(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:17 pm
Post subject: Re: Prints test page okay BUT....... [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>win98>printing (more info?)
Yes, "Print to the following PORT" is what I meant. For method 1, you'd
click the "Capture Printer Port" button, put "USB002" in the lower "Path"
window and set your choice of LPT ports in the "Device" window. If that's
what you tried and it didn't work, sadly, I'm not surprised; Win98 just
doesn't do USB very well.
In order for "Sharing" to appear on the right click menu, you first have to
turn on Printer Sharing. Right click Network Neighborhood, select
"Properties", click the "File and Printer Sharing" button, and add a
checkmark to "I want to be able to allow others to print to my printer(s)".
With this done, right click the printer, click Sharing, click the "Shared
as" radio button, and give it a Share Name. The "Computername" of your PC is
available from Network Neighborhood properties on the "Identification" tab.
At this point, you will hopefully be able to plug "\\computername\sharename"
into the Path window. I don't know if this will work either, but it won't
hurt to try.
Hal
--
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<billurie DeleteThis @nospam.org> wrote in message
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> Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
> > I'm not exactly sure how to do this, however, it should be one of two
ways.
> > In both cases, you'll use the "Capture Printer Port" button. The first
> > thing to try is to use the path listed in the "Print to the following
path"
> > window of the "Details" tab. In the Capture box, use the LPT port of
your
> > choice in the "Device" window and the path shown on the Details tab as
the
> > path. If this doesn't work, the next thing to try would be the Windows
XP
> > method. Here, you would share the printer (right click the printer,
click
> > "Sharing", give it a name, click OK) and then use the share path (which
> > would be \\computername\sharename) in the path window in the capture
dialog
> > box.
> >
> > I'm not sure either method will work. Windows 98 doesn't have much USB
> > support, so I don't know if either "Path" is useable.
> >
> > Hal
> Hal, I want to emphasize that I am very grateful for your help.
> But as seems to happen to me all too often, the detailed help
> furnished doesn't fit what I see when I go there, or the advice
> given uses terms that leave me still in the dark.
>
> In the case we have here, I tried Method 1 first. My window doesn't
> show "Print to the following path", it says "Print to the following
> port". So I used that. It gave me four choices: USB002, COM1, LPT1, and
> FILE. Nothing I put there led to a successful choice at the "Capture"
> step, any choice of LPT1 thru LPT9 led to an error window with a
> big red 'X', saying "Network not supporting function" I would have loved
> to Capture LPT1 to USB002 (or vice versa) but I couldn't make it happen
>
> So I tried your "Windows XP method". I right clicked the printer, but
> of the choices that opened up, "Sharing" was not one of them, so I
> was blocked there. If you can get me past that hurdle, you might tell me
> where to find my 'computername'.....I tried opening up everything in
> "My Computer" but don't recall seeing a name. Sharename is easy, since
> you said "Give it a name".
>
> So I'm at a standstill in both methods, and I hate to keep bothering
> you. Is it possible that my 98, which is real original, right from
> its installation CD with no improvements, needs some updates
> or service packs? I could download these and save them in my XP OS,
> because in 98 I do not go on line.
>
> Incidentally, I'd be happy to work with you off this group if you feel
> it is not of widespread enough interest for the newsgroup. In a way
> that's more efficient.
>
> Bill L.
(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:26 pm
Post subject: Re: Prints test page okay BUT....... [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
> Yes, "Print to the following PORT" is what I meant. For method 1, you'd
> click the "Capture Printer Port" button, put "USB002" in the lower "Path"
> window and set your choice of LPT ports in the "Device" window. If that's
> what you tried and it didn't work, sadly, I'm not surprised; Win98 just
> doesn't do USB very well.
>
> In order for "Sharing" to appear on the right click menu, you first have to
> turn on Printer Sharing. Right click Network Neighborhood, select
> "Properties", click the "File and Printer Sharing" button, and add a
> checkmark to "I want to be able to allow others to print to my printer(s)".
> With this done, right click the printer, click Sharing, click the "Shared
> as" radio button, and give it a Share Name. The "Computername" of your PC is
> available from Network Neighborhood properties on the "Identification" tab.
> At this point, you will hopefully be able to plug "\\computername\sharename"
> into the Path window. I don't know if this will work either, but it won't
> hurt to try.
>
> Hal
Hal, as happens so often, it is one step forward, two steps back.
I tried the steps you listed, and as an aside I found my computer
name...one *I* certainly didn't give it (D8B7K9).I Right Clicked
Neighborhood, got to File & Printer Sharing button, checked "allow
others to print etcetera". Closed or OK, whatever, and now it hit
the fan. Window opened, "Copying files.....Insert 98 CDROM". Did
that, waited, pressed OK, and now I got "Can't find Secur32.dll".
Below that, "Copy from C:\Windows\options\CABS", tried a few times,
had to abort the whole procedure and come back to say "*HELP*".
In the process of leading me past the above hurdles, you might
consider this: I have a CD which is to Upgrade 98 to 98ME. Do
you feel that ME is more modern and maybe more complete?
Incidentally I went to Microsoft download site looking for
SPs for 98, and found nothing applicable other than an IE upgrade. I
already have IE 6, good enough.
Over to you...and thanks. I hope you have as much patience as I do.
(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Prints test page okay BUT....... [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I doubt that a Win98 => Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The
usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the
original media (which would probably be Windows 9, then re-run the 98 to
98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install
disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk.
Hal
--
Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh DeleteThis @kvoa.com
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
<billurie DeleteThis @nospam.org> wrote in message news:44EFB140.4060503@nospam.org...
> Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
> > Yes, "Print to the following PORT" is what I meant. For method 1, you'd
> > click the "Capture Printer Port" button, put "USB002" in the lower
"Path"
> > window and set your choice of LPT ports in the "Device" window. If
that's
> > what you tried and it didn't work, sadly, I'm not surprised; Win98 just
> > doesn't do USB very well.
> >
> > In order for "Sharing" to appear on the right click menu, you first have
to
> > turn on Printer Sharing. Right click Network Neighborhood, select
> > "Properties", click the "File and Printer Sharing" button, and add a
> > checkmark to "I want to be able to allow others to print to my
printer(s)".
> > With this done, right click the printer, click Sharing, click the
"Shared
> > as" radio button, and give it a Share Name. The "Computername" of your
PC is
> > available from Network Neighborhood properties on the "Identification"
tab.
> > At this point, you will hopefully be able to plug
"\\computername\sharename"
> > into the Path window. I don't know if this will work either, but it
won't
> > hurt to try.
> >
> > Hal
> Hal, as happens so often, it is one step forward, two steps back.
> I tried the steps you listed, and as an aside I found my computer
> name...one *I* certainly didn't give it (D8B7K9).I Right Clicked
> Neighborhood, got to File & Printer Sharing button, checked "allow
> others to print etcetera". Closed or OK, whatever, and now it hit
> the fan. Window opened, "Copying files.....Insert 98 CDROM". Did
> that, waited, pressed OK, and now I got "Can't find Secur32.dll".
> Below that, "Copy from C:\Windows\options\CABS", tried a few times,
> had to abort the whole procedure and come back to say "*HELP*".
> In the process of leading me past the above hurdles, you might
> consider this: I have a CD which is to Upgrade 98 to 98ME. Do
> you feel that ME is more modern and maybe more complete?
>
> Incidentally I went to Microsoft download site looking for
> SPs for 98, and found nothing applicable other than an IE upgrade. I
> already have IE 6, good enough.
>
> Over to you...and thanks. I hope you have as much patience as I do.
>
> Bill L.
(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Prints test page okay BUT....... [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
> I doubt that a Win98 => Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The
> usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the
> original media (which would probably be Windows 9, then re-run the 98 to
> 98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install
> disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk.
>
> Hal
Hal, by now I've moved forward but with no more success.
I used my WIN98>>Windows ME Upgrade (*ME*, not SE), and
everything that I reported before is still where I am
blocked. Re-read my notes and review where I am blocked, and in the
light of 98 ME (not SE) perhaps you can shine some more light.
And thanks for staying with me.
(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Prints test page okay BUT....... [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I doubt that a Win98 => Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The
usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the
original media (which would probably be Windows 9, then re-run the 98 to
98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install
disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk.
Hal
--
Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh.RemoveThis@kvoa.com
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
<billurie.RemoveThis@nospam.org> wrote in message news:44EFB140.4060503@nospam.org...
> Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
> > Yes, "Print to the following PORT" is what I meant. For method 1, you'd
> > click the "Capture Printer Port" button, put "USB002" in the lower
"Path"
> > window and set your choice of LPT ports in the "Device" window. If
that's
> > what you tried and it didn't work, sadly, I'm not surprised; Win98 just
> > doesn't do USB very well.
> >
> > In order for "Sharing" to appear on the right click menu, you first have
to
> > turn on Printer Sharing. Right click Network Neighborhood, select
> > "Properties", click the "File and Printer Sharing" button, and add a
> > checkmark to "I want to be able to allow others to print to my
printer(s)".
> > With this done, right click the printer, click Sharing, click the
"Shared
> > as" radio button, and give it a Share Name. The "Computername" of your
PC is
> > available from Network Neighborhood properties on the "Identification"
tab.
> > At this point, you will hopefully be able to plug
"\\computername\sharename"
> > into the Path window. I don't know if this will work either, but it
won't
> > hurt to try.
> >
> > Hal
> Hal, as happens so often, it is one step forward, two steps back.
> I tried the steps you listed, and as an aside I found my computer
> name...one *I* certainly didn't give it (D8B7K9).I Right Clicked
> Neighborhood, got to File & Printer Sharing button, checked "allow
> others to print etcetera". Closed or OK, whatever, and now it hit
> the fan. Window opened, "Copying files.....Insert 98 CDROM". Did
> that, waited, pressed OK, and now I got "Can't find Secur32.dll".
> Below that, "Copy from C:\Windows\options\CABS", tried a few times,
> had to abort the whole procedure and come back to say "*HELP*".
> In the process of leading me past the above hurdles, you might
> consider this: I have a CD which is to Upgrade 98 to 98ME. Do
> you feel that ME is more modern and maybe more complete?
>
> Incidentally I went to Microsoft download site looking for
> SPs for 98, and found nothing applicable other than an IE upgrade. I
> already have IE 6, good enough.
>
> Over to you...and thanks. I hope you have as much patience as I do.
>
> Bill L.
(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:12 am
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Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
> I doubt that a Win98 => Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The
> usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the
> original media (which would probably be Windows 9, then re-run the 98 to
> 98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install
> disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk.
>
> Hal
Thanks for staying with me, Hal.
One important question: You're referring to Win 98>> Win98SE ....
My software is Win98>>Win98 *Me*. I do have the full install
disk but hate to go back that far. Does what you say about SE
apply exactly with ME also?
The chipset and drivers that came with this XP machine are
S3 Pro Savage DDR ....and I went to S3's site and found drivers
for 98, all types. Downloaded them, copied them to 98 in a 'temps3'
directory, and then booted up the 98 system. Dbl-clicked on the
downloaded zipped file and it automatically unzipped in that
directory. That's the good news. The bad news is that there is no
'Setup' or 'Install' or any executable file. Perhaps I have to install
it via a Device Manager or equivalent. Could I impose on you for
step-by-step instructions for doing so? And thanks again.
(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:04 pm
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First off, there isn't a "Windows 98 Me". Windows 98 Second Edition (SE) was
replaced by Windows Millenium Edition (ME); it was short lived and fell in
between 98 and XP Home. As to the install question from a couple posts ago,
you need to redirect the install routine to your CDROM; it was looking for
Secur32.dll on your main hard drive ("Copy from C:\Windows\options\CABS").
As to the display driver, 'Control
Panel|Display|Settings|Advanced|Adapter|Change' should allow you to installed
the updated driver.
Hal
--
Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh.DeleteThis@kvoa.com
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
"billurie@nospam.org" wrote:
> Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I] wrote:
> > I doubt that a Win98 => Win98SE CD will have the correct files on it. The
> > usual method for adding Windows components is to install them from the
> > original media (which would probably be Windows 9, then re-run the 98 to
> > 98SE upgrade. The only 98SE disk that would work would be a 98SE install
> > disk or a 95 to 98SE upgrade. Simply put, you need a full install disk.
> >
> > Hal
> Thanks for staying with me, Hal.
> One important question: You're referring to Win 98>> Win98SE ....
> My software is Win98>>Win98 *Me*. I do have the full install
> disk but hate to go back that far. Does what you say about SE
> apply exactly with ME also?
>
> The chipset and drivers that came with this XP machine are
> S3 Pro Savage DDR ....and I went to S3's site and found drivers
> for 98, all types. Downloaded them, copied them to 98 in a 'temps3'
> directory, and then booted up the 98 system. Dbl-clicked on the
> downloaded zipped file and it automatically unzipped in that
> directory. That's the good news. The bad news is that there is no
> 'Setup' or 'Install' or any executable file. Perhaps I have to install
> it via a Device Manager or equivalent. Could I impose on you for
> step-by-step instructions for doing so? And thanks again.
>
> /WBL/
>
> --
> William B. Lurie
>
(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:34 pm
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Hal Hostetler [MVP-P/I] wrote:
> First off, there isn't a "Windows 98 Me". Windows 98 Second Edition (SE) was
> replaced by Windows Millenium Edition (ME); it was short lived and fell in
> between 98 and XP Home. As to the install question from a couple posts ago,
> you need to redirect the install routine to your CDROM; it was looking for
> Secur32.dll on your main hard drive ("Copy from C:\Windows\options\CABS").
>
> As to the display driver, 'Control
> Panel|Display|Settings|Advanced|Adapter|Change' should allow you to installed
> the updated driver.
>
> Hal
As I posted elsewhere, Hal, the display driver installed
and I have good resolution. My next problem is now in
the hands of the ME group, namely, I tried to install
a modem and now am in a "not enough memory to run MS-DOS prompt",
and I'm working with Mike Maltby there, who feels it is not
a not enough memory problem, but system resources, 64K stacks,
or some such. He's gone to bed already (U.K.) but when I sign
in, early tomorrow, he may have sent me the next step to
investigate.
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