(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:05 am
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsme>networking (more info?)
Hi Mike,
If I were to re-install WinME over the existing Op System, is it possible
this may remove problem.However I would want to retain existing files and
programs; would this be OK?
Regards John
"Mike M" <No_Spam RemoveThis @Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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>> I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.
>
> John,
>
> Regrettably I have nothing to add to Noel's comment on the subject. All
> registry cleaners, like all domestic products from Symantec, should be
> consigned to the rubbish bin and never go near a computer.
>
> I'm at a loss as to why the driver install is hanging and not completing.
> Something is stopping it. If it were an NT based system such as XP I'd
> now be looking at registry permissions but that's not a factor on Win 9x
> systems such as Win Me.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby RemoveThis @gmail.com
>
>
> JohnN <jfn RemoveThis @jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also
>> checked 'Hide protected---------' also.
>> Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere?
>>
>> The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575!
>>
>> I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.
>
(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
> Hi Mike,
>
> If I were to re-install WinME over the existing Op System, is it
> possible this may remove problem.However I would want to retain
> existing files and programs; would this be OK?
John,
Possibly but it depends on how deep seated the problem is.
Note however that if you do decide to re-install Win Me over itself there
are two essential actions you must take first. The first being to uninstall
IE6 if installed otherwise IE and many other associated files will end up as
incompatible versions and cause problems not only with IE but other
components of the operating system that use those files. Secondly, if you
have WMP 9 installed, it is essential that you either delete or rename the
file wmploc.dll to say wmploc.old before carrying out the re-install.
Noel has some notes
(http://www.crashfixpc.co.uk/ME_Gen/reinstall_ME_over_itself.htm) on
re-installing Win Me that you might want to read before you start.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.RemoveThis@gmail.com
(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Mike wrote:-
> ..... What continues to intrigue me is that you continue
> to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista
> so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me
> **you are quite possibly wasting your time.**
Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of
installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New
Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation'
My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you
MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work
with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop) I
found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware'
wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
Mart
"Mike M" <No_Spam.RemoveThis@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> John,
>
> Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when you
> run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder in
> say the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps to
> NOT have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right click
> and then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in the
> Device Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then Properties |
> Drivers | Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the driver" then
> click Next, click Specify a location and browse to the folder containing
> the driver inf file and continue until finished.
>
> If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are
> trying to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I can't
> find in any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such details
> helps enormously those you are asking for help. What continues to
> intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for
> Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me
> you are quite possibly wasting your time.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby.RemoveThis@gmail.com
>
>
> JohnN <jfn.RemoveThis@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my
>> Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the
>> form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file
>> to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to
>> install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does
>> not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does
>> anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without
>> having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter.
>>
>> Thanks J.
>
(Msg. 28) Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:11 am
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Thanks for your comments Mark,
I'm aware of manual text but following the instructions as stated, it
depends on having the the correct Install disc for ME(not available); The
reason I;m trying to install from downloaded Driver(ME) is because my
adapter is XP/Vista compatible and when I follow manual instructions I get
message 'Incorrect Op system' as you would expect!;hence need to download
suitable driver.
John
"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
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> Mike wrote:-
>
>> ..... What continues to intrigue me is that you continue
>> to describe the device as being for Windows XP/Vista
>> so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win Me
>> **you are quite possibly wasting your time.**
>
> Hi Mike & John,
>
> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ... but
> although :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44 > implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page 5 of
> the User Manual :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Ad...er_seri > WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say the
> it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly reduced"
>
> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct sequence' of
> installing the Software (and drivers) by first cancelling the 'Found New
> Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23 'Software Installation'
>
> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that you
> MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it to work
> with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on WinMe laptop)
> I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the 'found new hardware'
> wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "Mike M" <No_Spam RemoveThis @Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:%23xlEf7u5JHA.3592@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> John,
>>
>> Can you extract the contents of the "Application Program File" or when
>> you run it does it create a folder and expand its contents in to a folder
>> in say the C:\Windows\Temp folder? If so look for an inf file (it helps
>> to NOT have file extensions hidden in Windows Explorer), select, right
>> click and then Install. Alternatively if the usb wi-fi device appears in
>> the Device Manager as "unknown device", select, right click, then
>> Properties | Drivers | Update Driver, select "Specify the location of the
>> driver" then click Next, click Specify a location and browse to the
>> folder containing the driver inf file and continue until finished.
>>
>> If this still doesn't work why not post details of the device you are
>> trying to install, such as manufacturer/vendor and model, a detail I
>> can't find in any of your posts but I may have missed it. Knowing such
>> details helps enormously those you are asking for help. What continues
>> to intrigue me is that you continue to describe the device as being for
>> Windows XP/Vista so unless it is specifically designed for use with Win
>> Me you are quite possibly wasting your time.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>> mike.maltby RemoveThis @gmail.com
>>
>>
>> JohnN <jfn RemoveThis @jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I want to install a WindowsXP/Vista USB/Wireless adapter on my
>>> Windows ME pc.Consequently I have downloaded a WinME Driver in the
>>> form of a 'zip' file from the adapter vendor.I have unzipped the file
>>> to give the Application Program file, but when I run this file to
>>> install the Driver the installation stops running mid way and does
>>> not complete( it 'hangs').The result is no driver is installed. Does
>>> anyone know what the problem is and how I might resolve it, without
>>> having to purchase a WinME USB/WIRELESS adapter.
>>>
>>> Thanks J.
>>
>
>
(Msg. 29) Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Mart,
What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to
install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he could
at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of the
importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but unless
he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In contrast it
took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the drivers on a Win
Me system here although that is where I had to stop since I don't have an
EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was correct.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.TakeThisOut@gmail.com
Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:
> Hi Mike & John,
>
> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
> but although :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44 > implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
> 5 of the User Manual :-
> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Ad...er_seri > WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
> the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
> reduced"
> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
> sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
> cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
> 'Software Installation'
> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
> you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
> to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
> WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
> 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
(Msg. 30) Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
John,
Nevertheless you should still be able to install the driver regardless of
whether it will work with the adapter on Win Me. That is something you have
apparently been unable to do up until now on your Win Me system. Until you
can get the driver to install (and I have demonstrated to my satisfaction
that it will install on a system running Win Me, but cannot determine
whether it works or not as I don't have an EW-7318Ug adapter with which to
test), there is no point in inserting the usb adapter.
I'm tempted to buy an Edimax EW-7318Ug and see it I can get it to work on a
Win Me box as I see they are available at CCL Computers for £8.12 including
p+p. I'll have to think about it though as my Netgear DG834PN router seems
to have died overnight and I've had to drop back to my ISP supplied TG585v7
which I find a horrible bit of kit.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby DeleteThis @gmail.com
> Thanks for your comments Mark,
>
> I'm aware of manual text but following the instructions as stated, it
> depends on having the the correct Install disc for ME(not available);
> The reason I;m trying to install from downloaded Driver(ME) is
> because my adapter is XP/Vista compatible and when I follow manual
> instructions I get message 'Incorrect Op system' as you would
> expect!;hence need to download suitable driver.
(Msg. 31) Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:05 pm
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Hi Mike,
Dont buy an adapter to prove your installation is OK; I'm sure it is and
that if I can get the Driver installed I think my adapter will be OK.
I'm having second thoughts about the merits of re-installing WinME!
Regards John
"Mike M" <No_Spam.DeleteThis@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> Mart,
>
> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to
> install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
> could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of
> the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but
> unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In
> contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the
> drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since
> I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was
> correct.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby.DeleteThis@gmail.com
>
>
> Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike & John,
>>
>> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
>> but although :-
>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44 >> implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
>> 5 of the User Manual :-
>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Ad...er_seri >> WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
>> the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
>> reduced"
>> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
>> sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
>> cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
>> 'Software Installation'
>> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
>> you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
>> to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
>> WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
>> 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
>
(Msg. 32) Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:05 pm
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Mike wrote :-
> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot
> even get the driver to install, instead the installer just
> hangs and never completes.
> .. and yes I am aware of the importance of installing
> the drivers before inserting the device...
Hmm ... except that in this case, the manufacturers instructions require the
device to be inserted and then to cancel the wizard immediately BEFORE
running the driver (and software) installation utility.
FWIW - As I alluded earlier, I recall having issues installing a Gigabit USB
2.0 stick on my old WinMe laptop both in the legacy USB 1.1 port and more
particularly via a PCMCIA-USB 2.0 card back end of last year.
A couple of years ago, the MS Knowledge Base pointed to a dead link
concerning USB2.0 - Wifi Adapter issues with WinMe but it finally got pulled
before it (the link) was ever fixed and so I never did manage to find out
any details.
That said, I had similar issues (instability) with a USB 2.0 WiFi stick
(Siemens Gigaset USB Adapter 108) on a couple of different laptops which
only had single legacy USB1.0 ports. In each case, I fitted completely
different unbranded 'generic' 4 port PCMCIA (Cardbus) USB2.0 cards. One
always worked correctly and the other displayed similar symptoms to John's
(hanging during the install process). Both cards worked normally with other
USB devices but one didn't like the USB2.0 Wifi adapter. I ended up using
the USB1.0 port for the WiFi stick as it was more (but not totally)
reliable.
I also wonder if John has USB 2.0 ports on his PC?
<snip>
" Q. What wireless support is built into Windows Me, Windows 98, and Windows
NT 4.0?
A. There is no built-in wireless LAN support in Windows Me, Windows 98, or
Windows NT 4.0. Wireless network adapter manufacturers must supply all
wireless and authentication functionality for these versions of Windows.
To configure a wireless client computer running Windows Me, Windows 98, or
Windows NT 4.0, you must use the wireless configuration tool provided by
your wireless network adapter manufacturer. Please see the instructions for
the wireless configuration tool to configure 802.11 and 802.1X
authentication settings.
</snip>
So MS implies it's not so much a WinMe issue but more likely it could be due
to 3rd party drivers. A trawl around Google also suggests that WinMe and
USB2.0 WiFi is not an exact science. I suppose John could try Ralink Tech
Support.
Mart
"Mike M" <No_Spam.RemoveThis@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> Mart,
>
> What concerns me here is that John seemingly cannot even get the driver to
> install, instead the installer just hangs and never completes. If he
> could at least do this he might be able to proceed, and yes I am aware of
> the importance of installing the drivers before inserting the device, but
> unless he can get the driver to install I feel he is going nowhere. In
> contrast it took some 15 seconds or so for the installer to install the
> drivers on a Win Me system here although that is where I had to stop since
> I don't have an EW-7318USg to test whether the driver installation was
> correct.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby.RemoveThis@gmail.com
>
>
> Mart <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike & John,
>>
>> 'Scuse butinski (and pardon me if I've missed some of the thread) ...
>> but although :-
>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/en/support_detail.php?pd_id=8&pl1_id=1&pl2_id=44 >> implies that the EW-7318USg works with WinMe, in section 1.3 on page
>> 5 of the User Manual :-
>> http://www.edimax.co.uk/images/Image/manual/Wireless/EW-Series/WLAN_Ad...er_seri >> WinMe is not included in the compatibility list - AND goes on to say
>> the it "May not work on USB 1.1 port, and performance will be greatly
>> reduced"
>> Further - according to the User Manual - there is a 'correct
>> sequence' of installing the Software (and drivers) by first
>> cancelling the 'Found New Hardware Wizard' (see p20) then go to p23
>> 'Software Installation'
>> My own experience with a Siemens Gigabit 108 USB WiFi stick was that
>> you MUST follow that (or at least a very similar sequence) to get it
>> to work with USB 1.1 - and even using USB 2.0 (via a PCMCIA card on
>> WinMe laptop) I found it very iffy to setup and run. Pointing the
>> 'found new hardware' wizard to the .inf file was not a solution.
>
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