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Mike M1

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(Msg. 73) Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:56 pm
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William B. Lurie <billurie RemoveThis @nospam.net> wrote:

> I guess my last question is, after installing Win98
> in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade
> CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was
> it just perfect when released?

290700 is essential for system restore to work and I would personally
advise you install all the critical patches that are available for Win Me
from the Windows Update site including IE 6 SP1 but whether you move from
WMP7 to WMP9 is very much up to you. If you have problems in installing
any of these patches or you find that installing one breaks things, for
example you are suddenly unable to access Help without encountering an
error post back and either Mart or myself will try and help you out.
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Mike Maltby
mike.maltby RemoveThis @gmail.com
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William B. Lurie

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(Msg. 74) Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:56 pm
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Mike M wrote:
> William B. Lurie <billurie.RemoveThis@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> I guess my last question is, after installing Win98
>> in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade
>> CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was
>> it just perfect when released?
>
> 290700 is essential for system restore to work and I would personally
> advise you install all the critical patches that are available for Win
> Me from the Windows Update site including IE 6 SP1 but whether you move
> from WMP7 to WMP9 is very much up to you. If you have problems in
> installing any of these patches or you find that installing one breaks
> things, for example you are suddenly unable to access Help without
> encountering an error post back and either Mart or myself will try and
> help you out.
Thank you, Mike. I now have my VPC with 98 running and
also upgraded to Win ME from my upgrade CD. I'll see if I can find the
patches for ME.
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William B. Lurie

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(Msg. 75) Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:57 pm
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William B. Lurie wrote:
> Mike M wrote:
>> William B. Lurie <billurie DeleteThis @nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I guess my last question is, after installing Win98
>>> in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade
>>> CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was
>>> it just perfect when released?
>>
>> 290700 is essential for system restore to work and I would personally
>> advise you install all the critical patches that are available for Win
>> Me from the Windows Update site including IE 6 SP1 but whether you
>> move from WMP7 to WMP9 is very much up to you. If you have problems
>> in installing any of these patches or you find that installing one
>> breaks things, for example you are suddenly unable to access Help
>> without encountering an error post back and either Mart or myself will
>> try and help you out.
> Thank you, Mike. I now have my VPC with 98 running and
> also upgraded to Win ME from my upgrade CD. I'll see if I can find the
> patches for ME.
Mike, already I need help. I went to Microsoft website and first
found that I needed to be there via IE, not my usual Mozilla.
So I went via IE7 and tried to find the downloads for ME. I
kept getting to where it tested my machine to see what I needed
but I didn't need to know what's available for my XP but for ME
.....and in my VPC (ME) I had no intention of going online.
So please tell me, do I HAVE to install and activate Internet
software in my VPC ME in order to get the ME Upgrades? Isn't
there a way I can download them while online here in XP, save
them and install them in ME when I go there?
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Mike M1

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(Msg. 76) Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:42 pm
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You can only obtain updates from the Windows Update site using the PC to
be updated. For the last year or so you can only obtain updates for Win
9x systems from the Windows Update Catalogue site using a Win 9x system.
XP and later systems go to a more recent version of the Windows Update
Catalogue site that has no Win 9x content.
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Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.RemoveThis@gmail.com


William B. Lurie <billurie.RemoveThis@nospam.net> wrote:

> Mike, already I need help. I went to Microsoft website and first
> found that I needed to be there via IE, not my usual Mozilla.
> So I went via IE7 and tried to find the downloads for ME. I
> kept getting to where it tested my machine to see what I needed
> but I didn't need to know what's available for my XP but for ME
> ....and in my VPC (ME) I had no intention of going online.
> So please tell me, do I HAVE to install and activate Internet
> software in my VPC ME in order to get the ME Upgrades? Isn't
> there a way I can download them while online here in XP, save
> them and install them in ME when I go there?
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William B. Lurie

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(Msg. 77) Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:42 pm
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Mike M wrote:
> You can only obtain updates from the Windows Update site using the PC to
> be updated. For the last year or so you can only obtain updates for Win
> 9x systems from the Windows Update Catalogue site using a Win 9x system.
> XP and later systems go to a more recent version of the Windows Update
> Catalogue site that has no Win 9x content.
Okay, then I'll use the basic system until some time
when I might go online with it. The intended use which
triggered this exercise is in a self-contained application
package.
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(Msg. 78) Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:09 pm
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William B. Lurie <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote:

> Okay, then I'll use the basic system until some time
> when I might go online with it. The intended use which
> triggered this exercise is in a self-contained application
> package.

What problems do you have when running the package in Win98/Me
compatibility mode on XP?
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William B. Lurie

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(Msg. 79) Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:09 pm
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Mike M wrote:
> William B. Lurie <billurie RemoveThis @nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Okay, then I'll use the basic system until some time
>> when I might go online with it. The intended use which
>> triggered this exercise is in a self-contained application
>> package.
>
> What problems do you have when running the package in Win98/Me
> compatibility mode on XP?
Mike, I don't understand your terminology. The term
'compatibility mode' is (surprisingly, I guess) new to me.

Up to 18 months ago I had a 2.1GHz PC in which I formatted
an HDD and installed Win98 and upgraded to Win ME. I believe
that it had 768MB Ram. PC died 18 months ago but I kept the
HDD which, as you know I can pull all the files off but cannot
make its OS operate. That's where I started bugging you most
valuable people.

My old Dos programs ran fine from command prompt on that Win ME.
I made graphs on screen, and captured them to IrfanView and file.
If I try to run the same programs by copying them over to
XP and running them from either Windows Explorer or CMD,
the programs run, but I have not found a way to get the graphs that
they produce onscreen, to print, or to a file, I can't Screen Capture
by 'normal' methods, or by any of half a dozen 'third party' capture
programs that I've tried.

This has been a long story, and maybe most of what I'm telling
you is extraneous.....but I'm trying to be complete.
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Mart

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(Msg. 80) Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:48 pm
Post subject: Re: New PC, ME with old BIOS - Thread's too long!! [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Sorry guys - looks like the sub-thread is too long, it won't let me add a
further reply to
your message Mike.

FWIW - I've started new sub thread which was only to say :-

> example you are suddenly unable to access Help without encountering an
> error post back and either Mart or myself will try and help you out.

Only as far as I am able Mike, don't forget I don't have VPC <g>

Mart


William B. Lurie <billurie.RemoveThis@nospam.net> wrote:

> I guess my last question is, after installing Win98
> in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade
> CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was
> it just perfect when released?

290700 is essential for system restore to work and I would personally
advise you install all the critical patches that are available for Win Me
from the Windows Update site including IE 6 SP1 but whether you move from
WMP7 to WMP9 is very much up to you. If you have problems in installing
any of these patches or you find that installing one breaks things, for
example you are suddenly unable to access Help without encountering an
error post back and either Mart or myself will try and help you out.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.RemoveThis@gmail.com




"William B. Lurie" <billurie.RemoveThis@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> That's the best I can describe it.
> I have a hard drive from my old PC
> with ME on it. It won't boot in Normal
> Mode in my new PC, I suspect because
> it was mad with a different BIOS.
>
> However, it boots just fine in Safe Mode.
> Is there a way to get around this?
> (I hope I made it clear enough).
> Thanks.
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