Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

MEB,
Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it are: Vista Laptop
(wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if I
can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for SPI
Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer was
connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
Network.

On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
DNS Configuration Disabled
Gateway Blank
WINS Configuration Disabled
IP Address Obtain automatically
Bindings to:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
Microsoft Family Logon

Advanced Tab
Allow binding to ATM Yes
Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.

My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
Binding to:
3COM Diagnostic
NetBEUI
TCP/IP

Advanced tab:
APM Wake Up Enabled
Early Tx Threshold 10
Link speed/duplex Auto
Link Wake up Enable
IP not present

Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0

In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems connected
to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.

I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to 192.168.5.1
with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.

I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
Martha



"MEB" wrote:

> It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and 98
> computer and start from scratch.
>
> HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the XP/VISTA/other
> box{es} up.
> First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP range
> for the local network is included and what its range is.
> Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
> connection/device from the network].
> THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
> Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND that
> the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
> Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
> protocol.
> Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
> server] that the 98 box is set [in Network Settings>TCP/IP settings] to
> receive from the network.
> Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked the
> above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
> controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
> modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is found.
> IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
> Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping returning
> address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other disabled
> apps].
>
> Check here for other ideas:
> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm
>
> Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
> Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> a Peoples' counsel
> _ _
> ~~
> "skibuz" <skibuz.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DB6EE4B9-2E66-4884-BE09-A29D86DD5657@microsoft.com...
> | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded Win
> 98.
> | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via Ethernet
> | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and play.
> | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload. Now
> I
> | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
> | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
> | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
> |
> | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this connected,
> I
> | would be very greatful!
> | Thank you!
>
>
>

I forgot to mention that there is no antivirus (yet) or firewall installed
on the Win 98SE computer.

Martha

"skibuz" wrote:

> MEB,
> Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
> addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
> have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it are: Vista Laptop
> (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if I
> can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for SPI
> Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
> firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer was
> connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
> reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
> after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
> connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
> Network.
>
> On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
> DNS Configuration Disabled
> Gateway Blank
> WINS Configuration Disabled
> IP Address Obtain automatically
> Bindings to:
> Client for Microsoft Networks
> File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
> Microsoft Family Logon
>
> Advanced Tab
> Allow binding to ATM Yes
> Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
>
> My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
> Binding to:
> 3COM Diagnostic
> NetBEUI
> TCP/IP
>
> Advanced tab:
> APM Wake Up Enabled
> Early Tx Threshold 10
> Link speed/duplex Auto
> Link Wake up Enable
> IP not present
>
> Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
> Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
> Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
>
> In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems connected
> to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
>
> I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to 192.168.5.1
> with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
> didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
>
> I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
> Martha
>
>
>
> "MEB" wrote:
>
> > It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and 98
> > computer and start from scratch.
> >
> > HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the XP/VISTA/other
> > box{es} up.
> > First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP range
> > for the local network is included and what its range is.
> > Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
> > connection/device from the network].
> > THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
> > Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND that
> > the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
> > Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
> > protocol.
> > Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
> > server] that the 98 box is set [in Network Settings>TCP/IP settings] to
> > receive from the network.
> > Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked the
> > above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
> > controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
> > modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is found.
> > IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
> > Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping returning
> > address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other disabled
> > apps].
> >
> > Check here for other ideas:
> > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm
> >
> > Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
> > Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
> >
> > --
> > MEB
> > http://peoplescounsel.org
> > a Peoples' counsel
> > _ _
> > ~~
> > "skibuz" <skibuz.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:DB6EE4B9-2E66-4884-BE09-A29D86DD5657@microsoft.com...
> > | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded Win
> > 98.
> > | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via Ethernet
> > | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and play.
> > | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload. Now
> > I
> > | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
> > | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
> > | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
> > |
> > | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this connected,
> > I
> > | would be very greatful!
> > | Thank you!
> >
> >
> >

"skibuz" <skibuz RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5A9F708F-0AF0-4BC9-A441-66C468942C33@microsoft.com...
| MEB,
| Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
| addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
| have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it are: Vista Laptop
| (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if
I
| can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for
SPI
| Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
| firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer
was
| connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
| reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
| after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
| connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
| Network.
|
| On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| DNS Configuration Disabled
| Gateway Blank
| WINS Configuration Disabled
| IP Address Obtain automatically
| Bindings to:
| Client for Microsoft Networks
| File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| Microsoft Family Logon
|
| Advanced Tab
| Allow binding to ATM Yes
| Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
|
| My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| Binding to:
| 3COM Diagnostic
| NetBEUI
| TCP/IP
|
| Advanced tab:
| APM Wake Up Enabled
| Early Tx Threshold 10
| Link speed/duplex Auto
| Link Wake up Enable
| IP not present
|
| Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0

Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try making
it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already used}.
Do this by going back into Network>HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter - TCP/IP> IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to the
manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
See if this works.

|
| In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
connected
| to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
|
| I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
192.168.5.1
| with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
| didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
|
| I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
| Martha
|


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| > It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and
98
| > computer and start from scratch.
| >
| > HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
XP/VISTA/other
| > box{es} up.
| > First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
range
| > for the local network is included and what its range is.
| > Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| > connection/device from the network].
| > THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| > Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND
that
| > the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| > Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
| > protocol.
| > Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
| > server] that the 98 box is set [in Network Settings>TCP/IP settings] to
| > receive from the network.
| > Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked
the
| > above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
| > controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
| > modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
found.
| > IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| > Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
returning
| > address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
disabled
| > apps].
| >
| > Check here for other ideas:
| > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm
| >
| > Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| > Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
| >
| > --
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > a Peoples' counsel
| > _ _
| > ~~
| > "skibuz" <skibuz RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:DB6EE4B9-2E66-4884-BE09-A29D86DD5657@microsoft.com...
| > | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded
Win
| > 98.
| > | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
Ethernet
| > | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and
play.
| > | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload.
Now
| > I
| > | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
| > | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
| > | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| > |
| > | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
connected,
| > I
| > | would be very greatful!
| > | Thank you!
| >
| >
| >

I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and it
still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and Internet
Explorer.

Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the IP/subnet
mask have been changed.

Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that what it
should be?

Thanks!
Martha

"MEB" wrote:

>
> "skibuz" <skibuz DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5A9F708F-0AF0-4BC9-A441-66C468942C33@microsoft.com...
> | MEB,
> | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
> | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
> | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it are: Vista Laptop
> | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if
> I
> | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for
> SPI
> | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
> | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer
> was
> | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
> | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
> | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
> | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
> | Network.
> |
> | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
> | DNS Configuration Disabled
> | Gateway Blank
> | WINS Configuration Disabled
> | IP Address Obtain automatically
> | Bindings to:
> | Client for Microsoft Networks
> | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
> | Microsoft Family Logon
> |
> | Advanced Tab
> | Allow binding to ATM Yes
> | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
> |
> | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
> | Binding to:
> | 3COM Diagnostic
> | NetBEUI
> | TCP/IP
> |
> | Advanced tab:
> | APM Wake Up Enabled
> | Early Tx Threshold 10
> | Link speed/duplex Auto
> | Link Wake up Enable
> | IP not present
> |
> | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
> | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
> | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
>
> Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
> It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try making
> it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already used}.
> Do this by going back into Network>HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
> Adapter - TCP/IP> IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to the
> manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
> See if this works.
>
> |
> | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
> connected
> | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
> |
> | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
> 192.168.5.1
> | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
> | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
> |
> | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
> | Martha
> |
>
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> a Peoples' counsel
> _ _
> ~~
>
> |
> |
> | "MEB" wrote:
> |
> | > It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and
> 98
> | > computer and start from scratch.
> | >
> | > HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
> XP/VISTA/other
> | > box{es} up.
> | > First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
> range
> | > for the local network is included and what its range is.
> | > Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
> | > connection/device from the network].
> | > THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
> | > Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND
> that
> | > the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
> | > Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
> | > protocol.
> | > Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
> | > server] that the 98 box is set [in Network Settings>TCP/IP settings] to
> | > receive from the network.
> | > Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked
> the
> | > above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
> | > controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
> | > modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
> found.
> | > IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
> | > Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
> returning
> | > address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
> disabled
> | > apps].
> | >
> | > Check here for other ideas:
> | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm
> | >
> | > Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
> | > Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB
> | > http://peoplescounsel.org
> | > a Peoples' counsel
> | > _ _
> | > ~~
> | > "skibuz" <skibuz DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:DB6EE4B9-2E66-4884-BE09-A29D86DD5657@microsoft.com...
> | > | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded
> Win
> | > 98.
> | > | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
> Ethernet
> | > | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and
> play.
> | > | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload.
> Now
> | > I
> | > | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
> | > | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
> | > | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
> | > |
> | > | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
> connected,
> | > I
> | > | would be very greatful!
> | > | Thank you!
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>
>

"skibuz" <skibuz RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3A0ED72E-1B82-461B-BF7C-6BCE85B8E59C@microsoft.com...
| I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and
it
| still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and Internet
| Explorer.

Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping worked.
Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN settings].
{Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}

|
| Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the IP/subnet
| mask have been changed.
|
| Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that what
it
| should be?
|
| Thanks!
| Martha

IF<<<< you have disabled ALL firewalls;
AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to refresh/find
the network if available];
AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut it off;
AND checked the browsers;
AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
- THEN -

Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD somewhere
like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices [modem,
netcard, etc]

Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI was
unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
Shutdown -
Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
Restart at least two times > reconnect the cable restart
go to Network>
re-check everything,
make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the *adapter's* TCP/IP
settings.
Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain automatically]. Save,
It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.

Run 'winipcfg' from the Start > Run menu. Use the button to get "More Info".
SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously posted.
Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a text
file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.

Should look something like this:
Ethernet adapter :

Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| >
| > "skibuz" <skibuz RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:5A9F708F-0AF0-4BC9-A441-66C468942C33@microsoft.com...
| > | MEB,
| > | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
| > | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have.
I
| > | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it are: Vista
Laptop
| > | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired
(if
| > I
| > | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled
for
| > SPI
| > | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which
has a
| > | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
computer
| > was
| > | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the
Win 98
| > | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is
only
| > | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings
correct to
| > | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on
the
| > | Network.
| > |
| > | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| > | DNS Configuration Disabled
| > | Gateway Blank
| > | WINS Configuration Disabled
| > | IP Address Obtain automatically
| > | Bindings to:
| > | Client for Microsoft Networks
| > | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| > | Microsoft Family Logon
| > |
| > | Advanced Tab
| > | Allow binding to ATM Yes
| > | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
| > |
| > | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| > | Binding to:
| > | 3COM Diagnostic
| > | NetBEUI
| > | TCP/IP
| > |
| > | Advanced tab:
| > | APM Wake Up Enabled
| > | Early Tx Threshold 10
| > | Link speed/duplex Auto
| > | Link Wake up Enable
| > | IP not present
| > |
| > | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| > | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| > | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
| >
| > Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
| > It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try
making
| > it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already
used}.
| > Do this by going back into Network>HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
| > Adapter - TCP/IP> IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to
the
| > manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
| > See if this works.
| >
| > |
| > | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
| > connected
| > | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
| > |
| > | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
| > 192.168.5.1
| > | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However
this
| > | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
| > |
| > | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
| > | Martha
| > |
| >
| >
| > --
| > MEB
| > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > a Peoples' counsel
| > _ _
| > ~~
| >
| > |
| > |
| > | "MEB" wrote:
| > |
| > | > It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP
and
| > 98
| > | > computer and start from scratch.
| > | >
| > | > HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
| > XP/VISTA/other
| > | > box{es} up.
| > | > First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
| > range
| > | > for the local network is included and what its range is.
| > | > Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| > | > connection/device from the network].
| > | > THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| > | > Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network
AND
| > that
| > | > the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| > | > Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and
TCP/IP
| > | > protocol.
| > | > Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router
or
| > | > server] that the 98 box is set [in Network Settings>TCP/IP settings]
to
| > | > receive from the network.
| > | > Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have
checked
| > the
| > | > above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the
network
| > | > controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start
the
| > | > modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
| > found.
| > | > IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| > | > Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
| > returning
| > | > address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
| > disabled
| > | > apps].
| > | >
| > | > Check here for other ideas:
| > | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm
| > | >
| > | > Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| > | > Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB
| > | > http://peoplescounsel.org
| > | > a Peoples' counsel
| > | > _ _
| > | > ~~
| > | > "skibuz" <skibuz RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:DB6EE4B9-2E66-4884-BE09-A29D86DD5657@microsoft.com...
| > | > | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and
reloaded
| > Win
| > | > 98.
| > | > | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
| > Ethernet
| > | > | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug
and
| > play.
| > | > | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the
reload.
| > Now
| > | > I
| > | > | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the
Network
| > | > | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be
different
| > | > | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| > | > |
| > | > | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
| > connected,
| > | > I
| > | > | would be very greatful!
| > | > | Thank you!
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
| >

MEB,
THAT DID IT! I can connect to the internet!!! I did what you said and
uninstalled everything under Network of the Win98 system. Then rebooted. It
discovered the new hardware and asked me to insert the disk labeled HP
EN1207D-TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter Driver. All I have are the 3 HP
System Recovery Disks. I had used the first 2 Recovery Disks to
reformat/reload Win98. The 3rd Disk said Application Recovery. I had NOT
loaded it on my reload. So, in looking for a disk that might have the
adapter drivers, I inserted the first 2 to no avail. Out of lack of anything
else to do, I inserted the 3rd disk. Up popped a folder labeled DRIVERS. So
I opened it and found the driver and installed it. Then it asked for the Win
98 SE disk. So I inserted it. Then I rebooted. And then I plugged back in
my ethernet cable to the router and fired it up. AND IT WORKED!! My best
guess is that I didn't have the driver installed to the adapter.

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
My problem is resolved thanks to you!
Martha

"MEB" wrote:

> "skibuz" <skibuz.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3A0ED72E-1B82-461B-BF7C-6BCE85B8E59C@microsoft.com...
> | I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and
> it
> | still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and Internet
> | Explorer.
>
> Did I say try the Internet? UUUMMM, not yet unless the network ping worked.
> Check in your browser to ensure they are NOT configured to Dial A
> Connection, AND they are NOT configured for proxy [under LAN settings].
> {Might be there from Anti-Virus progs or other reasons}
> NOTE what those settings were {like 127.0.0.1 port 2080}
>
> |
> | Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the IP/subnet
> | mask have been changed.
> |
> | Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
> | Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that what
> it
> | should be?
> |
> | Thanks!
> | Martha
>
> IF<<<< you have disabled ALL firewalls;
> AND checked the router config interface [make sure to try to refresh/find
> the network if available];
> AND make sure it [router] doesn't have its own firewall, if so shut it off;
> AND checked the browsers;
> AND checked the suggestions from the web page;
> AND tried the router and computer shutdowns and restarts;
> - THEN -
>
> Make sure you have your OS CD [or the files are located on your HD somewhere
> like in Options\Cabs] and the drivers needed for any network devices [modem,
> netcard, etc]
>
> Uninstall EVERYTHING found under Network on the 98 system. NetBEUI was
> unnecessary and shouldn't have been there anyway.
> Shutdown -
> Disconnect the cable to the router {sometimes you need it connected}
> reinstall the found adapter upon Startup
> Restart at least two times > reconnect the cable restart
> go to Network>
> re-check everything,
> make sure Microsoft Networking Client is installed,
> File and Printer sharing IF you intend to share files and printers,
> AND that TCP/IP was installed as protocol THEN check the *adapter's* TCP/IP
> settings.
> Write down what it shows, particularly for IP [obtain automatically]. Save,
> It should want to Shut Down and restart, let it.
>
> Run 'winipcfg' from the Start > Run menu. Use the button to get "More Info".
> SEE if it shows your adapter is in the proper range as previously posted.
> Right click on the title bar to get the "Copy" menu. SAVE that to a text
> file in case something is wrong so you can paste that into a post.
>
> Should look something like this:
> Ethernet adapter :
>
> Description . . . . . . . . : HP EN1207D-TX 10/100 Family Adapter
> Physical Address. . . . . . : ***********
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup, likely 1}
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.*{router setup likely 1}
> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : ******
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . : ******
>
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> a Peoples' counsel
> _ _
> ~~
>
> |
> | "MEB" wrote:
> |
> | >
> | > "skibuz" <skibuz.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:5A9F708F-0AF0-4BC9-A441-66C468942C33@microsoft.com...
> | > | MEB,
> | > | Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
> | > | addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have.
> I
> | > | have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it are: Vista
> Laptop
> | > | (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired
> (if
> | > I
> | > | can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled
> for
> | > SPI
> | > | Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which
> has a
> | > | firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE
> computer
> | > was
> | > | connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the
> Win 98
> | > | reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is
> only
> | > | after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings
> correct to
> | > | connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on
> the
> | > | Network.
> | > |
> | > | On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
> | > | DNS Configuration Disabled
> | > | Gateway Blank
> | > | WINS Configuration Disabled
> | > | IP Address Obtain automatically
> | > | Bindings to:
> | > | Client for Microsoft Networks
> | > | File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
> | > | Microsoft Family Logon
> | > |
> | > | Advanced Tab
> | > | Allow binding to ATM Yes
> | > | Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
> | > |
> | > | My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
> | > | Binding to:
> | > | 3COM Diagnostic
> | > | NetBEUI
> | > | TCP/IP
> | > |
> | > | Advanced tab:
> | > | APM Wake Up Enabled
> | > | Early Tx Threshold 10
> | > | Link speed/duplex Auto
> | > | Link Wake up Enable
> | > | IP not present
> | > |
> | > | Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
> | > | Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
> | > | Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0
> | >
> | > Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
> | > It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try
> making
> | > it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already
> used}.
> | > Do this by going back into Network>HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
> | > Adapter - TCP/IP> IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to
> the
> | > manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
> | > See if this works.
> | >
> | > |
> | > | In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
> | > connected
> | > | to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
> | > |
> | > | I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
> | > 192.168.5.1
> | > | with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However
> this
> | > | didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
> | > |
> | > | I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
> | > | Martha
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB
> | > http://peoplescounsel.org
> | > a Peoples' counsel
> | > _ _
> | > ~~
> | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" wrote:
> | > |
> | > | > It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP
> and
> | > 98
> | > | > computer and start from scratch.
> | > | >
> | > | > HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
> | > XP/VISTA/other
> | > | > box{es} up.
> | > | > First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
> | > range
> | > | > for the local network is included and what its range is.
> | > | > Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
> | > | > connection/device from the network].
> | > | > THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
> | > | > Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network
> AND
> | > that
> | > | > the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
> | > | > Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and
> TCP/IP
> | > | > protocol.
> | > | > Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router
> or
> | > | > server] that the 98 box is set [in Network Settings>TCP/IP settings]
> to
> | > | > receive from the network.
> | > | > Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have
> checked
> | > the
> | > | > above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the
> network
> | > | > controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start
> the
> | > | > modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
> | > found.
> | > | > IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
> | > | > Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
> | > returning
> | > | > address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
> | > disabled
> | > | > apps].
> | > | >
> | > | > Check here for other ideas:
> | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm
> | > | >
> | > | > Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
> | > | > Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB
> | > | > http://peoplescounsel.org
> | > | > a Peoples' counsel
> | > | > _ _
> | > | > ~~
> | > | > "skibuz" <skibuz.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:DB6EE4B9-2E66-4884-BE09-A29D86DD5657@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and
> reloaded
> | > Win
> | > | > 98.
> | > | > | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
> | > Ethernet
> | > | > | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug
> and
> | > play.
> | > | > | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the
> reload.
> | > Now
> | > | > I
> | > | > | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the
> Network
> | > | > | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be
> different
> | > | > | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
> | > connected,
> | > | > I
> | > | > | would be very greatful!
> | > | > | Thank you!
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
>
>
>
>
>