(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:53 am
Post subject: Re: Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsme>networking (more info?)
Mart / Mike,
Thanks for your help guys.
I came to this forum having had a frustrating experience with the Orange
Helpline with responses like " it must be trouble with your dongle / PCICMA
card - you need to talk to the manufacturer".
I tried the Orange e-mail support yesterday (with a summary of all of our
investigations / trials) and got the following reply:
<quote>
Thank you for your email.
We understand your concern.
You cannot have a wireless connection with Livebox for Windows ME,
however you can have a wired connection with it.
You can follow the link below for more help on wired connection:
If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in
contact with us again.
Kind Regards
</quote>
I think I will be looking for another Broadband provider when this contract
expires.
Thanks,
Robin
"Mart" wrote:
> Sorry it was unsuccessful Robin. As I said, I'm not really into Networking,
> but it had to be worth a try.
>
> Good luck
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "Robin CB" <RobinCB.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0F7EE633-6886-4F10-BD6C-73D2482B498C@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks Guys,
> >
> > I tried Mart's suggestion and found 2 devices in the history (in addition
> > to
> > my main XP machine) and removed them.
> >
> > I'm afraid it hasn't allowed connection though.
> >
> > Robin
> >
> >
> > "Mike M" wrote:
> >
> >> Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm not really into Networking but your problem sounds similar to a
> >> > couple experiences I had with my BT HomeHub router. I found that if a
> >> > working dongle or PCMCIA card on one PC was transferred to another,
> >> > like yours it could see the router but wouldn't shake hands.
> >> >
> >> > I ended up by 'removing' or Deleting it/them from the list of
> >> > (previously) detected devices under the Configuration settings of the
> >> > Router (using another PC) and then let the router re-detect the
> >> > dongle/PCMCIA card and set it up again.
> >> >
> >> > I never bothered to work out why, but did wonder if it had something
> >> > to do with possibly duplicated Physical or IP address settings. All
> >> > other (working) wireless/USB devices showed unique addresses.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry if it doesn't relate, but it did work here. Good luck.
> >>
> >> An interesting observation Mart and a very different experience from my
> >> own. My current router (SpeedTouch 585v6 v6.1.4.3 firmware [later
> >> firmware exists but does not support telnet access]) keeps a history of
> >> all attached devices, last allocated IP address (if variable) and in the
> >> case of wired hardware, the router port to which last connected. In fact
> >> this is perhaps one of its better implemented features.
> >>
> >> Let's hope this helps Robin with his problem.
> >> --
> >> Mike Maltby
> >> mike.maltby.DeleteThis@gmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:50 am
Post subject: Re: Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Robin,
Thanks for posting back however to be honest I'm not sure I believe what
Orange are saying. Please keep and eye on this NG as I've pinged someone
called Steve Winograd and asked him to have a look at this thread and see
if he can help. Steve's forgotten more about networking than I've ever
known so it is possible that he may be able to help you.
> I think I will be looking for another Broadband provider when this
> contract expires.
Have a look at ThnikBroaband for UK ADSL suggestions. As for Orange I
can't help but note the various negative comments about their service
posted in response to the article "Orange Broadband sales drop by half "
(http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/i/3527.html) such as "Worst provider I
have ever been with. Regular problems, diabolically useless 'customer
service' and slow connection." (weasle).
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.RemoveThis@gmail.com
Robin CB <RobinCB.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Mart / Mike,
>
> Thanks for your help guys.
>
> I came to this forum having had a frustrating experience with the
> Orange Helpline with responses like " it must be trouble with your
> dongle / PCICMA card - you need to talk to the manufacturer".
>
> I tried the Orange e-mail support yesterday (with a summary of all of
> our investigations / trials) and got the following reply:
>
>
> <quote>
>
>
> Thank you for your email.
>
> We understand your concern.
>
> You cannot have a wireless connection with Livebox for Windows ME,
> however you can have a wired connection with it.
>
> You can follow the link below for more help on wired connection:
>
> http://help.orange.co.uk/sessionBegin.do?solutionId=kb4645 >
> If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in
> contact with us again.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> </quote>
>
>
> I think I will be looking for another Broadband provider when this
> contract expires.
(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:16 am
Post subject: Re: Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Thanks Mike,
Much appreciated.
I must say that my expoerience with Orange hasn't always been like this -
when I first set up my XP PC last summer I had a minor issue connecting, but
the helpline were actually rally helpful. I don't know what has happened,
but two calls this week and the e-mail are much more consistent with the
comments on the link you posted. A real disappointment.
Anyway - lets hope the e-mail is wrong and Steve can magic a solution.
Cheers,
Robin
"Mike M" wrote:
> Robin,
>
> Thanks for posting back however to be honest I'm not sure I believe what
> Orange are saying. Please keep and eye on this NG as I've pinged someone
> called Steve Winograd and asked him to have a look at this thread and see
> if he can help. Steve's forgotten more about networking than I've ever
> known so it is possible that he may be able to help you.
>
> > I think I will be looking for another Broadband provider when this
> > contract expires.
>
> Have a look at ThnikBroaband for UK ADSL suggestions. As for Orange I
> can't help but note the various negative comments about their service
> posted in response to the article "Orange Broadband sales drop by half "
> (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/i/3527.html) such as "Worst provider I
> have ever been with. Regular problems, diabolically useless 'customer
> service' and slow connection." (weasle).
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby.RemoveThis@gmail.com
>
>
(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Your link to the kb article won't open here Robin, hangs at about 95%. I'm
pleased to see that Mike's already pinged Steve Winograd - who sometimes
looks in at this News Group. I was expecting that he might have spotted your
problem.
"Robin CB" <RobinCB DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FE1CC0C9-50AF-43B3-BD01-35AD43CC87B9@microsoft.com...
> Mart / Mike,
>
> Thanks for your help guys.
>
> I came to this forum having had a frustrating experience with the Orange
> Helpline with responses like " it must be trouble with your dongle /
> PCICMA
> card - you need to talk to the manufacturer".
>
> I tried the Orange e-mail support yesterday (with a summary of all of our
> investigations / trials) and got the following reply:
>
>
> <quote>
>
>
> Thank you for your email.
>
> We understand your concern.
>
> You cannot have a wireless connection with Livebox for Windows ME,
> however you can have a wired connection with it.
>
> You can follow the link below for more help on wired connection:
>
> http://help.orange.co.uk/sessionBegin.do?solutionId=kb4645 >
> If you have any further queries then please do not hesitate to get in
> contact with us again.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> </quote>
>
>
> I think I will be looking for another Broadband provider when this
> contract
> expires.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robin
>
>
> "Mart" wrote:
>
>> Sorry it was unsuccessful Robin. As I said, I'm not really into
>> Networking,
>> but it had to be worth a try.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robin CB" <RobinCB DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0F7EE633-6886-4F10-BD6C-73D2482B498C@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks Guys,
>> >
>> > I tried Mart's suggestion and found 2 devices in the history (in
>> > addition
>> > to
>> > my main XP machine) and removed them.
>> >
>> > I'm afraid it hasn't allowed connection though.
>> >
>> > Robin
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mike M" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I'm not really into Networking but your problem sounds similar to a
>> >> > couple experiences I had with my BT HomeHub router. I found that if
>> >> > a
>> >> > working dongle or PCMCIA card on one PC was transferred to another,
>> >> > like yours it could see the router but wouldn't shake hands.
>> >> >
>> >> > I ended up by 'removing' or Deleting it/them from the list of
>> >> > (previously) detected devices under the Configuration settings of
>> >> > the
>> >> > Router (using another PC) and then let the router re-detect the
>> >> > dongle/PCMCIA card and set it up again.
>> >> >
>> >> > I never bothered to work out why, but did wonder if it had something
>> >> > to do with possibly duplicated Physical or IP address settings. All
>> >> > other (working) wireless/USB devices showed unique addresses.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry if it doesn't relate, but it did work here. Good luck.
>> >>
>> >> An interesting observation Mart and a very different experience from
>> >> my
>> >> own. My current router (SpeedTouch 585v6 v6.1.4.3 firmware [later
>> >> firmware exists but does not support telnet access]) keeps a history
>> >> of
>> >> all attached devices, last allocated IP address (if variable) and in
>> >> the
>> >> case of wired hardware, the router port to which last connected. In
>> >> fact
>> >> this is perhaps one of its better implemented features.
>> >>
>> >> Let's hope this helps Robin with his problem.
>> >> --
>> >> Mike Maltby
>> >> mike.maltby DeleteThis @gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Hi Mart,
I'm hoping too
Interesting article that you linked to - not me I'm afraid. I was a late
convert to Broadband - still on dialup until last summer.
The link to Orange seems to be working now - not that it helps (or tells
you) much.
Cheers,
Robin
"Mart" wrote:
> Your link to the kb article won't open here Robin, hangs at about 95%. I'm
> pleased to see that Mike's already pinged Steve Winograd - who sometimes
> looks in at this News Group. I was expecting that he might have spotted your
> problem.
>
> However, I found the following (a few years old) which might be of
> interest - and wondered if Robbain might have been you?
> http://forum.caithness.org/archive/index.php/t-15902.html >
> Mart
>
>
(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:44 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:50:57 +0100, "Mike M" <No_Spam RemoveThis @Corned_Beef.Only>
wrote:
>Thanks for posting back however to be honest I'm not sure I believe what
>Orange are saying. Please keep and eye on this NG as I've pinged someone
>called Steve Winograd and asked him to have a look at this thread and see
>if he can help. Steve's forgotten more about networking than I've ever
>known so it is possible that he may be able to help you.
Hi Robin and Mike,
I've been following this thread, but I hadn't jumped in because I
don't know what's wrong or how to fix it.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:46 am
Post subject: Re: Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Steve,
Thanks for jumping in. Mike says you're the man, so I guess we have to
believe Orange when they say the Livebox won't work with Me.
Time to re-think, I think.
Cheers,
Robin
"Steve Winograd" wrote:
> On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:50:57 +0100, "Mike M" <No_Spam DeleteThis @Corned_Beef.Only>
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for posting back however to be honest I'm not sure I believe what
> >Orange are saying. Please keep and eye on this NG as I've pinged someone
> >called Steve Winograd and asked him to have a look at this thread and see
> >if he can help. Steve's forgotten more about networking than I've ever
> >known so it is possible that he may be able to help you.
>
> Hi Robin and Mike,
>
> I've been following this thread, but I hadn't jumped in because I
> don't know what's wrong or how to fix it.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com >
(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:43 am
Post subject: Re: Windows ME and Wireless Networking - Failure to Connect [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Well, sadly the responses aren't too helpful so far Robin, so just a couple
of further thoughts. Are you able to connect your laptop to another wireless
router rather than your Orange Router (a friends for example)?
I also (fairly recently) saw somewhere a reference to an MS KB article
regarding issues with Wifi adapters (USB 2.0?) and WinMe, but can no longer
locate the reference. Might be worth a trawl thru' the KB - or even Google.
Good luck
Mart
"Robin CB" <RobinCB RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2E7F25F1-2E3B-454E-8677-762BBB37A6B4@microsoft.com...
> Hi Mart,
>
> I'm hoping too >
> Interesting article that you linked to - not me I'm afraid. I was a late
> convert to Broadband - still on dialup until last summer.
>
> The link to Orange seems to be working now - not that it helps (or tells
> you) much.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Robin
>
>
> "Mart" wrote:
>
>> Your link to the kb article won't open here Robin, hangs at about 95%.
>> I'm
>> pleased to see that Mike's already pinged Steve Winograd - who sometimes
>> looks in at this News Group. I was expecting that he might have spotted
>> your
>> problem.
>>
>> However, I found the following (a few years old) which might be of
>> interest - and wondered if Robbain might have been you?
>> http://forum.caithness.org/archive/index.php/t-15902.html >>
>> Mart
>>
>>
>
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