"Shane" <shanebeatson.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Basically, talking about the twins - which it sounds very much like what
> your brother would have had, then, there was the 500 Dominator, the 600
> Dominator, the 650 SS - and the 700 Atlas - which had a Matchless engine.
> Then came the various 750 Commandos and eventually the 850 Commando. All
> very wonderful machines!
>
> Joan Archer wrote:
>> I can't remember but I'm sure my brother had one, among others, I
>> remember hearing something about one that was a 700 something or
>> other, I was given a ride on that one. I know that at the time it was
>> supposed to be quite a powerful one. This is going back into the 50's
>>
>>
>> "Shane" <shanebeatson.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eg6eufJNJHA.4456@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> No Joan, unfortunately not. And they don't even make the
>>> rotary-engined Command-er that did so very well in the road racing
>>> not so long ago! Even when we can *still* make something really well the
>>> powers-that-be allow
>>> it to fail.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>> "Joan Archer" <joanarcher.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Oh0tvrINJHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Do they still make them ?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Joan Archer
>>>> http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher >>>> http://lachsoft.com/photogallery >>>>
>>>> <shanebeatson.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:f7a00dce-cb0f-4d3d-9066-bcd58c4e0d69@q35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Oct 22, 3:32 pm, "Heirloom" <nobodyh....RemoveThis@noplacelike.hom> wrote:
>>>>>> "Norton for Dummies"............what's wrong with that??? Who
>>>>>> else would
>>>>>> anything Norton be for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Norton for Commandos?
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that is a bike!
>>>>>
>>>>> Shane
>
>
(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:10 pm
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<lol> Thought so, don't worry I didn't follow it all it's a man thing <g>
"Heather" <figgyd DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Yep....hence the silence......lol.
>
> Figgs
>
> "Joan Archer" <joanarcher DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OchiHSuNJHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I hope you realise that you've completely lost her now Shane <g>
>>
>> --
>> Joan Archer
>> http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher >> http://lachsoft.com/photogallery >>
>> "Shane" <shanebeatson DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e6huyBqNJHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Heather wrote:
>>>> He was half asleep when I asked him your question and he laughed and
>>>> said he did miss it.....lol. Haven't a clue what you two are talking
>>>> about!!
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Being kicked up the arse by God!
>>>
>>> Or. Supposing we're talking about an engine of sufficient 'bang', which
>>> is a combination of cylinder capacity and piston compression ration: a
>>> four cylinder (or more) layout such as the modern car has, and most
>>> modern bikes have, divides said bang into smaller, more rapidly
>>> delivered thumps than you get from the single cylinder layout.
>>>
>>> A fairly high compression twin cylinder engine - such as in the
>>> rock'n'roll era Triumphs, Nortons and BSAs, to name just most of them,
>>> still packs a punch but is perhaps the perfect compromise between what
>>> can become uncomfortable after a while and what can seem so sanitised as
>>> to put one to sleep. Of course, a 750cc Triumph (or a 1000cc triple or
>>> 1200 four) is like having two or more 350cc single cylinder engines
>>> beneath one - but the thump is delivered in more rapid succession than
>>> on a single, and that effects how one 'feels' about the ride.
>>>
>>> Kind of funny to think about it, as we have long talked of the old
>>> (pre-Japanese) machines having 'soul', when actually I suppose it is we
>>> who have it, just the bike brings it out! Like an elation bubbling up as
>>> you realize - or remember - there is a valuable facet of being, normally
>>> absent in everyday life. Helps you experience life in the Now, I
>>> suppose, to wake from your somnambulist existence. What motorcycling is
>>> about.
>>>
>>> I think a 350 is about the lowest capacity single you can have without
>>> raising the compression ration that triggers this bang-induced paradigm
>>> shift, while a high compression 250 is too raw, the thump being so
>>> jarring as to be distracting. A big twin or multi delivers a different
>>> stimulus (you appreciate I'm wildly hypothesizing here!), but it seems
>>> to me that this is something to do with frequency, as in the number of
>>> bangs within a timeframe having the potential to alter consciousness
>>> (perhaps as a form of autosuggestion, though that is more likely in a
>>> car ); you know, because a twin of twice the capacity and the same
>>> compression at the same rpm delivers two thumps to the single's one and
>>> the only difference is they're closer together in time and somehow that
>>> makes them more bearable?
>>>
>>> Maybe that is what to be concious is: to be propelled from one degree of
>>> altered state to another and that at any given moment we are not
>>> precisely who we were just before. Anyway, there is nothing quite like
>>> riding a 350 or 500cc old Brit single cylinder motorcycle, and that
>>> part, at least, is not raving!
>>>
>>> Shane
>>>
>>>
>>>> Figgs
>>>>
>>>> "Shane" <shanebeatson DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ubmv8diNJHA.1228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Does he miss the single cylinder thump? I know I do!
>>>>>
>>>>> Shane
>>>>>
>>>>> Heather wrote:
>>>>>> "Shane" <shanebeatson DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uH75JMbNJHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Heather wrote:
>>>>>>>> LOL!! I have goofed on this one before and I will ask him when he
>>>>>>>> gets back. The Loon knows which one it is....being a *bike
>>>>>>>> freak*. The word Aerial comes to mind as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There were no shortage of Ariels. I would guess a Hunter of some
>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>> (350 and 500 singles):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good man!! He is standing behind me and says it was an "Ariel 500
>>>>>> Single" and he bought it here in Canada and it was a 1951 model.
>>>>>> Looks like that picture you posted the link for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He almost ran into the back of a car and scared himself
>>>>>> ****less....so
>>>>>> he sold it. (G)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heather & the Old Guy
>>>>>>> http://www.barkshire.co.uk/bikes/images/ArielNH_1937/ArielNH_1937_Jan8...06%2000 >>>>>>> but there were the square fours:
>>>>>>> http://www.britishclassicmotorcycles.co.uk/communities/4/004/005/355/7...images/ >>>>>>> another of those old Brit designs that the Japanese emulated
>>>>>>> decades later and most people thought was new and daring. Not to
>>>>>>> take anything away from the Japs though!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, his name is *Renaldo y Jose y Maria y Smith*.....grin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He must have been before his time in so many ways!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Shane" <shanebeatson DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:OR2xEHLNJHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> I'd guess an ES2 then. Can't imagine an Inter on Jamaica somehow.
>>>>>>>>> Last time
>>>>>>>>> I saw one of those was at Bracknell Motorcycle Auction in about
>>>>>>>>> '76. Or
>>>>>>>>> rather parked outside. I went up on the back of a mate's 350
>>>>>>>>> Matchless. Very
>>>>>>>>> pretty in the stately silver way Nortons of the pre-rocker era
>>>>>>>>> usually were!
>>>>>>>>> And the guy who took me to that auction is the only one besides
>>>>>>>>> myself I
>>>>>>>>> knew from the old days who still rode a Bonnie in the 21st
>>>>>>>>> Century.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, do ask him what it was.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure his name isn't really Ernesto?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Shane
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Heather" <figgyd DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:uIwtuWKNJHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> I think Ron had a Norton bike in Jamaica......I will have to ask
>>>>>>>>>> him. Whatever he had, he messed up and never rode one again.
>>>>>>>>>> Wussie!! (G)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Figgs (and we are talking *OLD* here.....this would have been
>>>>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>>>>> '40's)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Shane" <shanebeatson DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:eg6eufJNJHA.4456@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> No Joan, unfortunately not. And they don't even make the
>>>>>>>>>>> rotary-engined
>>>>>>>>>>> Command-er that did so very well in the road racing not so long
>>>>>>>>>>> ago!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Even when we can *still* make something really well the
>>>>>>>>>>> powers-that-be
>>>>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>>>>>> it to fail.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Shane
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Joan Archer" <joanarcher DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:Oh0tvrINJHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do they still make them ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Joan Archer
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lachsoft.com/photogallery >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <shanebeatson DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> news:f7a00dce-cb0f-4d3d-9066-bcd58c4e0d69@q35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 3:32 pm, "Heirloom" <nobodyh... DeleteThis @noplacelike.hom>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Norton for Dummies"............what's wrong with that???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything Norton be for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Norton for Commandos?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that is a bike!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shane
>>>
>>>
>
>
(Msg. 27) Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:06 am
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Shane said, "I think a 350 is about the lowest capacity single you can have
without
raising the compression ration that triggers this bang-induced paradigm
shift, while a high compression 250 is too raw, the thump being so jarring
as to be distracting."
I have had some big thumpers and have always liked them. A really enjoyable
bike was the 250cc Yamaha MX that I raced (many moons ago, before there was
a moon). Being a two stroke, it did not have the 'distracting thump.'
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