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nospam101

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:30 pm
Post subject: Trouble with new display and Device Manager
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>win98>gen_discussion (more info?)

I had trouble getting the right drivers installed for my Viewsonic LCD.
Essentially I ended up booting up the machine with no drivers and Windows
installed a Default Monitor. After finally getting the correct drivers
installed on my computer the correct drivers where installed but the
computer still thinks there's an unknown monitor attached to the machine and
keeps recreating the Default Monitor at start-up.

How do I fix this false detection of an unknown monitor ?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Trouble with new display and Device Manager [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Warren" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I had trouble getting the right drivers installed for my Viewsonic LCD.
> Essentially I ended up booting up the machine with no drivers and Windows
> installed a Default Monitor. After finally getting the correct drivers
> installed on my computer the correct drivers where installed but the
> computer still thinks there's an unknown monitor attached to the machine
and
> keeps recreating the Default Monitor at start-up.
>
> How do I fix this false detection of an unknown monitor ?
>
>


The way the monitor is listed is not important...
as long as your colors and resolution are OK, that's all you need to worry
about.

The settings for your *video card *are what you need to set...especially if
it's a wide screen
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:09 am
Post subject: Re: Trouble with new display and Device Manager [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Allow it to install the default monitor, then go into Device Manager and
mark it as disabled.
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"Warren" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I had trouble getting the right drivers installed for my Viewsonic LCD.
> Essentially I ended up booting up the machine with no drivers and Windows
> installed a Default Monitor. After finally getting the correct drivers
> installed on my computer the correct drivers where installed but the
> computer still thinks there's an unknown monitor attached to the machine
> and
> keeps recreating the Default Monitor at start-up.
>
> How do I fix this false detection of an unknown monitor ?
>
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:34 am
Post subject: Re: Trouble with new display and Device Manager [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Warren wrote:
> I had trouble getting the right drivers installed for my Viewsonic
> LCD. Essentially I ended up booting up the machine with no drivers
> and Windows installed a Default Monitor. After finally getting the
> correct drivers installed on my computer the correct drivers where
> installed but the computer still thinks there's an unknown monitor
> attached to the machine and keeps recreating the Default Monitor at
> start-up.
>
> How do I fix this false detection of an unknown monitor ?

Nvidia video card? They alway have "defaul monitor" listed. No big
deal, leave it alone.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:45 pm
Post subject: Re: Trouble with new display and Device Manager [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Warren wrote:
| I had trouble getting the right drivers installed for my Viewsonic
| LCD. Essentially I ended up booting up the machine with no drivers
| and Windows installed a Default Monitor. After finally getting the
| correct drivers installed on my computer the correct drivers where
| installed but the computer still thinks there's an unknown monitor
| attached to the machine and keeps recreating the Default Monitor at
| start-up.
|
| How do I fix this false detection of an unknown monitor ?

(1) Boot to Safe Mode
(Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
(3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.

Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is
currently installed. That is...
(a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
(b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
(c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
(d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
Examine the two panes to see what is currently installed.
That is likely what you wish to end up with, after step (4).

(4) Boot to Normal Mode.

Hopefully, the correct monitor will be rediscovered & installed & the
other will be gone.


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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp.TakeThisOut@netzero.net
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:24 am
Post subject: Re: Trouble with new display and Device Manager [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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That's what I was looking for, but I couldn't remember. I've seen
technicians clear all devices and let the system rebuild from scratch.

There were a lot of Plug & Play entries in Safe Mode view of Device Manager
that were cleaned up but unfortuately that Default monitor is still being
redetected.

Perhaps the Display Adapter is the problem, maybe it remembers it has two
monitors ? Should I remove it in the Device Manager first, and let the
system rebuild before trying to remove the Default monitor ?

"PCR" <pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
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> Warren wrote:
> | I had trouble getting the right drivers installed for my Viewsonic
> | LCD. Essentially I ended up booting up the machine with no drivers
> | and Windows installed a Default Monitor. After finally getting the
> | correct drivers installed on my computer the correct drivers where
> | installed but the computer still thinks there's an unknown monitor
> | attached to the machine and keeps recreating the Default Monitor at
> | start-up.
> |
> | How do I fix this false detection of an unknown monitor ?
>
> (1) Boot to Safe Mode
> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
> (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
>
> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is
> currently installed. That is...
> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
> (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
> (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
> Examine the two panes to see what is currently installed.
> That is likely what you wish to end up with, after step (4).
>
> (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
>
> Hopefully, the correct monitor will be rediscovered & installed & the
> other will be gone.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net
>
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Trouble with new display and Device Manager [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Warren wrote:
| That's what I was looking for, but I couldn't remember. I've seen
| technicians clear all devices and let the system rebuild from scratch.
|
| There were a lot of Plug & Play entries in Safe Mode view of Device
| Manager that were cleaned up but unfortuately that Default monitor is
| still being redetected.

Hmm. Too bad the unknown monitor wouldn't go too.

(a) You have both a Default Monitor & a Viewsonic LCD showing
up under the Monitors branch in Device Manager?
(b) Did you remove them both before rebooting as instructed?
(c) What is highlighted in step 3d of my prior instructions for
each of them, when you "Show all hardware"?

I installed an LCD Envision EN5400e monitor myself, & all looks & works
fine, except at...

"START button, Run, MSInfo32, Components, Display"

Envision EN5400e
Monitor
Registry Key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\MONITOR\EPIE564\PCI_VEN_1023&DEV_8400&SUBSYS_B1A
B0E11&REV_5C_000800
Alloc resources: None
Forced resources: None
Boot resources: None
Filtered resources: None
Basic resources: None
Driver: Monitor\0000
Driver Date: 8-20-2004
Driver: EN5400e.icm
File Size: Driver Not Installed
File Date: Driver Not Installed

Use the mouse to highlight the monitor info & the Edit menu to copy &
post it. Are you seeing two monitors there, instead of just one?

| Perhaps the Display Adapter is the problem, maybe it remembers it has
| two monitors ? Should I remove it in the Device Manager first, and
| let the system rebuild before trying to remove the Default monitor ?

It could be worth a try. Important: At the point below where you "bolt
'Show all hardware'", ensure you copy down what is in the left & right
panes. Then, if you have no other way to get back your current display
adapter, you may go back into that screen to select it.

.......Quote..........
The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from the
drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" button; and
click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows how to
deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard Display
Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.

[That is: Click "Change button, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next,
bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select '(Standard
display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right pane,
click 'Next'"... PCR]

This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic VGA
adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA because
it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is to get
rid of whatever was there before.

Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that matches
your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer to
see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the correct
video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have an
adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company that
made your video card.

Bill Starbuck (MVP)
.......End....of quote....

| "PCR" <pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:uyZf0CpcIHA.6080@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
|> Warren wrote:
|> | I had trouble getting the right drivers installed for my Viewsonic
|> | LCD. Essentially I ended up booting up the machine with no drivers
|> | and Windows installed a Default Monitor. After finally getting the
|> | correct drivers installed on my computer the correct drivers where
|> | installed but the computer still thinks there's an unknown monitor
|> | attached to the machine and keeps recreating the Default Monitor at
|> | start-up.
|> |
|> | How do I fix this false detection of an unknown monitor ?
|>
|> (1) Boot to Safe Mode
|> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
|> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
|> (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
|>
|> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is
|> currently installed. That is...
|> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
|> (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
|> (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
|> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
|> Examine the two panes to see what is currently installed.
|> That is likely what you wish to end up with, after step
|> (4).
|>
|> (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
|>
|> Hopefully, the correct monitor will be rediscovered & installed & the
|> other will be gone.
|>
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp.DeleteThis@netzero.net

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:23 am
Post subject: Re: Trouble with new display and Device Manager [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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(a) Yes both monitors show up under the Monitors branch

(b) Yes, I removed them both before rebooting

(c) Default monitor - Generic Television
VP930 monitor - %VCDTS21367-1% (I have no idea what this garbage is
but the seemingly more appropriate driver for VP 930 Series seems to be
available)

(d) ViewSonic VP930 Series
Monitor
Registry Key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\MONITOR\VSCE41B\PCI_VEN_1002&DEV_5961&SUBSYS_280117E
E&REV_01_000800
Alloc resources: None
Forced resources: None
Boot resources: None
Filtered resources: None
Basic resources: None
Driver: Monitor\0000
Driver Date: 2-16-2008
Driver: VP930_Series.ICM
File Size: Driver Not
Installed
File Date: Driver Not
Installed

Default Monitor
Monitor
This device is disabled.
Registry Key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\PCI_VEN_1002&DEV_5961&SUBSYS
_280117EE&REV_01_000800_1
Alloc resources: None
Forced resources: None
Boot resources: None
Filtered resources: None
Basic resources: None
Driver: Monitor\0002
Driver Date: 4-23-1999

"PCR" <pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
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> Warren wrote:
> | That's what I was looking for, but I couldn't remember. I've seen
> | technicians clear all devices and let the system rebuild from scratch.
> |
> | There were a lot of Plug & Play entries in Safe Mode view of Device
> | Manager that were cleaned up but unfortuately that Default monitor is
> | still being redetected.
>
> Hmm. Too bad the unknown monitor wouldn't go too.
>
> (a) You have both a Default Monitor & a Viewsonic LCD showing
> up under the Monitors branch in Device Manager?
> (b) Did you remove them both before rebooting as instructed?
> (c) What is highlighted in step 3d of my prior instructions for
> each of them, when you "Show all hardware"?
>
> I installed an LCD Envision EN5400e monitor myself, & all looks & works
> fine, except at...
>
> "START button, Run, MSInfo32, Components, Display"
>
> Envision EN5400e
> Monitor
> Registry Key:
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\enum\MONITOR\EPIE564\PCI_VEN_1023&DEV_8400&SUBSYS_B1A
> B0E11&REV_5C_000800
> Alloc resources: None
> Forced resources: None
> Boot resources: None
> Filtered resources: None
> Basic resources: None
> Driver: Monitor\0000
> Driver Date: 8-20-2004
> Driver: EN5400e.icm
> File Size: Driver Not Installed
> File Date: Driver Not Installed
>
> Use the mouse to highlight the monitor info & the Edit menu to copy &
> post it. Are you seeing two monitors there, instead of just one?
>
> | Perhaps the Display Adapter is the problem, maybe it remembers it has
> | two monitors ? Should I remove it in the Device Manager first, and
> | let the system rebuild before trying to remove the Default monitor ?
>
> It could be worth a try. Important: At the point below where you "bolt
> 'Show all hardware'", ensure you copy down what is in the left & right
> panes. Then, if you have no other way to get back your current display
> adapter, you may go back into that screen to select it.
>
> ......Quote..........
> The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
> installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from the
> drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" button; and
> click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows how to
> deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
> currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard Display
> Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.
>
> [That is: Click "Change button, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next,
> bolt 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select '(Standard
> display types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right pane,
> click 'Next'"... PCR]
>
> This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic VGA
> adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA because
> it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is to get
> rid of whatever was there before.
>
> Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that matches
> your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
> using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer to
> see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the correct
> video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have an
> adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company that
> made your video card.
>
> Bill Starbuck (MVP)
> ......End....of quote....
>
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:uyZf0CpcIHA.6080@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> |> Warren wrote:
> |> | I had trouble getting the right drivers installed for my Viewsonic
> |> | LCD. Essentially I ended up booting up the machine with no drivers
> |> | and Windows installed a Default Monitor. After finally getting the
> |> | correct drivers installed on my computer the correct drivers where
> |> | installed but the computer still thinks there's an unknown monitor
> |> | attached to the machine and keeps recreating the Default Monitor at
> |> | start-up.
> |> |
> |> | How do I fix this false detection of an unknown monitor ?
> |>
> |> (1) Boot to Safe Mode
> |> (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
> |> (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
> |> (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
> |>
> |> Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is
> |> currently installed. That is...
> |> (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
> |> (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
> |> (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
> |> (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
> |> Examine the two panes to see what is currently installed.
> |> That is likely what you wish to end up with, after step
> |> (4).
> |>
> |> (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
> |>
> |> Hopefully, the correct monitor will be rediscovered & installed & the
> |> other will be gone.
> |>
> |>
> |> --
> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
> |> Should things get worse after this,
> |> PCR
> |> pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp RemoveThis @netzero.net
>
>
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