(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:05 am
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsme>networking (more info?)
> Edimax version again and before hand disable or remove my old
> Symantec Systemworks protection
John,
No wonder you're having problems. I'm sorry but I won't be able to help
until you have removed all traces of Symantec software from your system,
none of which has ever been compatible with Win Me and has been the cause of
more posts to the Win Me NGs since Win Me was released than any other
software.
You might want to start by having a look at your C:\Windows\Inf folder. Out
of curiosity how many files does this contain and does it contain any zero
byte files that have a name that matches the template oem*.inf?
> If none of this works would it be possible and if you are willing to
> send me the contents(if not too large) of your Ralink folders for me
> to insert on my pc - or perhaps this wont work without some mods to
> the registry?
Not a problem but not until you confirm all traces of Symantec's
systemnotworks software has been removed from your system.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.RemoveThis@gmail.com
> Hi Mike,
>
> I dont get any 73* files loaded!
>
> I have tried leaving the installation running for 30mins. without
> result!
> At present I have the Ralink site version on my pc; I will try the
> Edimax version again and before hand disable or remove my old
> Symantec Systemworks protection.
>
> If none of this works would it be possible and if you are willing to
> send me the contents(if not too large) of your Ralink folders for me
> to insert on my pc - or perhaps this wont work without some mods to
> the registry?
> I will keep you informed of my progress.
(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:05 am
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
John,
Have a look at your C:\Windows\Inf folder. How many files does this contain
and does it contain any zero byte files that have a name that match the
template oem*.inf?
> What do you think of trying your files?
I see no point at the present time. Let's see how we get on now you've got
rid of SystemNotWork.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.DeleteThis@gmail.com
> Hi Mike,
>
> Did you see my previous post of today?
>
> I have removed my Norton Systemworks and tried to re-install the
> Edimax driver again but with exactly the same result.I'm now at a
> loss! - I obviously have a problem on my pc, since you can install
> without problems. I must have exhausted any more ideas you may have?.
> What do you think of trying your files?
(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:09 pm
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Hi Mike,
C:\Windows\Inf folder:
575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE.
No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte.
OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL
Does this indicate something?
I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton'
Regards John
PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John
"Mike M" <No_Spam DeleteThis @Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> John,
>
> Have a look at your C:\Windows\Inf folder. How many files does this
> contain and does it contain any zero byte files that have a name that
> match the template oem*.inf?
>
>> What do you think of trying your files?
>
> I see no point at the present time. Let's see how we get on now you've
> got rid of SystemNotWork.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby DeleteThis @gmail.com
>
>
> JohnN <jfn DeleteThis @jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Did you see my previous post of today?
>>
>> I have removed my Norton Systemworks and tried to re-install the
>> Edimax driver again but with exactly the same result.I'm now at a
>> loss! - I obviously have a problem on my pc, since you can install
>> without problems. I must have exhausted any more ideas you may have?.
>> What do you think of trying your files?
>
(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:00 pm
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
John,
Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System
Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands of
zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure
preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the
installation of new devices or any app using an inf file.
This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 -
"Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or
Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having
been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me
fell out of extended support in June 2006.
[Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the
Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden
system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show
hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system
files"). Does this reveal anything?
> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again
No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll
be at the keyboard tonight.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.RemoveThis@gmail.com
> Hi Mike,
>
> C:\Windows\Inf folder:
>
> 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE.
>
> No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte.
>
> OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL
>
> Does this indicate something?
>
> I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton'
>
> Regards John
>
> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John
(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:52 am
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=301540 (which is still available) is also
relevant here, although there the cause is slightly different, the result is
the same, and the removal procedure is identical.
I doubt very much that MS will offer the hotfix any more - as they aren't
delivered in the same way as they were at the time that ME was supported -
and anyhow, the best solution is to remove all traces of Symantec software
from any ME system (as I know you've already said, Mike).
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"Mike M" <No_Spam.TakeThisOut@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> John,
>
> Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System
> Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands
> of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure
> preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the
> installation of new devices or any app using an inf file.
>
> This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 -
> "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or
> Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having
> been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me
> fell out of extended support in June 2006.
>
> [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the
> Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden
> system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show
> hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system
> files"). Does this reveal anything?
>
>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again
>
> No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll
> be at the keyboard tonight.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby.TakeThisOut@gmail.com
>
>
>
> JohnN <jfn.TakeThisOut@jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> C:\Windows\Inf folder:
>>
>> 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE.
>>
>> No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte.
>>
>> OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL
>>
>> Does this indicate something?
>>
>> I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton'
>>
>> Regards John
>>
>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John
>
(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:59 am
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Mike M" <No_Spam RemoveThis @Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> John,
>
> Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System
> Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands
> of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory structure
> preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing the
> installation of new devices or any app using an inf file.
>
> This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 -
> "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or
> Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having
> been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me
> fell out of extended support in June 2006.
>
> [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the
> Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden
> system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show
> hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system
I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked
'Hide protected---------' also.
Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere?
The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575!
I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.
> files"). Does this reveal anything?
>
>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again
>
> No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time I'll
> be at the keyboard tonight.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby RemoveThis @gmail.com
>
>
>
> JohnN <jfn RemoveThis @jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> C:\Windows\Inf folder:
>>
>> 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE.
>>
>> No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte.
>>
>> OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL
>>
>> Does this indicate something?
>>
>> I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton'
>>
>> Regards John
>>
>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John
>
(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:04 am
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Oh dear! - what is this obsession that people have with registry cleaners?
Which one did you run? does it store a backup you can use to recover the
original position? (If so, the please use it!)
Registry cleaners should only be used by those who know enough about the
registry that they don't need one
More often than not, when using registry cleaners, the system ends up in a
worse state than previously, due to either faults in the cleaners detection
process, or faults in its logic.
either way, using one as a problem-solving tool is tantamount to throwing
out the baby with the bathwater - and then throwing the bath away as well.
--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"JohnN" <jfn RemoveThis @jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike M" <No_Spam RemoveThis @Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
> news:eHdLPMG6JHA.5932@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> John,
>>
>> Oh dear. I thought we might have been on to something. Norton System
>> Doctor is well known for populating the Windows\Inf folder with thousands
>> of zero byte oem*.inf files, so many that it fills the directory
>> structure preventing the creation of further files and thus preventing
>> the installation of new devices or any app using an inf file.
>>
>> This used to be documented in Microsoft Knowledge Base (KB 281967 -
>> "Computer Stops Responding (Hangs) During Setup, Installing Updates, or
>> Adding New Hardware") but sadly the article is no longer available having
>> been withdrawn, like most other Win Me related KB articles, since Win Me
>> fell out of extended support in June 2006.
>>
>> [Ponders.] The files are usually hidden so could you please check the
>> Windows\Inf folder again but this time first enable the viewing of hidden
>> system files in Explorer (Tools | Folder Options | View and check "Show
>> hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected operating system
>
> I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also checked
> 'Hide protected---------' also.
> Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere?
>
> The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575!
>
> I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.
>
>
>> files"). Does this reveal anything?
>>
>>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again
>>
>> No problem - I've other things to do also so don't know how much time
>> I'll be at the keyboard tonight.
>> --
>> Mike Maltby
>> mike.maltby RemoveThis @gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> JohnN <jfn RemoveThis @jfneal.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> C:\Windows\Inf folder:
>>>
>>> 575 Files including 3Folders: Catalog,Other,and QFE.
>>>
>>> No Zero bytes size files; some 1Kbyte.
>>>
>>> OEM* Files = oem1,oem2,oem3 and OEMCPL
>>>
>>> Does this indicate something?
>>>
>>> I have deleted all files ref. 'Symantec' or 'Norton'
>>>
>>> Regards John
>>>
>>> PS Out tonite; will pick up your response tomorrow. - Thanks again John
>>
>
>
(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:05 am
Post subject: Re: Unable to Install Driver [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
> I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.
John,
Regrettably I have nothing to add to Noel's comment on the subject. All
registry cleaners, like all domestic products from Symantec, should be
consigned to the rubbish bin and never go near a computer.
I'm at a loss as to why the driver install is hanging and not completing.
Something is stopping it. If it were an NT based system such as XP I'd now
be looking at registry permissions but that's not a factor on Win 9x systems
such as Win Me.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby RemoveThis @gmail.com
> I had 'view hidden files 'checked previously but now I have also
> checked 'Hide protected---------' also.
> Following this latter move do you want me to view elsewhere?
>
> The number of objects(files)in 'inf' folder shown is still 575!
>
> I have also run a Registry Cleaner program but problem still remains.
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