(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:54 pm
Post subject: Re: New PC, ME with old BIOS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsme>setup (more info?)
Fine, Mart. Just confirm for me that you want me to remove *all*
the stuff in that list of devices, reboot in *Normal* mode?
Mart wrote:
> William, Mike's advice is perfectly valid, (thanks Mike) especially now as
> its still hanging at the '-' prompt. I realised that I also should have
> suggested that you 'Remove' ALL devices under these circumstances - but only
> *after* I'd pressed the Send button <g>
>
> As Mike has alluded, WinMe will (re)detect ALL hardware and (subject to
> specialised non-MS drivers) set up as if it were a fresh installation. WinMe
> will install generic drivers if it can't find manufacturers drivers, but
> should at least get you up and running.
>
> Mart
>
>
>
> "William B. Lurie" <billurie.RemoveThis@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:%23G3X9mnlIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Mike M wrote:
>>> If that doesn't work you might want to try also removing the video
>>> controller in Safe Mode which might manage to get you to normal mode
>>> albeit in VGA mode until you install the correct driver for the card in
>>> the new box.
>>>
>>> If that also fails then remove ALL device in the Device Manger whilst in
>>> Safe Mode and then try booting to Normal Mode. This should then allow
>>> all of the new hardware to be (re)detected and the appropriate drivers to
>>> be installed.
>> To Mart and Mike M.:
>> I did the first phase.
>> It acted exactly the same, hung at the '-' prompt.
>>
>> I am considering what Mike recommends above,
>> but I hesitate, because if I remove *all* devices, will it necessarily
>> then install new drivers on boot-up? Could I not possibly be in a
>> condition where it won't even boot to Safe Mode?
>> And when you say "ALL devices".....that's quite a list; but you want me
>> to remove everything that appears on the list, correct?
>
>
(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:49 pm
Post subject: Re: New PC, ME with old BIOS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
William B. Lurie <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote:
> Fine, Mart. Just confirm for me that you want me to remove *all*
> the stuff in that list of devices, reboot in *Normal* mode?
Yes, remove _everything_. The one driver that you can't really change in
this way is ACPI power management which if present but not supported by
the bios on the new motherboard may require a clean install of Win Me to
correct.
Removing all the devices in the device manager and rebooting will put the
system back to the state it would be, driver wise, following a clean
install of the operating system. Once you have the system in this state
you will need to install the various drivers required for your hardware
starting with the chipset drivers for your new motherboard.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.TakeThisOut@gmail.com
(Msg. 19) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:49 pm
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Mike M wrote:
> William B. Lurie <billurie DeleteThis @nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Fine, Mart. Just confirm for me that you want me to remove *all*
>> the stuff in that list of devices, reboot in *Normal* mode?
>
> Yes, remove _everything_. The one driver that you can't really change
> in this way is ACPI power management which if present but not supported
> by the bios on the new motherboard may require a clean install of Win Me
> to correct.
>
> Removing all the devices in the device manager and rebooting will put
> the system back to the state it would be, driver wise, following a clean
> install of the operating system. Once you have the system in this state
> you will need to install the various drivers required for your hardware
> starting with the chipset drivers for your new motherboard.
Hmmmmm. ACPI doesn't scare me; the new system has it. But I thought
everything would install itself when I reboot in Normal Mode. If it's
going to prompt me, and ask if it should go looking for them, that I
can live with. But if it just sits there not working, I'll be worse
off than I am now. Now I'm scared again.
(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:09 pm
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Thanks, Ron. The CD that I have is what I used years ago, an "upgrade"
from 98 to M.E. And there's no XP or Vista involved here.
Ron Martell wrote:
> "William B. Lurie" <billurie DeleteThis @nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> That's the best I can describe it.
>> I have a hard drive from my old PC
>> with ME on it. It won't boot in Normal
>> Mode in my new PC, I suspect because
>> it was mad with a different BIOS.
>>
>> However, it boots just fine in Safe Mode.
>> Is there a way to get around this?
>> (I hope I made it clear enough).
>> Thanks.
>
> If you have an installation CD for the Windows Me then the best way to
> resolve these issues is to boot with that CD and do a "Repair Install"
> of Windows Me.
>
> These instructions are for Windows XP but the procedure for Vista is
> pretty well the same.
> http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.html >
> Good luck
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:19 pm
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PS. if you've not already found out by now - your mouse will probably cease
to function when you 'Remove' it, so you'll have to navigate via the cursor
(and Tab) keys to continue - until you reboot and re-detect it.
Mart
"Mike M" <No_Spam RemoveThis @Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message
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> William B. Lurie <billurie RemoveThis @nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Fine, Mart. Just confirm for me that you want me to remove *all*
>> the stuff in that list of devices, reboot in *Normal* mode?
>
> Yes, remove _everything_. The one driver that you can't really change in
> this way is ACPI power management which if present but not supported by
> the bios on the new motherboard may require a clean install of Win Me to
> correct.
>
> Removing all the devices in the device manager and rebooting will put the
> system back to the state it would be, driver wise, following a clean
> install of the operating system. Once you have the system in this state
> you will need to install the various drivers required for your hardware
> starting with the chipset drivers for your new motherboard.
> --
> Mike Maltby
> mike.maltby RemoveThis @gmail.com
>
>
>
>
(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:24 pm
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> ... But if it just sits there not working, I'll be worse
> off than I am now. Now I'm scared again.
No, not really William, you won't be any worse than you are now - you'll
still be able to boot into Safe Mode. Don't forget that these drivers are
required for Normal Mode only.
However, you mentioned:- "Other Devices" there are 3 yellow question
marks....one
at PCI Multimedia Device. and one each at USB device.
Have any of these re-appeared (in Safe Mode) since you removed them before?
If so, this device (a USB adapter of some sort?) would appear to be where
the conflict is (driver issues) and should be electrically disconnected
until you are able either determine what it is or find the appropriate
drivers for it.
Mart
"William B. Lurie" <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Mike M wrote:
>> William B. Lurie <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Fine, Mart. Just confirm for me that you want me to remove *all*
>>> the stuff in that list of devices, reboot in *Normal* mode?
>>
>> Yes, remove _everything_. The one driver that you can't really change in
>> this way is ACPI power management which if present but not supported by
>> the bios on the new motherboard may require a clean install of Win Me to
>> correct.
>>
>> Removing all the devices in the device manager and rebooting will put the
>> system back to the state it would be, driver wise, following a clean
>> install of the operating system. Once you have the system in this state
>> you will need to install the various drivers required for your hardware
>> starting with the chipset drivers for your new motherboard.
> Hmmmmm. ACPI doesn't scare me; the new system has it. But I thought
> everything would install itself when I reboot in Normal Mode. If it's
> going to prompt me, and ask if it should go looking for them, that I
> can live with. But if it just sits there not working, I'll be worse
> off than I am now. Now I'm scared again.
(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:25 pm
Post subject: Re: New PC, ME with old BIOS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
At the risk of repeating myself. When you reboot your system following
removal of all the devices in the Device Manager the system will be in the
same state it would be, driver wise, that it would be following a clean
install of the operating system from a Win Me CD. At this point what you
then have to do is no different from what you would do following a clean
install of Win Me.
Note that removing all entries in Dev.Man is standard procedure whenever a
system disk is moved to new hardware regardless of the operating system in
use. In this respect Win Me is no different from either Win 98, W2K or
XP.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby.TakeThisOut@gmail.com
William B. Lurie <billurie.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote:
> Hmmmmm. ACPI doesn't scare me; the new system has it. But I thought
> everything would install itself when I reboot in Normal Mode. If it's
> going to prompt me, and ask if it should go looking for them, that I
> can live with. But if it just sits there not working, I'll be worse
> off than I am now. Now I'm scared again.
(Msg. 24) Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:57 am
Post subject: Re: New PC, ME with old BIOS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Ron,
Reinstalling Win Me over itself is a somewhat dangerous route to take if
either Internet Explorer 6 or Windows Media Player 9 have been installed.
In both cases it is essential to first take action so as to prevent major
subsequent player/browser problems.
Incidentally the user is talking here of Windows Millennium and not of
either Vista or XP.
--
Mike Maltby
mike.maltby RemoveThis @gmail.com
Ron Martell <ron.martell RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> If you have an installation CD for the Windows Me then the best way to
> resolve these issues is to boot with that CD and do a "Repair Install"
> of Windows Me.
>
> These instructions are for Windows XP but the procedure for Vista is
> pretty well the same.
> http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.html >
> Good luck
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