Reinstall OE

I tried that. No luck. I also have Panicware popup stopper and disabled it
and still does not work. The only update I know of for OE was q823353.

"glee" <glee29.DeleteThis@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ueeqhgXBJHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "Jim" <invalid.DeleteThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eBLnE5UBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > snip
> > I do use the restricted security level in OE and the
> > IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you
think
> > that might be the problem?
> > snip
>
> Set it from Custom level to Default level, close and reopen the browser,
and see if
> it fixes the problem. That's a painless and easy test to find out.
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>

Strange, I have q837009 listed as an update in IE. And q823353 in OE. If I
uninstall the OE update and reinstall you think this will help. Is q823353
still offered at WU? I guess I can check the catalog. Thanks I'll get back
with you all shortly.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:uuMxgfYBJHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> KB823353 was offered for a while and then pulled from WU. Regardless of
the
> documentation, it works perfectly well on Win9x and gets rid of the ~.wab
> file among other things. However, it causes problems if it was installed
> *before* KB837009. The symptoms are that KB837009 is repeatedly offered at
> WU. The solution is to uninstall 823353, install 837009, then reinstall
> 823353. I know of no other problems with KB 823353 on Win9x.
>
> I *think* it was in the newsgroups that I went through this all some time
in
> the last few months if you want to search Google Groups.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "glee" <glee29 DeleteThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:%23%23CUEaXBJHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > This is a Win98 group, so we are assuming you are using Win98, but in
> > fact, are you?
> >
> > The update you mention causing the problem is NOT listed as available
for
> > Win98, so how did you install it exactly? Or are you using another
> > operating system and posting in the wrong group altogether?
> >
> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for
> > Outlook Express (823353)
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-018.mspx
> >
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> > http://dts-l.net/
> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Jim" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:eBLnE5UBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> The links in IE that enact operations in OE for New Message, Send Link
> >> and
> >> Send Page are in a Drop down menu in IE Tools>Mail and News or some
have
> >> it
> >> on the toolbar Mail Icon.
> >>
> >> I do have FF2.x and TB but have not been using as of late. IE and OE
are
> >> the
> >> Default programs. Once I did have FF and OE cross-linked but have since
> >> reordered the programs to there related applications. I think this
> >> happened
> >> sometime back and I have been just getting by without the links. It may
> >> have
> >> been a security update. I do use the restricted security level in OE
and
> >> the
> >> IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you
> >> think
> >> that might be the problem?
> >>
> >> DNSstuff is a toolset for ip,traceroute, etc.
> >> I do not want to cross-post at this point because conversation is to
far
> >> along.
> >>
> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >> news:OsMfB%23NBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> 1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take
advantage
> >> of
> >>> people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without
> >> shelling
> >>> out money?
> >>>
> >>> 2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for that
> >>> matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under Tools>Mail
> >>> and
> >>> News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in
what
> >> it
> >>> is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but I
> >> would
> >>> have suggested the same procedure to start with.
> >>>
> >>> 3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only*
did
> >>> IE
> >>> Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much
harmless,
> >> but
> >>> the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows
over
> >> the
> >>> top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
> >>> version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates.
> >>> Broken
> >>> Updates and DLL Hell result.)
> >>>
> >>> 4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed?
> >> Because
> >>> now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
> >>> program took over as your default email program, stole those menu
items
> >> for
> >>> itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or
> >>> some
> >>> other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying that's
> >> what
> >>> did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a
> >> Registry
> >>> issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.
> >>>
> >>> 5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express
is
> >>> listed as your default Mail and News reader.
> >>>
> >>> 6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will
recognize
> >> the
> >>> issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs.
You
> >> DO
> >>> NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they
are
> >> part
> >>> of the same package.)
> >>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
> >>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
> >>>
> >>> Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and,
as
> >>> I
> >>> mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the
> >>> issue.
> >>> "Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
> >>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>>
> >>> 7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up
> >>> with
> >>> anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole thing.
> >>> It
> >> is
> >>> certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of your
> >>> system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Gary S. Terhune
> >>> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >>> http://grystmill.com
> >>>
> >>> "Jim" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
> >>> news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>> > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE?
I
> >>> > have
> >>> > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will
> >>> > this
> >>> > be
> >>> > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff
> >>> > email
> >>> > link
> >>> > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
> >>> > corrupted.
> >>> > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations
like
> >>> > start
> >>> > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

No. I don't think you have any problems with those Updates in particular.
Your system doesn't exhibit the symptoms. If it will make you feel better,
you might want to reinstall KB823353, http://tinyurl.com/3zd6d, just to be
sure the latest versions of the files involved are installed.

Please! Do what I suggested and re-post this question, using proper
cross-posting, to the two IE and OE newsgroups I recommended, who are much
more likely to have the experience required to recognize this issue (if
anyone does.) You have relayed stories of installing other apps and then
trying to tie them together in unnatural ways. It is no wonder you have
problems, but the other folks are much more likely to recognize just what
you're talking about and maybe even have a solution. I seriously doubt
you're going to get the answer here.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:uIPrO8YBJHA.1628@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Strange, I have q837009 listed as an update in IE. And q823353 in OE. If I
> uninstall the OE update and reinstall you think this will help. Is q823353
> still offered at WU? I guess I can check the catalog. Thanks I'll get back
> with you all shortly.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uuMxgfYBJHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> KB823353 was offered for a while and then pulled from WU. Regardless of
> the
>> documentation, it works perfectly well on Win9x and gets rid of the ~.wab
>> file among other things. However, it causes problems if it was installed
>> *before* KB837009. The symptoms are that KB837009 is repeatedly offered
>> at
>> WU. The solution is to uninstall 823353, install 837009, then reinstall
>> 823353. I know of no other problems with KB 823353 on Win9x.
>>
>> I *think* it was in the newsgroups that I went through this all some time
> in
>> the last few months if you want to search Google Groups.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "glee" <glee29.TakeThisOut@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23%23CUEaXBJHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > This is a Win98 group, so we are assuming you are using Win98, but in
>> > fact, are you?
>> >
>> > The update you mention causing the problem is NOT listed as available
> for
>> > Win98, so how did you install it exactly? Or are you using another
>> > operating system and posting in the wrong group altogether?
>> >
>> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for
>> > Outlook Express (823353)
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-018.mspx
>> >
>> > --
>> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> > http://dts-l.net/
>> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jim" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> > news:eBLnE5UBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> The links in IE that enact operations in OE for New Message, Send Link
>> >> and
>> >> Send Page are in a Drop down menu in IE Tools>Mail and News or some
> have
>> >> it
>> >> on the toolbar Mail Icon.
>> >>
>> >> I do have FF2.x and TB but have not been using as of late. IE and OE
> are
>> >> the
>> >> Default programs. Once I did have FF and OE cross-linked but have
>> >> since
>> >> reordered the programs to there related applications. I think this
>> >> happened
>> >> sometime back and I have been just getting by without the links. It
>> >> may
>> >> have
>> >> been a security update. I do use the restricted security level in OE
> and
>> >> the
>> >> IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you
>> >> think
>> >> that might be the problem?
>> >>
>> >> DNSstuff is a toolset for ip,traceroute, etc.
>> >> I do not want to cross-post at this point because conversation is to
> far
>> >> along.
>> >>
>> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> news:OsMfB%23NBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >>> 1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take
> advantage
>> >> of
>> >>> people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without
>> >> shelling
>> >>> out money?
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for
>> >>> that
>> >>> matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under
>> >>> Tools>Mail
>> >>> and
>> >>> News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in
> what
>> >> it
>> >>> is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but
>> >>> I
>> >> would
>> >>> have suggested the same procedure to start with.
>> >>>
>> >>> 3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only*
> did
>> >>> IE
>> >>> Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much
> harmless,
>> >> but
>> >>> the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows
> over
>> >> the
>> >>> top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
>> >>> version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates.
>> >>> Broken
>> >>> Updates and DLL Hell result.)
>> >>>
>> >>> 4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed?
>> >> Because
>> >>> now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
>> >>> program took over as your default email program, stole those menu
> items
>> >> for
>> >>> itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or
>> >>> some
>> >>> other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying
>> >>> that's
>> >> what
>> >>> did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a
>> >> Registry
>> >>> issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.
>> >>>
>> >>> 5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express
> is
>> >>> listed as your default Mail and News reader.
>> >>>
>> >>> 6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will
> recognize
>> >> the
>> >>> issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs.
> You
>> >> DO
>> >>> NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they
> are
>> >> part
>> >>> of the same package.)
>> >>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>> >>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>> >>>
>> >>> Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and,
> as
>> >>> I
>> >>> mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the
>> >>> issue.
>> >>> "Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
>> >>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> >>>
>> >>> 7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up
>> >>> with
>> >>> anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole
>> >>> thing.
>> >>> It
>> >> is
>> >>> certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of
>> >>> your
>> >>> system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Gary S. Terhune
>> >>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >>> http://grystmill.com
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jim" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> >>> news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >>> > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for
>> >>> > OE?
> I
>> >>> > have
>> >>> > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will
>> >>> > this
>> >>> > be
>> >>> > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff
>> >>> > email
>> >>> > link
>> >>> > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
>> >>> > corrupted.
>> >>> > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations
> like
>> >>> > start
>> >>> > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Yep...I remember now. In fact, I think I was involved in some discussions here on
those issues quite a while back also. I guess I tried to forget....thanks for the
reminder, I think. <eg>
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:uuMxgfYBJHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> KB823353 was offered for a while and then pulled from WU. Regardless of the
> documentation, it works perfectly well on Win9x and gets rid of the ~.wab file
> among other things. However, it causes problems if it was installed *before*
> KB837009. The symptoms are that KB837009 is repeatedly offered at WU. The solution
> is to uninstall 823353, install 837009, then reinstall 823353. I know of no other
> problems with KB 823353 on Win9x.
>
> I *think* it was in the newsgroups that I went through this all some time in the
> last few months if you want to search Google Groups.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "glee" <glee29 DeleteThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:%23%23CUEaXBJHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> This is a Win98 group, so we are assuming you are using Win98, but in fact, are
>> you?
>>
>> The update you mention causing the problem is NOT listed as available for Win98,
>> so how did you install it exactly? Or are you using another operating system and
>> posting in the wrong group altogether?
>>
>> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook
>> Express (823353)
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-018.mspx
>>
>> --
>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> http://dts-l.net/
>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>
>>
>> "Jim" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:eBLnE5UBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> The links in IE that enact operations in OE for New Message, Send Link and
>>> Send Page are in a Drop down menu in IE Tools>Mail and News or some have it
>>> on the toolbar Mail Icon.
>>>
>>> I do have FF2.x and TB but have not been using as of late. IE and OE are the
>>> Default programs. Once I did have FF and OE cross-linked but have since
>>> reordered the programs to there related applications. I think this happened
>>> sometime back and I have been just getting by without the links. It may have
>>> been a security update. I do use the restricted security level in OE and the
>>> IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you think
>>> that might be the problem?
>>>
>>> DNSstuff is a toolset for ip,traceroute, etc.
>>> I do not want to cross-post at this point because conversation is to far
>>> along.
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:OsMfB%23NBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> 1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take advantage
>>> of
>>>> people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without
>>> shelling
>>>> out money?
>>>>
>>>> 2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for that
>>>> matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under Tools>Mail and
>>>> News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in what
>>> it
>>>> is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but I
>>> would
>>>> have suggested the same procedure to start with.
>>>>
>>>> 3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only* did IE
>>>> Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much harmless,
>>> but
>>>> the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows over
>>> the
>>>> top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
>>>> version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates. Broken
>>>> Updates and DLL Hell result.)
>>>>
>>>> 4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed?
>>> Because
>>>> now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
>>>> program took over as your default email program, stole those menu items
>>> for
>>>> itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or some
>>>> other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying that's
>>> what
>>>> did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a
>>> Registry
>>>> issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express is
>>>> listed as your default Mail and News reader.
>>>>
>>>> 6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will recognize
>>> the
>>>> issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs. You
>>> DO
>>>> NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they are
>>> part
>>>> of the same package.)
>>>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>>>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>>>>
>>>> Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and, as I
>>>> mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the issue.
>>>> "Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>
>>>> 7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up with
>>>> anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole thing. It
>>> is
>>>> certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of your
>>>> system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "Jim" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE? I
>>>> > have
>>>> > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will this
>>>> > be
>>>> > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff email
>>>> > link
>>>> > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
>>>> > corrupted.
>>>> > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations like
>>>> > start
>>>> > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

It can be confusing, especially since the one with the lower number was
actually released well after the one with the higher number.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"glee" <glee29.RemoveThis@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:eC5pgDZBJHA.3392@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Yep...I remember now. In fact, I think I was involved in some discussions
> here on those issues quite a while back also. I guess I tried to
> forget....thanks for the reminder, I think. <eg>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uuMxgfYBJHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> KB823353 was offered for a while and then pulled from WU. Regardless of
>> the documentation, it works perfectly well on Win9x and gets rid of the
>> ~.wab file among other things. However, it causes problems if it was
>> installed *before* KB837009. The symptoms are that KB837009 is repeatedly
>> offered at WU. The solution is to uninstall 823353, install 837009, then
>> reinstall 823353. I know of no other problems with KB 823353 on Win9x.
>>
>> I *think* it was in the newsgroups that I went through this all some time
>> in the last few months if you want to search Google Groups.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "glee" <glee29.RemoveThis@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23%23CUEaXBJHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> This is a Win98 group, so we are assuming you are using Win98, but in
>>> fact, are you?
>>>
>>> The update you mention causing the problem is NOT listed as available
>>> for Win98, so how did you install it exactly? Or are you using another
>>> operating system and posting in the wrong group altogether?
>>>
>>> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for
>>> Outlook Express (823353)
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-018.mspx
>>>
>>> --
>>> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>>> http://dts-l.net/
>>> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jim" <invalid.RemoveThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:eBLnE5UBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> The links in IE that enact operations in OE for New Message, Send Link
>>>> and
>>>> Send Page are in a Drop down menu in IE Tools>Mail and News or some
>>>> have it
>>>> on the toolbar Mail Icon.
>>>>
>>>> I do have FF2.x and TB but have not been using as of late. IE and OE
>>>> are the
>>>> Default programs. Once I did have FF and OE cross-linked but have since
>>>> reordered the programs to there related applications. I think this
>>>> happened
>>>> sometime back and I have been just getting by without the links. It may
>>>> have
>>>> been a security update. I do use the restricted security level in OE
>>>> and the
>>>> IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you
>>>> think
>>>> that might be the problem?
>>>>
>>>> DNSstuff is a toolset for ip,traceroute, etc.
>>>> I do not want to cross-post at this point because conversation is to
>>>> far
>>>> along.
>>>>
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>> news:OsMfB%23NBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> 1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take
>>>>> advantage
>>>> of
>>>>> people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without
>>>> shelling
>>>>> out money?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for that
>>>>> matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under Tools>Mail
>>>>> and
>>>>> News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in
>>>>> what
>>>> it
>>>>> is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but I
>>>> would
>>>>> have suggested the same procedure to start with.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only*
>>>>> did IE
>>>>> Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much
>>>>> harmless,
>>>> but
>>>>> the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows
>>>>> over
>>>> the
>>>>> top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
>>>>> version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates.
>>>>> Broken
>>>>> Updates and DLL Hell result.)
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed?
>>>> Because
>>>>> now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
>>>>> program took over as your default email program, stole those menu
>>>>> items
>>>> for
>>>>> itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or
>>>>> some
>>>>> other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying that's
>>>> what
>>>>> did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a
>>>> Registry
>>>>> issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express
>>>>> is
>>>>> listed as your default Mail and News reader.
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will
>>>>> recognize
>>>> the
>>>>> issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs.
>>>>> You
>>>> DO
>>>>> NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they
>>>>> are
>>>> part
>>>>> of the same package.)
>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>>>>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>>>>>
>>>>> Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and,
>>>>> as I
>>>>> mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the
>>>>> issue.
>>>>> "Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
>>>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> 7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up
>>>>> with
>>>>> anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole thing.
>>>>> It
>>>> is
>>>>> certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of your
>>>>> system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jim" <invalid.RemoveThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE?
>>>>> > I
>>>>> > have
>>>>> > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will
>>>>> > this
>>>>> > be
>>>>> > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff
>>>>> > email
>>>>> > link
>>>>> > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
>>>>> > corrupted.
>>>>> > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations
>>>>> > like
>>>>> > start
>>>>> > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

I did not find q823353 in the WU catalog and although I have read Glen's
link and see a DL for it this was dated July 13, 2004 TechNet and this other
webpage I found in Knowledge Base was dated August 14, 2005 says it is for
win2k and xp for:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-018.mspx

A dialog box with no text appears if you reply to a news message in Outlook
Express 6 Service Pack 1
and the article says nothing about q837009

FAQ says: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555398/en-us

Are Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, or Windows Millennium Edition
critically affected by any of the vulnerabilities that are addressed in this
security bulletin?
No. None of these vulnerabilities are critical in severity on Windows 98, on
Windows 98 Second Edition, or on Windows Millennium Edition.

Confused...Also I updated kb837009 in April of 2004 and kb823353 in July of
2004. I do not find kb823353 in WU list for win98 or 2nd ed. Do you all
think I should get rid of it?

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:uuMxgfYBJHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> KB823353 was offered for a while and then pulled from WU. Regardless of
the
> documentation, it works perfectly well on Win9x and gets rid of the ~.wab
> file among other things. However, it causes problems if it was installed
> *before* KB837009. The symptoms are that KB837009 is repeatedly offered at
> WU. The solution is to uninstall 823353, install 837009, then reinstall
> 823353. I know of no other problems with KB 823353 on Win9x.
>
> I *think* it was in the newsgroups that I went through this all some time
in
> the last few months if you want to search Google Groups.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "glee" <glee29 DeleteThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:%23%23CUEaXBJHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > This is a Win98 group, so we are assuming you are using Win98, but in
> > fact, are you?
> >
> > The update you mention causing the problem is NOT listed as available
for
> > Win98, so how did you install it exactly? Or are you using another
> > operating system and posting in the wrong group altogether?
> >
> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for
> > Outlook Express (823353)
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-018.mspx
> >
> > --
> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> > http://dts-l.net/
> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
> >
> >
> > "Jim" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:eBLnE5UBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> The links in IE that enact operations in OE for New Message, Send Link
> >> and
> >> Send Page are in a Drop down menu in IE Tools>Mail and News or some
have
> >> it
> >> on the toolbar Mail Icon.
> >>
> >> I do have FF2.x and TB but have not been using as of late. IE and OE
are
> >> the
> >> Default programs. Once I did have FF and OE cross-linked but have since
> >> reordered the programs to there related applications. I think this
> >> happened
> >> sometime back and I have been just getting by without the links. It may
> >> have
> >> been a security update. I do use the restricted security level in OE
and
> >> the
> >> IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you
> >> think
> >> that might be the problem?
> >>
> >> DNSstuff is a toolset for ip,traceroute, etc.
> >> I do not want to cross-post at this point because conversation is to
far
> >> along.
> >>
> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> >> news:OsMfB%23NBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> 1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take
advantage
> >> of
> >>> people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without
> >> shelling
> >>> out money?
> >>>
> >>> 2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for that
> >>> matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under Tools>Mail
> >>> and
> >>> News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in
what
> >> it
> >>> is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but I
> >> would
> >>> have suggested the same procedure to start with.
> >>>
> >>> 3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only*
did
> >>> IE
> >>> Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much
harmless,
> >> but
> >>> the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows
over
> >> the
> >>> top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
> >>> version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates.
> >>> Broken
> >>> Updates and DLL Hell result.)
> >>>
> >>> 4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed?
> >> Because
> >>> now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
> >>> program took over as your default email program, stole those menu
items
> >> for
> >>> itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or
> >>> some
> >>> other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying that's
> >> what
> >>> did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a
> >> Registry
> >>> issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.
> >>>
> >>> 5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express
is
> >>> listed as your default Mail and News reader.
> >>>
> >>> 6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will
recognize
> >> the
> >>> issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs.
You
> >> DO
> >>> NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they
are
> >> part
> >>> of the same package.)
> >>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
> >>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
> >>>
> >>> Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and,
as
> >>> I
> >>> mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the
> >>> issue.
> >>> "Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
> >>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>>
> >>> 7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up
> >>> with
> >>> anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole thing.
> >>> It
> >> is
> >>> certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of your
> >>> system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Gary S. Terhune
> >>> MS-MVP Shell/User
> >>> http://grystmill.com
> >>>
> >>> "Jim" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
> >>> news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>> > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE?
I
> >>> > have
> >>> > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will
> >>> > this
> >>> > be
> >>> > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff
> >>> > email
> >>> > link
> >>> > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
> >>> > corrupted.
> >>> > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations
like
> >>> > start
> >>> > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>