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Jamie Benson

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Since: Jan 26, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:49 am
Post subject: Wireless Problem with Windows 98SE
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>win98>networking (more info?)

I have a PC that is running 98SE and it is giving me issues connecting
to our wireless network here at my place of business. We have maybe 25
other machines that are all running 98SE and our connected to the
network fine. The PC I am having issues with can associate to the AP,
but can not authenticate. It has a Cisco Aironet 350 PCI card. I KNOW
that the AP settings are fine since the other PC's are being
cooperative. This PC is new to the wireless network, but has been
working fine with it wired into the network. The settings are the same
as every other PC that is working and TCP/IP is bound to the Aironet
card. If anyone has seen anything like this before or has any ideas I
would be super appreciative. Thanks!!

Jami Benson
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Gary S. Terhune

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Wireless Problem with Windows 98SE [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

From the previous thread in this group, "Having issues with WINIPCFG", a
solution suggested by MS-MVP Steve Winograd to rebuild the TCP/IP stack:

"Try this procedure to repair TCP/IP, even if you don't use Dial-Up
Networking. It's a subset of the full procedure for removing and
re-installing the TCP/IP stack shown here:

"Fatal Error" Error Message Occurs When You Run WINIPCFG
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/286748/en-us

I've found the subset to be effective in fixing many TCP/IP problems.

1. Un-install Internet Connection Sharing (if installed).
2. Un-install Dial-Up Networking. Don't reboot.
3. Delete registry key HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock2
4. Re-install Dial-Up Networking. Reboot.
5. Re-install Internet Connection Sharing (if desired).

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP -- Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Jamie Benson" <JamiLuvsNascar20.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169830151.872729.280510@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I have a PC that is running 98SE and it is giving me issues connecting
> to our wireless network here at my place of business. We have maybe 25
> other machines that are all running 98SE and our connected to the
> network fine. The PC I am having issues with can associate to the AP,
> but can not authenticate. It has a Cisco Aironet 350 PCI card. I KNOW
> that the AP settings are fine since the other PC's are being
> cooperative. This PC is new to the wireless network, but has been
> working fine with it wired into the network. The settings are the same
> as every other PC that is working and TCP/IP is bound to the Aironet
> card. If anyone has seen anything like this before or has any ideas I
> would be super appreciative. Thanks!!
>
> Jami Benson
>
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Jamie Benson

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:38 am
Post subject: Re: Wireless Problem with Windows 98SE [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Gary,
Thank you very much for your response to my issue. I rebuilt the
TCP/IP stack via the instructions the MS KB article and I am still
unable to connect to the Internet or my network here at work. Are
there any other KB articles you could suggest or any further
suggestions you or anyone else anyone else may have? I really
appreciate your input.

Jami Benson

On Jan 26, 9:01 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystn... RemoveThis @mvps.org> wrote:
> From the previous thread in this group, "Having issues with WINIPCFG", a
> solution suggested by MS-MVP Steve Winograd to rebuild the TCP/IP stack:
>
> "Try this procedure to repair TCP/IP, even if you don't use Dial-Up
> Networking. It's a subset of the full procedure for removing and
> re-installing the TCP/IP stack shown here:
>
> "Fatal Error" Error Message Occurs When You Run WINIPCFGhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/286748/en-us
>
> I've found the subset to be effective in fixing many TCP/IP problems.
>
> 1. Un-install Internet Connection Sharing (if installed).
> 2. Un-install Dial-Up Networking. Don't reboot.
> 3. Delete registry key HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock2
> 4. Re-install Dial-Up Networking. Reboot.
> 5. Re-install Internet Connection Sharing (if desired).
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP -- Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htmhttp://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Jamie Benson" <JamiLuvsNasca... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1169830151.872729.280510@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I have a PC that is running 98SE and it is giving me issues connecting
> > to our wireless network here at my place of business. We have maybe 25
> > other machines that are all running 98SE and our connected to the
> > network fine. The PC I am having issues with can associate to the AP,
> > but can not authenticate. It has a Cisco Aironet 350 PCI card. I KNOW
> > that the AP settings are fine since the other PC's are being
> > cooperative. This PC is new to the wireless network, but has been
> > working fine with it wired into the network. The settings are the same
> > as every other PC that is working and TCP/IP is bound to the Aironet
> > card. If anyone has seen anything like this before or has any ideas I
> > would be super appreciative. Thanks!!
>
> > Jami Benson
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Gary S. Terhune

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:08 am
Post subject: Re: Wireless Problem with Windows 98SE [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Not me. I shot my wad with that one. Steve is the most knowledgeable one
here, usually. If he doesn't stop in to this thread soon, consider
reposting, and also consider posting to the following NG, since it will have
the most number of networking gurus attending (outside of domain admin types
in the server groups, which you might also want to check out.) These folks
didn't start doing this stuff only a couple of years ago with XP/2003 and
wireless. They've been doing networking for years and know it inside out.

microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web

My last suggestion is to get a real newsreader like Outlook Express or Forte
Agent, etc., to make finding and reading these NGs a lot easier. If you
already have OE installed, click here:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP -- Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Jamie Benson" <JamiLuvsNascar20 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170088726.592468.4130@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> Gary,
> Thank you very much for your response to my issue. I rebuilt the
> TCP/IP stack via the instructions the MS KB article and I am still
> unable to connect to the Internet or my network here at work. Are
> there any other KB articles you could suggest or any further
> suggestions you or anyone else anyone else may have? I really
> appreciate your input.
>
> Jami Benson
>
> On Jan 26, 9:01 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystn... RemoveThis @mvps.org> wrote:
> > From the previous thread in this group, "Having issues with WINIPCFG", a
> > solution suggested by MS-MVP Steve Winograd to rebuild the TCP/IP stack:
> >
> > "Try this procedure to repair TCP/IP, even if you don't use Dial-Up
> > Networking. It's a subset of the full procedure for removing and
> > re-installing the TCP/IP stack shown here:
> >
> > "Fatal Error" Error Message Occurs When You Run
WINIPCFGhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/286748/en-us
> >
> > I've found the subset to be effective in fixing many TCP/IP problems.
> >
> > 1. Un-install Internet Connection Sharing (if installed).
> > 2. Un-install Dial-Up Networking. Don't reboot.
> > 3. Delete registry key HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock2
> > 4. Re-install Dial-Up Networking. Reboot.
> > 5. Re-install Internet Connection Sharing (if desired).
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP --
Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htmhttp://grystmill.com/ar
ticles/security.htm
> >
> > "Jamie Benson" <JamiLuvsNasca... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:1169830151.872729.280510@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > I have a PC that is running 98SE and it is giving me issues connecting
> > > to our wireless network here at my place of business. We have maybe 25
> > > other machines that are all running 98SE and our connected to the
> > > network fine. The PC I am having issues with can associate to the AP,
> > > but can not authenticate. It has a Cisco Aironet 350 PCI card. I KNOW
> > > that the AP settings are fine since the other PC's are being
> > > cooperative. This PC is new to the wireless network, but has been
> > > working fine with it wired into the network. The settings are the same
> > > as every other PC that is working and TCP/IP is bound to the Aironet
> > > card. If anyone has seen anything like this before or has any ideas I
> > > would be super appreciative. Thanks!!
> >
> > > Jami Benson
>
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Jamie Benson

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:11 am
Post subject: Re: Wireless Problem with Windows 98SE [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Well thanks for the info anyways. I will give it a few more days on
here and then post in the group you suggested. Thanks again for your
help! Have a good one.

Jami

On Jan 29, 11:08 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystn....TakeThisOut@mvps.org> wrote:
> Not me. I shot my wad with that one. Steve is the most knowledgeable one
> here, usually. If he doesn't stop in to this thread soon, consider
> reposting, and also consider posting to the following NG, since it will have
> the most number of networking gurus attending (outside of domain admin types
> in the server groups, which you might also want to check out.) These folks
> didn't start doing this stuff only a couple of years ago with XP/2003 and
> wireless. They've been doing networking for years and know it inside out.
>
> microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
>
> My last suggestion is to get a real newsreader like Outlook Express or Forte
> Agent, etc., to make finding and reading these NGs a lot easier. If you
> already have OE installed, click here:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP -- Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htmhttp://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "Jamie Benson" <JamiLuvsNasca....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1170088726.592468.4130@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Gary,
> > Thank you very much for your response to my issue. I rebuilt the
> > TCP/IP stack via the instructions the MS KB article and I am still
> > unable to connect to the Internet or my network here at work. Are
> > there any other KB articles you could suggest or any further
> > suggestions you or anyone else anyone else may have? I really
> > appreciate your input.
>
> > Jami Benson
>
> > On Jan 26, 9:01 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystn....TakeThisOut@mvps.org> wrote:
> > > From the previous thread in this group, "Having issues with WINIPCFG", a
> > > solution suggested by MS-MVP Steve Winograd to rebuild the TCP/IP stack:
>
> > > "Try this procedure to repair TCP/IP, even if you don't use Dial-Up
> > > Networking. It's a subset of the full procedure for removing and
> > > re-installing the TCP/IP stack shown here:
>
> > > "Fatal Error" Error Message Occurs When You RunWINIPCFGhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/286748/en-us
>
> > > I've found the subset to be effective in fixing many TCP/IP problems.
>
> > > 1. Un-install Internet Connection Sharing (if installed).
> > > 2. Un-install Dial-Up Networking. Don't reboot.
> > > 3. Delete registry key HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock2
> > > 4. Re-install Dial-Up Networking. Reboot.
> > > 5. Re-install Internet Connection Sharing (if desired).
>
> > > --
> > > Gary S. Terhune
> > > MS MVP --Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htmhttp://grystmill.com/ar
> ticles/security.htm
>
> > > "Jamie Benson" <JamiLuvsNasca....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote inmessagenews:1169830151.872729.280510@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > > > I have a PC that is running 98SE and it is giving me issues connecting
> > > > to our wireless network here at my place of business. We have maybe 25
> > > > other machines that are all running 98SE and our connected to the
> > > > network fine. The PC I am having issues with can associate to the AP,
> > > > but can not authenticate. It has a Cisco Aironet 350 PCI card. I KNOW
> > > > that the AP settings are fine since the other PC's are being
> > > > cooperative. This PC is new to the wireless network, but has been
> > > > working fine with it wired into the network. The settings are the same
> > > > as every other PC that is working and TCP/IP is bound to the Aironet
> > > > card. If anyone has seen anything like this before or has any ideas I
> > > > would be super appreciative. Thanks!!
>
> > > > Jami Benson
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MEB

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Wireless Problem with Windows 98SE [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Gary's suggestion for DUN and Winipcfg were relevant, possibly other issues
may also apply.

You might have residual settings from the old hard wired networking
conflicting with your new attempted wireless. Also, if your running a
firewall and/or some AV progs, it would be prudent to make sure they are not
interfering.

If it is no longer connected through hard wire:
Delete all networking in Control Panel > Network, then reinstall for your
adapter, making sure you have configured TCP/IP, DNS, Gateway, and other,
for the new wireless network. Also make sure you are using the correct
protocol, size and related, and security, compared with the other computers,
and router and/or wireless server.

Also make sure your hosts [or lmhosts] file [if using] has allowed
connection or is otherwise not interferring.
Additionally, ensure your workgroup and server name for the target 98 box
are part of the wireless network.

That referenced News Group by Gary, has 4654 headings, rather duanting, so
rather than looking for already supplied answers, post a new query if
necessary, should you choose to go there for answers. You could attempt a
search for related and relevant articles.

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Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if
nothing had happen." Winston Churchill
Or to put it another way:
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but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one.
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"Jamie Benson" <JamiLuvsNascar20.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170094285.475607.263530@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Well thanks for the info anyways. I will give it a few more days on
| here and then post in the group you suggested. Thanks again for your
| help! Have a good one.
|
| Jami
|
| On Jan 29, 11:08 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystn....DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote:
| > Not me. I shot my wad with that one. Steve is the most knowledgeable one
| > here, usually. If he doesn't stop in to this thread soon, consider
| > reposting, and also consider posting to the following NG, since it will
have
| > the most number of networking gurus attending (outside of domain admin
types
| > in the server groups, which you might also want to check out.) These
folks
| > didn't start doing this stuff only a couple of years ago with XP/2003
and
| > wireless. They've been doing networking for years and know it inside
out.
| >
| > microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
| >
| > My last suggestion is to get a real newsreader like Outlook Express or
Forte
| > Agent, etc., to make finding and reading these NGs a lot easier. If you
| > already have OE installed, click here:
| > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
| >
| > --
| > Gary S. Terhune
| > MS MVP --
Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htmhttp://grystmill.com/ar
ticles/security.htm
| >
| > "Jamie Benson" <JamiLuvsNasca....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:1170088726.592468.4130@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
| >
| > > Gary,
| > > Thank you very much for your response to my issue. I rebuilt the
| > > TCP/IP stack via the instructions the MS KB article and I am still
| > > unable to connect to the Internet or my network here at work. Are
| > > there any other KB articles you could suggest or any further
| > > suggestions you or anyone else anyone else may have? I really
| > > appreciate your input.
| >
| > > Jami Benson
| >
| > > On Jan 26, 9:01 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystn....DeleteThis@mvps.org> wrote:
| > > > From the previous thread in this group, "Having issues with
WINIPCFG", a
| > > > solution suggested by MS-MVP Steve Winograd to rebuild the TCP/IP
stack:
| >
| > > > "Try this procedure to repair TCP/IP, even if you don't use Dial-Up
| > > > Networking. It's a subset of the full procedure for removing and
| > > > re-installing the TCP/IP stack shown here:
| >
| > > > "Fatal Error" Error Message Occurs When You
RunWINIPCFGhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/286748/en-us
| >
| > > > I've found the subset to be effective in fixing many TCP/IP
problems.
| >
| > > > 1. Un-install Internet Connection Sharing (if installed).
| > > > 2. Un-install Dial-Up Networking. Don't reboot.
| > > > 3. Delete registry key
HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Winsock2
| > > > 4. Re-install Dial-Up Networking. Reboot.
| > > > 5. Re-install Internet Connection Sharing (if desired).
| >
| > > > --
| > > > Gary S. Terhune
| > > > MS
MVP --Shell/Userhttp://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htmhttp://grystmill.
com/ar
| > ticles/security.htm
| >
| > > > "Jamie Benson" <JamiLuvsNasca....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote
inmessagenews:1169830151.872729.280510@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| >
| >
| >
| > > > > I have a PC that is running 98SE and it is giving me issues
connecting
| > > > > to our wireless network here at my place of business. We have
maybe 25
| > > > > other machines that are all running 98SE and our connected to the
| > > > > network fine. The PC I am having issues with can associate to the
AP,
| > > > > but can not authenticate. It has a Cisco Aironet 350 PCI card. I
KNOW
| > > > > that the AP settings are fine since the other PC's are being
| > > > > cooperative. This PC is new to the wireless network, but has been
| > > > > working fine with it wired into the network. The settings are the
same
| > > > > as every other PC that is working and TCP/IP is bound to the
Aironet
| > > > > card. If anyone has seen anything like this before or has any
ideas I
| > > > > would be super appreciative. Thanks!!
| >
| > > > > Jami Benson
|
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:45 pm
Post subject: Re: Wireless Problem with Windows 98SE [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 26 Jan 2007 08:49:11 -0800, "Jamie Benson"
<JamiLuvsNascar20.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

>It has a Cisco Aironet 350 PCI card. I KNOW
>that the AP settings are fine since the other PC's are being
>cooperative.

Do all the other 98se machines use this network card?

If circumstances allow, can you temporarily switch off encryption on
the AP and the misbehaving pc to see if that works okay.


Jim.
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Jamie Benson

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:30 am
Post subject: Re: Wireless Problem with Windows 98SE [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jan 29, 2:45 pm, James Egan <j... DeleteThis @jegan.com> wrote:
> On 26 Jan 2007 08:49:11 -0800, "Jamie Benson"
>
> <JamiLuvsNasca... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> >It has a Cisco Aironet 350 PCI card. I KNOW
> >that the AP settings are fine since the other PC's are being
> >cooperative.
>
> Do all the other 98se machines use this network card?
>
> If circumstances allow, can you temporarily switch off encryption on
> the AP and the misbehaving pc to see if that works okay.
>
> Jim.

MEB and Jim,
Thanks to the both of you for the suggestions. I removed all the
previous wired information before I installed the wireless card. The
settings are set correctly to match all of the other PC's that operate
on the wireless portion of our network. The IP is correct and the TCP/
IP settings also look to be correct. The hosts file is not interfering
as far as I can tell. All of the wireless machines use the same Cisco
Aironet 350 card and are working like a charm. Switching off
encryption hasn't been tried yet, but I have been ultra busy. I will
try that here soon but just wanted to thank you and clarify other
things that were asked. Thanks again for all the help so far.

Jami Benson
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