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Gary S. Terhune

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Reinstall OE [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>win98>apps (more info?)

Believe me, I have read and experimented with everything involved with all
of the articles you cite and tons more. Please reread my previous post. You
have no problems with those Updates. They were installed in the proper
order. Your problem is almost certainly an entirely different one and
totally unrelated. It's also totally OT for this NG, and you're very
unlikely to get any more answers than you're already getting. Which advice
is:
nntp://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
nntp://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_...lookexp
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid.RemoveThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:%23ZZ6tpZBJHA.1228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I did not find q823353 in the WU catalog and although I have read Glen's
> link and see a DL for it this was dated July 13, 2004 TechNet and this
> other
> webpage I found in Knowledge Base was dated August 14, 2005 says it is for
> win2k and xp for:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-018.mspx
>
> A dialog box with no text appears if you reply to a news message in
> Outlook
> Express 6 Service Pack 1
> and the article says nothing about q837009
>
> FAQ says: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555398/en-us
>
> Are Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, or Windows Millennium Edition
> critically affected by any of the vulnerabilities that are addressed in
> this
> security bulletin?
> No. None of these vulnerabilities are critical in severity on Windows 98,
> on
> Windows 98 Second Edition, or on Windows Millennium Edition.
>
> Confused...Also I updated kb837009 in April of 2004 and kb823353 in July
> of
> 2004. I do not find kb823353 in WU list for win98 or 2nd ed. Do you all
> think I should get rid of it?
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uuMxgfYBJHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> KB823353 was offered for a while and then pulled from WU. Regardless of
> the
>> documentation, it works perfectly well on Win9x and gets rid of the ~.wab
>> file among other things. However, it causes problems if it was installed
>> *before* KB837009. The symptoms are that KB837009 is repeatedly offered
>> at
>> WU. The solution is to uninstall 823353, install 837009, then reinstall
>> 823353. I know of no other problems with KB 823353 on Win9x.
>>
>> I *think* it was in the newsgroups that I went through this all some time
> in
>> the last few months if you want to search Google Groups.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "glee" <glee29.RemoveThis@spamindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23%23CUEaXBJHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> > This is a Win98 group, so we are assuming you are using Win98, but in
>> > fact, are you?
>> >
>> > The update you mention causing the problem is NOT listed as available
> for
>> > Win98, so how did you install it exactly? Or are you using another
>> > operating system and posting in the wrong group altogether?
>> >
>> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for
>> > Outlook Express (823353)
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-018.mspx
>> >
>> > --
>> > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
>> > http://dts-l.net/
>> > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>> >
>> >
>> > "Jim" <invalid.RemoveThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> > news:eBLnE5UBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> The links in IE that enact operations in OE for New Message, Send Link
>> >> and
>> >> Send Page are in a Drop down menu in IE Tools>Mail and News or some
> have
>> >> it
>> >> on the toolbar Mail Icon.
>> >>
>> >> I do have FF2.x and TB but have not been using as of late. IE and OE
> are
>> >> the
>> >> Default programs. Once I did have FF and OE cross-linked but have
>> >> since
>> >> reordered the programs to there related applications. I think this
>> >> happened
>> >> sometime back and I have been just getting by without the links. It
>> >> may
>> >> have
>> >> been a security update. I do use the restricted security level in OE
> and
>> >> the
>> >> IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you
>> >> think
>> >> that might be the problem?
>> >>
>> >> DNSstuff is a toolset for ip,traceroute, etc.
>> >> I do not want to cross-post at this point because conversation is to
> far
>> >> along.
>> >>
>> >> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> >> news:OsMfB%23NBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >>> 1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take
> advantage
>> >> of
>> >>> people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without
>> >> shelling
>> >>> out money?
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for
>> >>> that
>> >>> matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under
>> >>> Tools>Mail
>> >>> and
>> >>> News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in
> what
>> >> it
>> >>> is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but
>> >>> I
>> >> would
>> >>> have suggested the same procedure to start with.
>> >>>
>> >>> 3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only*
> did
>> >>> IE
>> >>> Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much
> harmless,
>> >> but
>> >>> the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows
> over
>> >> the
>> >>> top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
>> >>> version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates.
>> >>> Broken
>> >>> Updates and DLL Hell result.)
>> >>>
>> >>> 4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed?
>> >> Because
>> >>> now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
>> >>> program took over as your default email program, stole those menu
> items
>> >> for
>> >>> itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or
>> >>> some
>> >>> other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying
>> >>> that's
>> >> what
>> >>> did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a
>> >> Registry
>> >>> issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.
>> >>>
>> >>> 5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express
> is
>> >>> listed as your default Mail and News reader.
>> >>>
>> >>> 6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will
> recognize
>> >> the
>> >>> issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs.
> You
>> >> DO
>> >>> NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they
> are
>> >> part
>> >>> of the same package.)
>> >>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>> >>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>> >>>
>> >>> Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and,
> as
>> >>> I
>> >>> mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the
>> >>> issue.
>> >>> "Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
>> >>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> >>>
>> >>> 7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up
>> >>> with
>> >>> anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole
>> >>> thing.
>> >>> It
>> >> is
>> >>> certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of
>> >>> your
>> >>> system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Gary S. Terhune
>> >>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> >>> http://grystmill.com
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jim" <invalid.RemoveThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> >>> news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >>> > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for
>> >>> > OE?
> I
>> >>> > have
>> >>> > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will
>> >>> > this
>> >>> > be
>> >>> > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff
>> >>> > email
>> >>> > link
>> >>> > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
>> >>> > corrupted.
>> >>> > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations
> like
>> >>> > start
>> >>> > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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Jim

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Since: Jul 06, 2006
Posts: 164



(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Reinstall OE [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Ok, I'll move to and cross=post in these 2 NG:
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress

"Jim" <invalid.RemoveThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:eBLnE5UBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> The links in IE that enact operations in OE for New Message, Send Link and
> Send Page are in a Drop down menu in IE Tools>Mail and News or some have
it
> on the toolbar Mail Icon.
>
> I do have FF2.x and TB but have not been using as of late. IE and OE are
the
> Default programs. Once I did have FF and OE cross-linked but have since
> reordered the programs to there related applications. I think this
happened
> sometime back and I have been just getting by without the links. It may
have
> been a security update. I do use the restricted security level in OE and
the
> IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you
think
> that might be the problem?
>
> DNSstuff is a toolset for ip,traceroute, etc.
> I do not want to cross-post at this point because conversation is to far
> along.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:OsMfB%23NBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > 1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take advantage
> of
> > people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without
> shelling
> > out money?
> >
> > 2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for that
> > matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under Tools>Mail
and
> > News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in what
> it
> > is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but I
> would
> > have suggested the same procedure to start with.
> >
> > 3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only* did
IE
> > Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much harmless,
> but
> > the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows over
> the
> > top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
> > version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates.
Broken
> > Updates and DLL Hell result.)
> >
> > 4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed?
> Because
> > now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
> > program took over as your default email program, stole those menu items
> for
> > itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or
some
> > other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying that's
> what
> > did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a
> Registry
> > issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.
> >
> > 5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express is
> > listed as your default Mail and News reader.
> >
> > 6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will recognize
> the
> > issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs. You
> DO
> > NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they are
> part
> > of the same package.)
> > microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
> > microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
> >
> > Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and, as
I
> > mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the
issue.
> > "Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
> > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >
> > 7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up
with
> > anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole thing.
It
> is
> > certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of your
> > system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS-MVP Shell/User
> > http://grystmill.com
> >
> > "Jim" <invalid.RemoveThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE? I
> > > have
> > > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will
this
> > > be
> > > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff
email
> > > link
> > > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
> > > corrupted.
> > > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations like
> > > start
> > > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Reinstall OE [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Thank you!

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Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:O2MYTxjBJHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ok, I'll move to and cross=post in these 2 NG:
> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>
> "Jim" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eBLnE5UBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> The links in IE that enact operations in OE for New Message, Send Link
>> and
>> Send Page are in a Drop down menu in IE Tools>Mail and News or some have
> it
>> on the toolbar Mail Icon.
>>
>> I do have FF2.x and TB but have not been using as of late. IE and OE are
> the
>> Default programs. Once I did have FF and OE cross-linked but have since
>> reordered the programs to there related applications. I think this
> happened
>> sometime back and I have been just getting by without the links. It may
> have
>> been a security update. I do use the restricted security level in OE and
> the
>> IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you
> think
>> that might be the problem?
>>
>> DNSstuff is a toolset for ip,traceroute, etc.
>> I do not want to cross-post at this point because conversation is to far
>> along.
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:OsMfB%23NBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > 1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take
>> > advantage
>> of
>> > people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without
>> shelling
>> > out money?
>> >
>> > 2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for that
>> > matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under Tools>Mail
> and
>> > News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in
>> > what
>> it
>> > is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but I
>> would
>> > have suggested the same procedure to start with.
>> >
>> > 3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only* did
> IE
>> > Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much
>> > harmless,
>> but
>> > the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows over
>> the
>> > top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
>> > version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates.
> Broken
>> > Updates and DLL Hell result.)
>> >
>> > 4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed?
>> Because
>> > now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
>> > program took over as your default email program, stole those menu items
>> for
>> > itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or
> some
>> > other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying that's
>> what
>> > did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a
>> Registry
>> > issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.
>> >
>> > 5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express is
>> > listed as your default Mail and News reader.
>> >
>> > 6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will
>> > recognize
>> the
>> > issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs.
>> > You
>> DO
>> > NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they are
>> part
>> > of the same package.)
>> > microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>> > microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>> >
>> > Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and,
>> > as
> I
>> > mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the
> issue.
>> > "Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
>> > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> >
>> > 7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up
> with
>> > anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole thing.
> It
>> is
>> > certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of your
>> > system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gary S. Terhune
>> > MS-MVP Shell/User
>> > http://grystmill.com
>> >
>> > "Jim" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> > news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE?
>> > > I
>> > > have
>> > > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will
> this
>> > > be
>> > > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff
> email
>> > > link
>> > > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
>> > > corrupted.
>> > > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations like
>> > > start
>> > > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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