Windows Explorer suddenly doesn't open at startup

Lee wrote:
> On Aug 15, 7:07 pm, "PCR" <pcr....DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote:
>> Etal wrote:
>> > PCR wrote:
>>
>> >> Etal wrote:
>>
>> >>> I may misremember but i /think/ there is a User Interface
>> >>> for the 'PersistBrowsers' setting under 'Folder Options, View
>> >>> tab' on an original installed of Win98SE (perhaps named 'Restore
>> >>> previous folder windows at logon' like it is called under WinXP
>> >>> where the option exists with IE 6.x installed ) but that some
>> >>> update from ms makes that disappear .. possibly updating from IE
>> >>> 5.x to IE 6.x. (I am not at all certain about this.)
>>
>> >> Well, I don't see any "Restore previous..." there & don't recall
>> >> ever seeing it. However, it's possible I never did look before
>> >> doing the updates. I also don't see it in the Advanced tab of
>> >> Internet Options. It was good of you to remember that Registry
>> >> key.
>>
>> > True or not, it won't explain the recent change in behavior for
>> > the other two thread participants.
>>
>> Something extraordinary must have happened to them that hasn't
>> happened to me yet. Maybe they've activated some security feature
>> that had a side effect. I'm still waiting to hear whether either has
>> been cured.
>>
>> --
>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>> Should things get worse after this,
>> PCR
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>
> Extraordinary might not be the proper word to use here, but perhaps
> TweakUI has been disabled from running at startup as it is set up to
> do on my machine and probably yours with the line in msconfig|Startup
> Tab that goes something like:
>
> Tweak UI RUNDLL32.EXE TWEAKUI.CPL,TweakMeUp

I've never been a user of TweakUI, because I saw cautions against it at
the time of consideration. It was said MS no longer supported it, &
there was a list of settings dangerous to use. I chose to use...
http://www.xteq.com
X-Setup
....which did Registry tweaks & more. Subsequently, I've uninstalled even
that, thinking it was too large with tentacles in unwanted places. But
it showed one the coding of every tweak & was a great teaching tool.

> Just to jolt memories that comes from the registry here:
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
>
> I didn't find any inf files installing the persistbrowsers entry so
> that might just be hard coded into tweakui.cpl to write that entry
> directly into the registry.

I couldn't have gotten it that way. I may have picked it up from X-Setup
or from "Windows 98 Secrets" (Livingston/Straub).

> But only TweakUI will pay any attention
> to the entry since it's NOT part of Windows proper. Unless TweakUI is
> invoked at startup, the browser window(s) is NOT re-opened over the
> re- boot event, I doubt the browser window(s) information is even
> being saved in the registry over the reboot either.

That can't be the only way. I've now removed PersistBrowsers...

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Ad
vanced]
"PersistBrowsers"=dword:00000001

....& will know for sure next boot whether that's it.

> I seem to remember this same issue and symptoms a long, long time
> ago...
> If so, then the fix would be to just install TweakUI again to insure
> the proper registry entries are put in place again. I do disremember
> what exact widget didn't like TweakUI running back then, I assume that
> there is more than one.

There's yet another caution against it!


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There may be humor in this post, and,
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Should things get worse after this,
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PCR wrote:
> Lee wrote:
>> On Aug 15, 7:07 pm, "PCR" <pcr... DeleteThis @netzero.net> wrote:
>>> Etal wrote:
>>> > PCR wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Etal wrote:
>>>
>>> >>> I may misremember but i /think/ there is a User Interface
>>> >>> for the 'PersistBrowsers' setting under 'Folder Options, View
>>> >>> tab' on an original installed of Win98SE (perhaps named 'Restore
>>> >>> previous folder windows at logon' like it is called under WinXP
>>> >>> where the option exists with IE 6.x installed ) but that some
>>> >>> update from ms makes that disappear .. possibly updating from IE
>>> >>> 5.x to IE 6.x. (I am not at all certain about this.)
>>>
>>> >> Well, I don't see any "Restore previous..." there & don't recall
>>> >> ever seeing it. However, it's possible I never did look before
>>> >> doing the updates. I also don't see it in the Advanced tab of
>>> >> Internet Options. It was good of you to remember that Registry
>>> >> key.
>>>
>>> > True or not, it won't explain the recent change in behavior for
>>> > the other two thread participants.
>>>
>>> Something extraordinary must have happened to them that hasn't
>>> happened to me yet. Maybe they've activated some security feature
>>> that had a side effect. I'm still waiting to hear whether either has
>>> been cured.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>> Should things get worse after this,
>>> PCR
>>> pcr... DeleteThis @netzero.net- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Extraordinary might not be the proper word to use here, but perhaps
>> TweakUI has been disabled from running at startup as it is set up to
>> do on my machine and probably yours with the line in msconfig|Startup
>> Tab that goes something like:
>>
>> Tweak UI RUNDLL32.EXE TWEAKUI.CPL,TweakMeUp
>
> I've never been a user of TweakUI, because I saw cautions against it
> at the time of consideration. It was said MS no longer supported it, &
> there was a list of settings dangerous to use. I chose to use...
> http://www.xteq.com
> X-Setup
> ...which did Registry tweaks & more. Subsequently, I've uninstalled
> even that, thinking it was too large with tentacles in unwanted
> places. But it showed one the coding of every tweak & was a great
> teaching tool.
>
>> Just to jolt memories that comes from the registry here:
>> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
>>
>> I didn't find any inf files installing the persistbrowsers entry so
>> that might just be hard coded into tweakui.cpl to write that entry
>> directly into the registry.
>
> I couldn't have gotten it that way. I may have picked it up from
> X-Setup or from "Windows 98 Secrets" (Livingston/Straub).
>
>> But only TweakUI will pay any attention
>> to the entry since it's NOT part of Windows proper. Unless TweakUI
>> is invoked at startup, the browser window(s) is NOT re-opened over
>> the re- boot event, I doubt the browser window(s) information is even
>> being saved in the registry over the reboot either.
>
> That can't be the only way. I've now removed PersistBrowsers...
>
>
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Ad
> vanced]
> "PersistBrowsers"=dword:00000001
>
> ...& will know for sure next boot whether that's it.

UPDATE: Yep, removing that key caused open folders not to open at
reboot. They also failed to open when the following was added...

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Ex
plorer]
"NoSaveSettings"=hex:01,00,00,00

SO... the 1st must be present & the 2nd must not. That's that.

>
>> I seem to remember this same issue and symptoms a long, long time
>> ago...
>> If so, then the fix would be to just install TweakUI again to insure
>> the proper registry entries are put in place again. I do disremember
>> what exact widget didn't like TweakUI running back then, I assume
>> that there is more than one.
>
> There's yet another caution against it!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp DeleteThis @netzero.net