Network Win95 with WinXP for shared DSL and/or file transfer

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:55:49 -0500, "BudV" <BudVitoff.TakeThisOut@NOatt.SPAMnet>
wrote:

>I have two systems sitting in the same set of shelves: a Win95 (IBM Aptiva)
>and a WinXP Home SP2 (Dell I1100).
>
>I would like to connect them at least for file transfers and also, if
>possible, to share DSL internet access. I can't find a router that will
>accommodate the Win95. Can anybody point me in the right direction?
>
>
I have W95(os2.1) ethernetted to a Linksys WIFI modem router.The
router is connected to XP via wireless.

You need a partition formatted FAT 32 on XP to share files I believe.
Of course a ethernet card is needed in the W95 PC, I have a cheap
3Com card installed.

It should not make any difference as to what the file system being used on
XP may be.

File sharing should work with NTFS or FAT32 and on the win95 machine either
FAT or FAT32

--
Jon Hildrum
DTS MVP
Jon_Hildrum.DeleteThis@msn.com
www.hildrum.com
"norm" <donotreply.DeleteThis@here.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:55:49 -0500, "BudV" <BudVitoff.DeleteThis@NOatt.SPAMnet>
> wrote:
>
>>I have two systems sitting in the same set of shelves: a Win95 (IBM
>>Aptiva)
>>and a WinXP Home SP2 (Dell I1100).
>>
>>I would like to connect them at least for file transfers and also, if
>>possible, to share DSL internet access. I can't find a router that will
>>accommodate the Win95. Can anybody point me in the right direction?
>>
>>
> I have W95(os2.1) ethernetted to a Linksys WIFI modem router.The
> router is connected to XP via wireless.
>
> You need a partition formatted FAT 32 on XP to share files I believe.
> Of course a ethernet card is needed in the W95 PC, I have a cheap
> 3Com card installed.

Gentlemen, thank you for your support.

After almost 50 years of programming, I can make mainframes jump through
hoops, but PC communication, partitions, protocols, networks, and
God-knows-what-all completely baffles me!

Jon and Norm, the only thing I understand about FAT is the stuff around my
belly. Between the two of you, though, it sounds as though I'm okay to
proceed.

Steve, I'm glad you responded. I have a printout of a reply you made on
1/18/06 to a similar question. That reply continued from what you said here
with "If there's a DHCP server on your network (broadband router,..." and
then proceeded to tell how to assign static IP addresses if there isn't. At
that time, I didn't really have a network -- just two separate systems, so
all the stuff about IP addresses served only to shake me up.

I did purchase a router -- a Linkysys Wireless-G Broadband router Model
WRT54GS -- because I was expecting a new roommate to piggyback my DSL, but
she was a no-show. A recent closer look at the box revealed under Minimum
Requirements "Windows 2000 or XP", which caused my concern. In wandering
around the Internet, I found comparable minimum requirements. You do give
me hope, however, so I'm going to go for it. Don't be surprised if I yell
for help here again. Of course, if all goes well, I'll let you know.

Bud

"Jon_Hildrum" <Jon_Hildrum.TakeThisOut@amsn.com> wrote in message
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> It should not make any difference as to what the file system being used on
> XP may be.
>
> File sharing should work with NTFS or FAT32 and on the win95 machine
> either FAT or FAT32
>
> --
> Jon Hildrum
> DTS MVP
> Jon_Hildrum.TakeThisOut@msn.com
> www.hildrum.com
> "norm" <donotreply.TakeThisOut@here.com> wrote in message
> news:4516888d.1676580@news.zetnet.co.uk...
>> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:55:49 -0500, "BudV" <BudVitoff.TakeThisOut@NOatt.SPAMnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I have two systems sitting in the same set of shelves: a Win95 (IBM
>>>Aptiva)
>>>and a WinXP Home SP2 (Dell I1100).
>>>
>>>I would like to connect them at least for file transfers and also, if
>>>possible, to share DSL internet access. I can't find a router that will
>>>accommodate the Win95. Can anybody point me in the right direction?
>>>
>>>
>> I have W95(os2.1) ethernetted to a Linksys WIFI modem router.The
>> router is connected to XP via wireless.
>>
>> You need a partition formatted FAT 32 on XP to share files I believe.
>> Of course a ethernet card is needed in the W95 PC, I have a cheap
>> 3Com card installed.
>
>

In article <#DwR87F4GHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, "BudV"
<BudVitoff.RemoveThis@NOatt.SPAMnet> wrote:
>Gentlemen, thank you for your support.
>
>After almost 50 years of programming, I can make mainframes jump through
>hoops, but PC communication, partitions, protocols, networks, and
>God-knows-what-all completely baffles me!
>
>Jon and Norm, the only thing I understand about FAT is the stuff around my
>belly. Between the two of you, though, it sounds as though I'm okay to
>proceed.
>
>Steve, I'm glad you responded. I have a printout of a reply you made on
>1/18/06 to a similar question. That reply continued from what you said here
>with "If there's a DHCP server on your network (broadband router,..." and
>then proceeded to tell how to assign static IP addresses if there isn't. At
>that time, I didn't really have a network -- just two separate systems, so
>all the stuff about IP addresses served only to shake me up.
>
>I did purchase a router -- a Linkysys Wireless-G Broadband router Model
>WRT54GS -- because I was expecting a new roommate to piggyback my DSL, but
>she was a no-show. A recent closer look at the box revealed under Minimum
>Requirements "Windows 2000 or XP", which caused my concern. In wandering
>around the Internet, I found comparable minimum requirements. You do give
>me hope, however, so I'm going to go for it. Don't be surprised if I yell
>for help here again. Of course, if all goes well, I'll let you know.
>
>Bud

Thanks for the additional information, Bud. I looked up the WRT54GS
on the Linksys web site. It should work fine with a wired connection
to your Windows 95 computer. I don't know of any wireless network
adapter that works with Windows 95. You might have to do the initial
setup of the router from the Windows XP computer.

You don't need static IP addresses. By default, Windows 95 will
obtain an IP address automatically from the router's DHCP server over
a wired connection.

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <bcmaven DeleteThis @mvps.org> wrote in message
news:m8ueh2hk4grjeqofc6ra0nsua249pmpsat@4ax.com...
> In article <#DwR87F4GHA.1292@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, "BudV"
> <BudVitoff DeleteThis @NOatt.SPAMnet> wrote:
>>Gentlemen, thank you for your support.
>>
>>After almost 50 years of programming, I can make mainframes jump through
>>hoops, but PC communication, partitions, protocols, networks, and
>>God-knows-what-all completely baffles me!
>>
>>Jon and Norm, the only thing I understand about FAT is the stuff around my
>>belly. Between the two of you, though, it sounds as though I'm okay to
>>proceed.
>>
>>Steve, I'm glad you responded. I have a printout of a reply you made on
>>1/18/06 to a similar question. That reply continued from what you said
>>here
>>with "If there's a DHCP server on your network (broadband router,..." and
>>then proceeded to tell how to assign static IP addresses if there isn't.
>>At
>>that time, I didn't really have a network -- just two separate systems, so
>>all the stuff about IP addresses served only to shake me up.
>>
>>I did purchase a router -- a Linkysys Wireless-G Broadband router Model
>>WRT54GS -- because I was expecting a new roommate to piggyback my DSL, but
>>she was a no-show. A recent closer look at the box revealed under Minimum
>>Requirements "Windows 2000 or XP", which caused my concern. In wandering
>>around the Internet, I found comparable minimum requirements. You do give
>>me hope, however, so I'm going to go for it. Don't be surprised if I yell
>>for help here again. Of course, if all goes well, I'll let you know.
>>
>>Bud
>
> Thanks for the additional information, Bud. I looked up the WRT54GS
> on the Linksys web site. It should work fine with a wired connection
> to your Windows 95 computer. I don't know of any wireless network
> adapter that works with Windows 95. You might have to do the initial
> setup of the router from the Windows XP computer.
>
> You don't need static IP addresses. By default, Windows 95 will
> obtain an IP address automatically from the router's DHCP server over
> a wired connection.

Steve, pardon me for the delay in continuing this saga, but I switched ISP's
(from ATT to MSN), and ran into some problems trying to use my old ATT
modem. I am now using an Actiontec 54 Mbps Wireless DSL Gateway model
GT704-WG. This unit combines the router and modem in one unit, and they
call it a "Wireless DSL Starter Kit." (!) It was all part of a promotion
by Qwest to bundle services and save me several bucks a month. I have no
immediate intention to use the wireless feature, and no installation steps
for wireless were performed, per their instructions. They said to wait
until I actually have hardware for wireless usage.

The Win95 system used to have a dial-up Internet connection with ATT, but I
can't use it any more, and I don't need it. Although I would like to
connect it to my DSL setup, they tell me I can't install the unit on a
Win95. All I need to do is copy files from Win95 to WinXP so that I can
burn them to CD's. I know I could use a crossover ethernet cable to do
this, but that implies swapping plugs all the time on the WinXP -- not
clean.

I followed your instructions for Win95 and WinXP, and everything proceeded
without a hitch. I established file/drive sharing on the Win95 drives. When
I finally brought up the system though, I expected WinXP Explorer to show
some indication of the Win95 system, but it didn't.

"WinXP Network Connections" showed, among other things:

Internet Gateway: Name: Local Area Connection on Linux IGD Type:
Internet Gateway Status: Connected Device Name: (same as Name).

LAN or High-Speed Internet: Name: Local Area Connection 2 Type: LAN or
High-Speed Internet Status: Connected Device Name: Broadcom 440x
10/100 Integrated Controller #2 (This last rings a bell, and may be the
ethernet
board I installed on the Win95 long ago).

I don't know where "Linux IGD" comes from. It showed up while I was
configuring the Win95.

Under "My Network Places," I tried "View workgroup computers". After a long
delay, it gave me the error message: "Mshome is not accessible. You might
not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator
of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of
servers for this workgroup is not currently available."

I hope all this makes more sense to you than it does to me. What's my next
step?

In article <OGAnKRm8GHA.3916.TakeThisOut@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, "BudV"
<BudVitoff.TakeThisOut@NOatt.SPAMnet> wrote:
>[snip]
>Steve, pardon me for the delay in continuing this saga, but I switched ISP's
>(from ATT to MSN), and ran into some problems trying to use my old ATT
>modem. I am now using an Actiontec 54 Mbps Wireless DSL Gateway model
>GT704-WG. This unit combines the router and modem in one unit, and they
>call it a "Wireless DSL Starter Kit." (!) It was all part of a promotion
>by Qwest to bundle services and save me several bucks a month. I have no
>immediate intention to use the wireless feature, and no installation steps
>for wireless were performed, per their instructions. They said to wait
>until I actually have hardware for wireless usage.
>
>The Win95 system used to have a dial-up Internet connection with ATT, but I
>can't use it any more, and I don't need it. Although I would like to
>connect it to my DSL setup, they tell me I can't install the unit on a
>Win95. All I need to do is copy files from Win95 to WinXP so that I can
>burn them to CD's. I know I could use a crossover ethernet cable to do
>this, but that implies swapping plugs all the time on the WinXP -- not
>clean.
>
>I followed your instructions for Win95 and WinXP, and everything proceeded
>without a hitch. I established file/drive sharing on the Win95 drives. When
>I finally brought up the system though, I expected WinXP Explorer to show
>some indication of the Win95 system, but it didn't.
>
>"WinXP Network Connections" showed, among other things:
>
>Internet Gateway: Name: Local Area Connection on Linux IGD Type:
>Internet Gateway Status: Connected Device Name: (same as Name).
>
>LAN or High-Speed Internet: Name: Local Area Connection 2 Type: LAN or
>High-Speed Internet Status: Connected Device Name: Broadcom 440x
>10/100 Integrated Controller #2 (This last rings a bell, and may be the
>ethernet
>board I installed on the Win95 long ago).
>
>I don't know where "Linux IGD" comes from. It showed up while I was
>configuring the Win95.
>
>Under "My Network Places," I tried "View workgroup computers". After a long
>delay, it gave me the error message: "Mshome is not accessible. You might
>not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator
>of this server to find out if you have access permissions. The list of
>servers for this workgroup is not currently available."
>
>I hope all this makes more sense to you than it does to me. What's my next
>step?

I think that you're almost there, Bud.

The Linux IGD (Internet Gateway Device) is your router. Your router
creates an Internet Gateway icon on the Windows XP computer. You can
monitor and control the router (turn its Internet connection on or
off) by clicking the icon.

Local Area Connection 2 on the XP computer is its Ethernet connection
to the router.

The Windows 95 computer can connect to the router for Internet access
and file sharing. All you should have to do is connect the computer's
Ethernet adapter to a port on the router. It isn't necessary to run
the Qwest setup disk on that computer.

In my experience, network browsing through My Network Places and
Network Neighborhood is unreliable -- so unreliable that I recommend
not using it.

To access the Windows 95 shared folders from Windows XP, click Start >
Run on Windows XP, then type the Windows 95 computer's name in the box
in this format:

\\computer

To access the Windows XP shared folders from Windows 95, click Start >
Run on Windows 95, then type the Windows XP computer's name in the box
in this format:

\\computer

If there's a firewall program on either computer, configure it to
allow access by other computers on the local area network.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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