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Weird problem with wallpaper in winnt 4.0

 
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John John

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:05 pm
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Crazybob wrote:

> Calvin <nospam.RemoveThis@spamcop.net> wrote:
>
>
>>John John wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Someone on another group was writing a little program to automatically
>>>change wallpaper on their desktop at different time intervals. The
>>>program was changing the wallpaper file in the HKCU registry key but
>>>they couldn't get the wallpaper to change without a restart so they
>>>asked for help. In my search for a solution I came upon this:
>>>
>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/wine-devel@winehq.com/msg20786.html
>>>
>>>and Dave Patrick gave us this one:
>>>
>>>http://support.microsoft.com/dllhelp/?fid=204559&l=55&det=1
>>
>>Thanks for the links, will check it out !
>>
>>
>>>Another thing I am wondering with the problem at hand is; where is the
>>>wallpaper file located? Is it in the winnt folder with the other winnt
>>>and winnt256 bitmaps? Maybe the timing issue you observe might happen
>>>if the files are in another folder?
>>
>>VERY good point - in my case YES, the wallpaper files are actually
>>located in a folder called (funilly enough) 'd:\wallpape.r\' (the style
>>allows the name to fit the 8.3 naming convention)
>>
>>It may be that this problem only surfaces with the wallpaper in a folder
>>other than 'd:\winnt' - maybe CrazyBob can shed some light on this point Smile
>>
>>Calvin.
>
>
> No the bitmap file is in the winnt directory.

Grasping at straws here... What hapens if you put it in:

C:\WINNT\Web\Wallpaper

John
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Calvin

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:17 pm
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> Calvin <nospam.DeleteThis@spamcop.net> wrote:

>>VERY good point - in my case YES, the wallpaper files are actually
>>located in a folder called (funilly enough) 'd:\wallpape.r\' (the style
>>allows the name to fit the 8.3 naming convention)
>>
>>It may be that this problem only surfaces with the wallpaper in a folder
>>other than 'd:\winnt' - maybe CrazyBob can shed some light on this point Smile
>>
>>Calvin.

Crazybob wrote:

> No the bitmap file is in the winnt directory.

Damn - another fine theory down the drain - LOL

It would appear the bug is real however - it's just the exact mechanism
we've yet to pin down.

Calvin.
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Calvin

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:27 am
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Hey John,

Just noticed you seem to be transmitted a valid email address in your
newsgroup postings - probably wise if you 'mangle it' or in some other
way obscure it, lest the SPAM harvesting robots find you Sad

Calvin.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:27 am
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e-mail me and see what happens.

John

Calvin wrote:
> Hey John,
>
> Just noticed you seem to be transmitted a valid email address in your
> newsgroup postings - probably wise if you 'mangle it' or in some other
> way obscure it, lest the SPAM harvesting robots find you Sad
>
> Calvin.
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Calvin

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:02 pm
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John John wrote:
> e-mail me and see what happens.

Hehehehehehe - point taken !

Calvin.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:48 pm
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I have been letting the system finish loading stuff & settling down
before logging in & I have not seen the problem since. Interesting???
Doesn't part of the registry get copied to a user specific part? Maybe
logging in to fast before it is copied due to a busy system causes
windows to grab the default wallpaper which I think is winnt256.bmp.
Just a thought.

Bob


Calvin <nospam.DeleteThis@spamcop.net> wrote:

>PS:
>
>1. Damn Shift key :-0 - that should be NT4Ref not NT$Ref - LOL
>
>2. Other solution to problem, be a little patient at bootup, wait until
>drive activity subsides, then logon - I've never seen the problem
>happen this way.
>
>3. Yet ANOTHER bug in Explorer.exe - I find it VERY interesting (and
>highly supportive of my theory about bloat and instability) that the one
>component of NT4 that is almost _directly_ inherited from the Win95/98
>department is the component that is the biggest offender when it comes
>to SILLY BUGS.
>
>Calvin.
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Calvin

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:12 am
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Hi Bob,

I'm glad to see my 'remedy' works for you Smile Not ideal I know, but it
will do for the moment.

I'm not sure what is really happening here as to WHY the wallpaper
doesn't load - you are right however, the .default user wallpaper is set
to winnn256.bmp, so this probably how we wind up with it on our desktops !

The way the profile situation works is that the hive ntuser.dat from
your profile folder (eg: D:\winnt\profiles\username\ntuser.dat) is
copied into the registry tree as HKCurrentUser during a login, but the
weird thing is that all the other elements of the profile ARE working,
(ie: you start menu, you desktop icons and layout), so I'm left thinking
that the registry is correct, and it is the loading of wallpaper itself
that fails.

The other (vague) possibility is that when the HKCU registry is 'read'
to determine what wallpaper has been chosen, this key read fails,
producing the same results.

I'm certain it is a timing issue in any case.

The other weird thing is that this only seems to happen on SOME
machines, and I've never been able to see the element of commonality
linking them to cause this bug. (For a while there John's theory of a
wallpaper folder of other than \winnt looked promising, but you shot
that one down in flames !)

Calvin.
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