XP computer is probably causing the original
> >> problem. Make sure that any firewall program is configured to allow
> >> File and Printer Sharing on the local area network.
> >
> >Thanks for the help.
> >
> >I removed all NETBEUI protocols.
> >ZoneAlarm was blocking access.
> >Setting Internet and Trusted zones to low(off) allows it to work.
> >Adding the XP "Sues" to the trusted zone in zonealarm (Firewall/Zones)
> >allows it to work with High and Medium settings.
> >
> >I still can't get access to the internet from the XP via the Win98
dial-up
> >modem.
> >
> >Trying to access with Outlook Express gives the error message "The host
> >mail.btinternet.com could not be found...."
> >
> >John
>
> You're welcome, John. Nice job of figuring out the firewall settings.
>
> Both Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows XP can share their dial-up
> modem connection with another computer on the local network using
> Internet Connection Sharing. If possible, I recommend making XP the
> host computer (the one with the modem) and making 98 the client
> computer.
>
> I've written some web pages showing how to set it up:
>
> ICS Installation [Win98SE]
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsinstall.htm
>
> Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>

Come back NETBEUI all is forgiven.


With just the TCP/IP protocol installed;

The win98 can share files and access the internet.
The xp can share files but only if every time I switch on I go into
ZoneAlarm (free) and install "sues" in the trusted zone or change the
ethernet from internet to trusted zone.
The xp can't share the internet.

If I follow the instructions
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsinstall.htm it installs
Internet Connection Sharing items in the network configuration panel creates
a floppy disk and requires me to restart.

The win98 can then no longer access the internet.

Is it possible to have the modem in the win98 and have the xp share it?
I don't remember having ICS installed when The two win98s were sharing the
connection.

John

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:31:48 -0000, "Susan"
<susansknowspam.DeleteThis@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Both Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows XP can share their dial-up
>> modem connection with another computer on the local network using
>> Internet Connection Sharing. If possible, I recommend making XP the
>> host computer (the one with the modem) and making 98 the client
>> computer.
>>
>> I've written some web pages showing how to set it up:
>>
>> ICS Installation [Win98SE]
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsinstall.htm
>>
>> Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
>
>Come back NETBEUI all is forgiven.
>
>With just the TCP/IP protocol installed;
>
>The win98 can share files and access the internet.
>The xp can share files but only if every time I switch on I go into
>ZoneAlarm (free) and install "sues" in the trusted zone or change the
>ethernet from internet to trusted zone.
>The xp can't share the internet.
>
>If I follow the instructions
>http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsinstall.htm it installs
>Internet Connection Sharing items in the network configuration panel creates
>a floppy disk and requires me to restart.
>
>The win98 can then no longer access the internet.
>
>Is it possible to have the modem in the win98 and have the xp share it?
>I don't remember having ICS installed when The two win98s were sharing the
>connection.
>
>John

The free version of ZoneAlarm is incompatible with Internet Connection
Sharing on the host computer. To use XP as the host, you'll have to
uninstall ZoneAlarm on XP. XP's built-in Windows Firewall gives the
protection you need.

Yes, you can have the modem in the Win98 computer. Win98 doesn't have
a built-in Internet sharing capability -- that requires ICS or a
similar third-party program.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Ah sorry Steve, not challenging you or anything, but you indicate XP's
firewall is enough. It doesn't appear to be:

http://www.firewallleaktester.com/index.html

There are several other testing sites that rank XP's firewall poorly on
their lists as well.


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"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:31:48 -0000, "Susan"
| <susansknowspam.TakeThisOut@btinternet.com> wrote:
| >> Both Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows XP can share their dial-up
| >> modem connection with another computer on the local network using
| >> Internet Connection Sharing. If possible, I recommend making XP the
| >> host computer (the one with the modem) and making 98 the client
| >> computer.
| >>
| >> I've written some web pages showing how to set it up:
| >>
| >> ICS Installation [Win98SE]
| >> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsinstall.htm
| >>
| >> Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
| >> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
| >
| >Come back NETBEUI all is forgiven.
| >
| >With just the TCP/IP protocol installed;
| >
| >The win98 can share files and access the internet.
| >The xp can share files but only if every time I switch on I go into
| >ZoneAlarm (free) and install "sues" in the trusted zone or change the
| >ethernet from internet to trusted zone.
| >The xp can't share the internet.
| >
| >If I follow the instructions
| >http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsinstall.htm it
installs
| >Internet Connection Sharing items in the network configuration panel
creates
| >a floppy disk and requires me to restart.
| >
| >The win98 can then no longer access the internet.
| >
| >Is it possible to have the modem in the win98 and have the xp share it?
| >I don't remember having ICS installed when The two win98s were sharing
the
| >connection.
| >
| >John
|
| The free version of ZoneAlarm is incompatible with Internet Connection
| Sharing on the host computer. To use XP as the host, you'll have to
| uninstall ZoneAlarm on XP. XP's built-in Windows Firewall gives the
| protection you need.
|
| Yes, you can have the modem in the Win98 computer. Win98 doesn't have
| a built-in Internet sharing capability -- that requires ICS or a
| similar third-party program.
| --
| Best Wishes,
| Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
|
| Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
| for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
| addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
|
| Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:0uujq3thrrvnrpq0oud7eu3toamv7t70jp@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:31:48 -0000, "Susan"
> <susansknowspam.TakeThisOut@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> Both Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows XP can share their dial-up
> >> modem connection with another computer on the local network using
> >> Internet Connection Sharing. If possible, I recommend making XP the
> >> host computer (the one with the modem) and making 98 the client
> >> computer.
> >>
> >> I've written some web pages showing how to set it up:
> >>
> >> ICS Installation [Win98SE]
> >> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsinstall.htm
> >>
> >> Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
> >> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
> >
> >Come back NETBEUI all is forgiven.
> >
> >With just the TCP/IP protocol installed;
> >
> >The win98 can share files and access the internet.
> >The xp can share files but only if every time I switch on I go into
> >ZoneAlarm (free) and install "sues" in the trusted zone or change the
> >ethernet from internet to trusted zone.
> >The xp can't share the internet.
> >
> >If I follow the instructions
> >http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/ics/icsinstall.htm it
installs
> >Internet Connection Sharing items in the network configuration panel
creates
> >a floppy disk and requires me to restart.
> >
> >The win98 can then no longer access the internet.
> >
> >Is it possible to have the modem in the win98 and have the xp share it?
> >I don't remember having ICS installed when The two win98s were sharing
the
> >connection.
> >
> >John
>
> The free version of ZoneAlarm is incompatible with Internet Connection
> Sharing on the host computer. To use XP as the host, you'll have to
> uninstall ZoneAlarm on XP. XP's built-in Windows Firewall gives the
> protection you need.
>
> Yes, you can have the modem in the Win98 computer. Win98 doesn't have
> a built-in Internet sharing capability -- that requires ICS or a
> similar third-party program.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>

Steve - thanks for the help and the website

John

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:21:05 -0500, "MEB" <meb@not here.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Ah sorry Steve, not challenging you or anything, but you indicate XP's
>firewall is enough. It doesn't appear to be:
>
>http://www.firewallleaktester.com/index.html
>
> There are several other testing sites that rank XP's firewall poorly on
>their lists as well.

I'd like to kknow more about this. Where do I go on that site to find
information about XP's firewall?
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

"Steve Winograd" <bc070521m DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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| On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 00:21:05 -0500, "MEB" <meb@not here DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
| wrote:
|
| > Ah sorry Steve, not challenging you or anything, but you indicate XP's
| >firewall is enough. It doesn't appear to be:
| >
| >http://www.firewallleaktester.com/index.html
| >
| > There are several other testing sites that rank XP's firewall poorly on
| >their lists as well.
|
| I'd like to kknow more about this. Where do I go on that site to find
| information about XP's firewall?
| --
| Best Wishes,
| Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
|
| Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Pick which group of tests you wish to view on the side panel, view the
testing procedure page, and then click the provided link to view the
results. Note, you must allow a cookie.

As an alternative, you can download the test tools -click the tool wanted -
and produce your own results [IIRC].

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