Reinstall OE

Well, I did a clean boot as described and it took awhile. I reinstalled
IEv.6 and it still has the problem with the drop down menu items for new
message, send a link and send a page.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:uCh65%23wAJHA.1396@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> What you want to do is to run a Repair of IE. In Control Panel, Add/Remove
> Programs. find the entry for Microsoft Internet Explorer and Internet
Tools,
> double-click it, choose Repair and let it go.
>
> It is wise to discontinue background applications and clean up TEMP and
TIF
> files, first, during this operation, and I strongly recommend the Clean
Boot
> procedures I describe here:
> http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>
> As your protective mechanisms, anti-virus, etc., should all end up turned
> off, the first thing you should do is to physically disconnect your system
> from any network that it is on, or if wireless, disconnect and disable the
> wireless adapter. You can also disable network adapters in Device Manager.
> If on dial-up only, use Connections tab of IE to set it to "Never dial"
for
> the procedure.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Jim" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE? I
> > have
> > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will this
> > be
> > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff email
> > link
> > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
> > corrupted.
> > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations like
> > start
> > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
> >
> >
>
>

Alright, I'm going back to your original post. Sorry, but I wasn't reading
carefully enough. But that post is the one that needs replying to.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
news:OH5zLSMBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Well, I did a clean boot as described and it took awhile. I reinstalled
> IEv.6 and it still has the problem with the drop down menu items for new
> message, send a link and send a page.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uCh65%23wAJHA.1396@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> What you want to do is to run a Repair of IE. In Control Panel,
>> Add/Remove
>> Programs. find the entry for Microsoft Internet Explorer and Internet
> Tools,
>> double-click it, choose Repair and let it go.
>>
>> It is wise to discontinue background applications and clean up TEMP and
> TIF
>> files, first, during this operation, and I strongly recommend the Clean
> Boot
>> procedures I describe here:
>> http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
>>
>> As your protective mechanisms, anti-virus, etc., should all end up turned
>> off, the first thing you should do is to physically disconnect your
>> system
>> from any network that it is on, or if wireless, disconnect and disable
>> the
>> wireless adapter. You can also disable network adapters in Device
>> Manager.
>> If on dial-up only, use Connections tab of IE to set it to "Never dial"
> for
>> the procedure.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Jim" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE? I
>> > have
>> > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will
>> > this
>> > be
>> > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff email
>> > link
>> > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
>> > corrupted.
>> > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations like
>> > start
>> > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take advantage of
people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without shelling
out money?

2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for that
matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under Tools>Mail and
News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in what it
is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but I would
have suggested the same procedure to start with.

3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only* did IE
Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much harmless, but
the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows over the
top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates. Broken
Updates and DLL Hell result.)

4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed? Because
now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
program took over as your default email program, stole those menu items for
itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or some
other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying that's what
did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a Registry
issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.

5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express is
listed as your default Mail and News reader.

6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will recognize the
issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs. You DO
NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they are part
of the same package.)
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress

Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and, as I
mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the issue.
"Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up with
anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole thing. It is
certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of your
system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Jim" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE? I
> have
> a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will this
> be
> affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff email
> link
> the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
> corrupted.
> Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations like
> start
> new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
>
>

The links in IE that enact operations in OE for New Message, Send Link and
Send Page are in a Drop down menu in IE Tools>Mail and News or some have it
on the toolbar Mail Icon.

I do have FF2.x and TB but have not been using as of late. IE and OE are the
Default programs. Once I did have FF and OE cross-linked but have since
reordered the programs to there related applications. I think this happened
sometime back and I have been just getting by without the links. It may have
been a security update. I do use the restricted security level in OE and the
IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you think
that might be the problem?

DNSstuff is a toolset for ip,traceroute, etc.
I do not want to cross-post at this point because conversation is to far
along.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:OsMfB%23NBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> 1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take advantage
of
> people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without
shelling
> out money?
>
> 2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for that
> matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under Tools>Mail and
> News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in what
it
> is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but I
would
> have suggested the same procedure to start with.
>
> 3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only* did IE
> Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much harmless,
but
> the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows over
the
> top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
> version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates. Broken
> Updates and DLL Hell result.)
>
> 4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed?
Because
> now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
> program took over as your default email program, stole those menu items
for
> itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or some
> other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying that's
what
> did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a
Registry
> issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.
>
> 5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express is
> listed as your default Mail and News reader.
>
> 6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will recognize
the
> issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs. You
DO
> NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they are
part
> of the same package.)
> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>
> Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and, as I
> mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the issue.
> "Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
> 7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up with
> anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole thing. It
is
> certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of your
> system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://grystmill.com
>
> "Jim" <invalid.RemoveThis@example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE? I
> > have
> > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will this
> > be
> > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff email
> > link
> > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
> > corrupted.
> > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations like
> > start
> > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
> >
> >
>
>

This is a Win98 group, so we are assuming you are using Win98, but in fact, are you?

The update you mention causing the problem is NOT listed as available for Win98, so
how did you install it exactly? Or are you using another operating system and
posting in the wrong group altogether?

Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for Outlook Express
(823353)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-018.mspx

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Jim" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:eBLnE5UBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> The links in IE that enact operations in OE for New Message, Send Link and
> Send Page are in a Drop down menu in IE Tools>Mail and News or some have it
> on the toolbar Mail Icon.
>
> I do have FF2.x and TB but have not been using as of late. IE and OE are the
> Default programs. Once I did have FF and OE cross-linked but have since
> reordered the programs to there related applications. I think this happened
> sometime back and I have been just getting by without the links. It may have
> been a security update. I do use the restricted security level in OE and the
> IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you think
> that might be the problem?
>
> DNSstuff is a toolset for ip,traceroute, etc.
> I do not want to cross-post at this point because conversation is to far
> along.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:OsMfB%23NBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> 1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take advantage
> of
>> people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without
> shelling
>> out money?
>>
>> 2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for that
>> matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under Tools>Mail and
>> News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in what
> it
>> is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but I
> would
>> have suggested the same procedure to start with.
>>
>> 3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only* did IE
>> Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much harmless,
> but
>> the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows over
> the
>> top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
>> version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates. Broken
>> Updates and DLL Hell result.)
>>
>> 4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed?
> Because
>> now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
>> program took over as your default email program, stole those menu items
> for
>> itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or some
>> other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying that's
> what
>> did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a
> Registry
>> issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.
>>
>> 5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express is
>> listed as your default Mail and News reader.
>>
>> 6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will recognize
> the
>> issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs. You
> DO
>> NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they are
> part
>> of the same package.)
>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>>
>> Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and, as I
>> mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the issue.
>> "Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>
>> 7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up with
>> anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole thing. It
> is
>> certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of your
>> system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://grystmill.com
>>
>> "Jim" <invalid.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE? I
>> > have
>> > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will this
>> > be
>> > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff email
>> > link
>> > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
>> > corrupted.
>> > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations like
>> > start
>> > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

KB823353 was offered for a while and then pulled from WU. Regardless of the
documentation, it works perfectly well on Win9x and gets rid of the ~.wab
file among other things. However, it causes problems if it was installed
*before* KB837009. The symptoms are that KB837009 is repeatedly offered at
WU. The solution is to uninstall 823353, install 837009, then reinstall
823353. I know of no other problems with KB 823353 on Win9x.

I *think* it was in the newsgroups that I went through this all some time in
the last few months if you want to search Google Groups.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"glee" <glee29 DeleteThis @spamindspring.com> wrote in message
news:%23%23CUEaXBJHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> This is a Win98 group, so we are assuming you are using Win98, but in
> fact, are you?
>
> The update you mention causing the problem is NOT listed as available for
> Win98, so how did you install it exactly? Or are you using another
> operating system and posting in the wrong group altogether?
>
> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-018: Cumulative Security Update for
> Outlook Express (823353)
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms04-018.mspx
>
> --
> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
> http://dts-l.net/
> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
>
>
> "Jim" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eBLnE5UBJHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> The links in IE that enact operations in OE for New Message, Send Link
>> and
>> Send Page are in a Drop down menu in IE Tools>Mail and News or some have
>> it
>> on the toolbar Mail Icon.
>>
>> I do have FF2.x and TB but have not been using as of late. IE and OE are
>> the
>> Default programs. Once I did have FF and OE cross-linked but have since
>> reordered the programs to there related applications. I think this
>> happened
>> sometime back and I have been just getting by without the links. It may
>> have
>> been a security update. I do use the restricted security level in OE and
>> the
>> IE restricted zone is high "custom" with all options disabled. Do you
>> think
>> that might be the problem?
>>
>> DNSstuff is a toolset for ip,traceroute, etc.
>> I do not want to cross-post at this point because conversation is to far
>> along.
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:OsMfB%23NBJHA.4816@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> 1. What is DSNSTUFF besides a scam site quickly set up to take advantage
>> of
>>> people like you who worry too much? How do I test my IE/OE without
>> shelling
>>> out money?
>>>
>>> 2. I had no idea what menus you're referring to in IE (or OE, for that
>>> matter) until I looked real hard and found them in IE under Tools>Mail
>>> and
>>> News... Please, when posting, attempt to be precise and detailed in what
>> it
>>> is you're referring to. My fault for not reading more carefully, but I
>> would
>>> have suggested the same procedure to start with.
>>>
>>> 3. I'm surprised that IE Repair didn't fix it and I hope you *only* did
>>> IE
>>> Repair, not a true reinstall of IE6. The former is pretty much harmless,
>> but
>>> the latter can cause real problems (just like reinstalling Windows over
>> the
>>> top of an existing installation, you end up reverting files to older
>>> version, replacing newer versions that came primarily from Updates.
>>> Broken
>>> Updates and DLL Hell result.)
>>>
>>> 4. Have you ever had any other browsers or email programs installed?
>> Because
>>> now that I've taken another look, my first thought is that some other
>>> program took over as your default email program, stole those menu items
>> for
>>> itself and failed to restore the situation to it's previous state. Or
>>> some
>>> other type of similar trick that disabled that menu. Not saying that's
>> what
>>> did it, but it's the first thought. I'm almost certain this isn't a
>> Registry
>>> issue which means it's a DLL or EXE.
>>>
>>> 5. Look in Internet Options, Programs tab and see if Outlook Express is
>>> listed as your default Mail and News reader.
>>>
>>> 6. Perhaps someone who spends all their time on IE and OE will recognize
>> the
>>> issue and have a solution, probably re-registering one or more DLLs. You
>> DO
>>> NOT want to uninstall and/or reinstall either of the programs (they are
>> part
>>> of the same package.)
>>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
>>> microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
>>>
>>> Please properly *cross-post* to those groups with your question, and, as
>>> I
>>> mentioned before, try to be more precise in your description of the
>>> issue.
>>> "Multi-posting vs Crossposting"
>>> http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>
>>> 7. Do you actually use those menu items? If not, and nobody comes up
>>> with
>>> anything in the above groups, I'd simply forget about the whole thing.
>>> It
>> is
>>> certainly not worth the hassle and possible further messing up of your
>>> system to do anything like uninstall/reinstall IE/OE.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> http://grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "Jim" <invalid DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:uoz8mUvAJHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> > If I uninstall OEv.6, where do I get a reinstall or upgrades for OE? I
>>> > have
>>> > a couple of issues about OE. I have a security update Q823353. Will
>>> > this
>>> > be
>>> > affected by a un-reinstall? Why do this; because when on dnsstuff
>>> > email
>>> > link
>>> > the website says the application OE is not installed properly or
>>> > corrupted.
>>> > Links in IEv.6 drop down menu do not connect to OEv.6 operations like
>>> > start
>>> > new message, send a link, send a page are not working.
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>