(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:54 pm
Post subject: Re: New PC, ME with old BIOS Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsme>setup (more info?)
Okay, fellers.... I'll remove the "?" devices
in Safe Mode and reboot, and see if it finds
enough to proceed to Normal Mode. And thanx.
Mart wrote:
> William asked :-
>
>> What's your next advice? Shall I try to remove the devices
>> with the yellow question marks?
>
> Yes, the fact that the HDD is not in its 'native' environment would mean
> that any hardware (previously) detected and installed will have the drivers
> etc., setup for the original PC on the HDD.
>
> The 'new' PC may have *similar* devices, but not exactly the same so those
> original drivers are probably unsuitable, but perhaps not sufficiently so
> for the newly run PC to want to install fresh drivers. The clue is probably
> the "PCI Multimedia Device" - possibly a sound card.
>
> However, the 'solution' as you already suggested, is to 'Remove' ALL the
> items you listed in Device Manager (using Dev.Man) - which you must do in
> Safe Mode. Then re-boot and let WinMe re-detect and install NEW drivers (You
> might be called on to supply the appropriate drivers as WinMe (re-)detects
> the 'new' hardware, so you might need any driver disks/CD's supplied with
> the 'new' PC)
>
> Hopefully, that will get you past the "flashing 'dash' prompt" you mentioned
> in your reply to Zee and good luck.
>
> Mart
>
>
> "William B. Lurie" <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:uSY6X$klIHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Okay, Mart, I went thar and looked again. In Device Manager,
>> there are *no* Exclamation Points or errors, but down in
>> "Other Devices" there are 3 yellow question marks....one
>> at PCI Multimedia Device. and one each at USB device.
>>
>> I did full system scandisk including surface check, with
>> no errors found.
>>
>> What's your next advice? Shall I try to remove the devices
>> with the yellow question marks?
>>
>> Mart wrote:
>>> Besides Zee's most important question, when in Safe Mode take a look in
>>> Device Manager and make a note of any/all errors, conflicts and multiple
>>> entries (especially modems, video or sound cards and their drivers).
>>> Might just reveal a potential hardware issue.
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "oops!!" <notme.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23sqV%237hlIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> William,
>>>>
>>>> What happens exactly when you start Windows in Normal Mode?
>>>>
>>>> Zee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:ugr8YgflIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> That's the best I can describe it.
>>>>> I have a hard drive from my old PC
>>>>> with ME on it. It won't boot in Normal
>>>>> Mode in my new PC, I suspect because
>>>>> it was mad with a different BIOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it boots just fine in Safe Mode.
>>>>> Is there a way to get around this?
>>>>> (I hope I made it clear enough).
>>>>> Thanks.
>
(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:58 pm
Post subject: Re: New PC, ME with old BIOS Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Zee, don't forget, this HDD is NOT the original for this PC, it was set-up
on a different PC so much of the hardware (and Registry) will be different
and therefore SR will not help.
Mart
"oops!!" <notme.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> William,
>
> Have you tried using System Restore in Safe Mode to go back to a date just
> before the problem started?
>
> Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore.
>
> See if that works for you.
>
> Zee
>
>
>
>
> "William B. Lurie" <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:ONxvoYklIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you both for prompt response. I will report on
>> these subjects later today. Answer to Zee's question is, as I recall
>> it, that the bright ME logo screen appears, very briefly, then
>> screen goes blank, black, with flashing 'dash' prompt in
>> upper left corner, and I found no way to get out of that 'hang'
>> mode other than to turn the power off.
>>
>> Mart wrote:
>>> Besides Zee's most important question, when in Safe Mode take a look in
>>> Device Manager and make a note of any/all errors, conflicts and multiple
>>> entries (especially modems, video or sound cards and their drivers).
>>> Might just reveal a potential hardware issue.
>>>
>>> Mart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "oops!!" <notme.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23sqV%237hlIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> William,
>>>>
>>>> What happens exactly when you start Windows in Normal Mode?
>>>>
>>>> Zee
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "William B. Lurie" <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:ugr8YgflIHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> That's the best I can describe it.
>>>>> I have a hard drive from my old PC
>>>>> with ME on it. It won't boot in Normal
>>>>> Mode in my new PC, I suspect because
>>>>> it was mad with a different BIOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it boots just fine in Safe Mode.
>>>>> Is there a way to get around this?
>>>>> (I hope I made it clear enough).
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:09 pm
Post subject: Re: New PC, ME with old BIOS Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
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> Zee, don't forget, this HDD is NOT the original for this PC, it was set-up
> on a different PC so much of the hardware (and Registry) will be different
> and therefore SR will not help.
>
> Mart
You're right, SR can't help at all, I was on a different wave length.
Wondering if the OP installed the drivers for the new motherboard...?
(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:39 pm
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"William B. Lurie" <billurie.DeleteThis@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Sorry.....I do no System Restore points. In the ME
> days, I used to make clones for backup but I don't
> have those any more.
It wouldn't have worked anyway, it was an incorrect suggestion.
(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:42 pm
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"William B. Lurie" <billurie DeleteThis @nospam.net> wrote:
>That's the best I can describe it.
>I have a hard drive from my old PC
>with ME on it. It won't boot in Normal
>Mode in my new PC, I suspect because
>it was mad with a different BIOS.
>
>However, it boots just fine in Safe Mode.
>Is there a way to get around this?
>(I hope I made it clear enough).
>Thanks.
If you have an installation CD for the Windows Me then the best way to
resolve these issues is to boot with that CD and do a "Repair Install"
of Windows Me.
(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:54 pm
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If that doesn't work you might want to try also removing the video
controller in Safe Mode which might manage to get you to normal mode
albeit in VGA mode until you install the correct driver for the card in
the new box.
If that also fails then remove ALL device in the Device Manger whilst in
Safe Mode and then try booting to Normal Mode. This should then allow all
of the new hardware to be (re)detected and the appropriate drivers to be
installed.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.TakeThisOut@gmail.com
William B. Lurie <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote:
> Okay, fellers.... I'll remove the "?" devices
> in Safe Mode and reboot, and see if it finds
> enough to proceed to Normal Mode. And thanx.
(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:54 pm
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Mike M wrote:
> If that doesn't work you might want to try also removing the video
> controller in Safe Mode which might manage to get you to normal mode
> albeit in VGA mode until you install the correct driver for the card in
> the new box.
>
> If that also fails then remove ALL device in the Device Manger whilst in
> Safe Mode and then try booting to Normal Mode. This should then allow
> all of the new hardware to be (re)detected and the appropriate drivers
> to be installed.
To Mart and Mike M.:
I did the first phase.
It acted exactly the same, hung at the '-' prompt.
I am considering what Mike recommends above,
but I hesitate, because if I remove *all* devices, will it necessarily
then install new drivers on boot-up? Could I not possibly be in a
condition where it won't even boot to Safe Mode?
And when you say "ALL devices".....that's quite a list; but you want me
to remove everything that appears on the list, correct?
(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:54 pm
Post subject: Re: New PC, ME with old BIOS Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
William, Mike's advice is perfectly valid, (thanks Mike) especially now as
its still hanging at the '-' prompt. I realised that I also should have
suggested that you 'Remove' ALL devices under these circumstances - but only
*after* I'd pressed the Send button <g>
As Mike has alluded, WinMe will (re)detect ALL hardware and (subject to
specialised non-MS drivers) set up as if it were a fresh installation. WinMe
will install generic drivers if it can't find manufacturers drivers, but
should at least get you up and running.
Mart
"William B. Lurie" <billurie.DeleteThis@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Mike M wrote:
>> If that doesn't work you might want to try also removing the video
>> controller in Safe Mode which might manage to get you to normal mode
>> albeit in VGA mode until you install the correct driver for the card in
>> the new box.
>>
>> If that also fails then remove ALL device in the Device Manger whilst in
>> Safe Mode and then try booting to Normal Mode. This should then allow
>> all of the new hardware to be (re)detected and the appropriate drivers to
>> be installed.
> To Mart and Mike M.:
> I did the first phase.
> It acted exactly the same, hung at the '-' prompt.
>
> I am considering what Mike recommends above,
> but I hesitate, because if I remove *all* devices, will it necessarily
> then install new drivers on boot-up? Could I not possibly be in a
> condition where it won't even boot to Safe Mode?
> And when you say "ALL devices".....that's quite a list; but you want me
> to remove everything that appears on the list, correct?
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