"Sandy" <Sandy.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:56494402-ED9E-493F-8FF6-08ADE9CDE63F@microsoft.com...
| Hello MEB,
|
| I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on
| networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting
| adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the EXACT
| error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows Networking
| window pops up...
| "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is not
| working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information,
| see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help".
|
| You also asked what is listed in Control Panel>Networks:
| Client for Microsoft Networks
| Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
| Dial-Up Adapter
| TCP/IP->Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
| TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter
| and...
| Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon.
|
| There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers in
my
| network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road?
|
| Cheers, Sandy.
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| > Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in the
| > page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for general
| > diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be
| > informative.
| >
| > Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good luck.
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > --
| > _________
| >
| > "Sandy" <Sandy.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:18AC5D03-5CBA-4507-A2DB-424BA1A9AD42@microsoft.com...
| > | Hi MEB,
| > |
| > | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some time
to
| > | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks.
| > |
| > | All the best,
| > |
| > | Sandy.
| > |
| > | "MEB" wrote:
| > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Sandy" <Sandy.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:4D4C8B10-9B4B-4B28-B570-0BBC82DA8923@microsoft.com...
| > | > | Good morning MEB and everybody else!
| > | > |
| > | > | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke
about
| > last
| > | > | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly,
yes
| > the
| > | > | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there
is a
| > | > problem
| > | > | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I
didn't
| > do
| > | > | that in the first place!
| > | > |
| > | > | I have to say I think that this final message would rather
indicate a
| > | > faulty
| > | > | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you
think?
| > | > |
| > | > | Regards, Sandy.
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | > What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control
Panel
| > >
| > | > Network. > {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}}
| > | >
| > | > What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP automatically,
no
| > | > Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*.
| > | > HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the
network
| > | > must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start > RUN box.
| > | > What is the address for your base unit/wireless router?
| > | >
| > | > Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page:
| > | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm | > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | > | "MEB" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Okay, please keep us informed.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > | > | > --
| > | > | > _________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:5C18927B-2B7E-46DE-BEF7-176A2543BBB3@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB. I'll
| > have a
| > | > go
| > | > | > of
| > | > | > | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens. I'll
| > come
| > | > back
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | you next week. See you then.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Sandy.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > news:A58BA0DB-EBEF-42F0-9FE2-9FC1EC6A2CFC@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | Morning MEB (it is for me!),
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my
head
| > | > round!
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as
Belkin
| > &
| > | > | > Broadcom,
| > | > | > | > | no others.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other
potentials.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp -
was
| > the
| > | > | > technique
| > | > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | > used similar to this?
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes
sort
| > off
| > | > in my
| > | > | > | > | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some
extra
| > steps
| > | > I
| > | > | > can
| > | > | > | > try
| > | > | > | > | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a
logical
| > | > | > sequence.
| > | > | > | > | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16 ( I
was
| > | > having
| > | > | > | > another
| > | > | > | > | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed the
| > card
| > | > was
| > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > | identified. However, I will go through Netgears' sequence
now
| > | > I've
| > | > | > got it
| > | > | > | > &
| > | > | > | > | see what happens.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Okay, if you look through some of those other links you'll
note
| > | > that
| > | > | > has
| > | > | > | > also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also "being
put
| > | > through
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > wringer" with your card.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Just been looking through the other links you suggested...
| > perhaps
| > | > I
| > | > | > | > should
| > | > | > | > | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General
theme
| > | > seems to
| > | > | > be
| > | > | > | > | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for
phone
| > | > access,
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > within a network [business/commercial] which was handled by
IT
| > or
| > | > other
| > | > | > | > "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for 98
or
| > the
| > | > older
| > | > | > | > NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide, but
| > that
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and of
| > course,
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can no
| > longer
| > | > call
| > | > | > | > Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in Microsoft's
| > | > un-supported
| > | > | > | > OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how to
| > program.
| > | > | > Look at
| > | > | > | > any of the newer devices and you find these same
difficulties.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to remove
the
| > | > | > 'device'
| > | > | > | > | because you're right, previous experience on this ghosting
| > anomaly
| > | > can
| > | > | > be
| > | > | > | > | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and
issues
| > can
| > | > be
| > | > | > | > back-traced to these ghosts.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did remove
all
| > | > network
| > | > | > | > | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't remember
if I
| > | > closed
| > | > | > down
| > | > | > | > | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers be
| > loaded
| > | > | > before
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | Network elements are put in or does the network
| > clients/protocols
| > | > have
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > be
| > | > | > | > | in place first?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the network.
| > There is
| > | > | > | > potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on this
one,
| > | > dial-up,
| > | > | > | > huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS part
of
| > the
| > | > | > | > network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as possible,
you
| > | > should
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > | > had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers upon
| > | > startup,
| > | > | > which
| > | > | > | > then are supposed to install the necessary TCP/IP and other
| > files.
| > | > | > | > One thing I have found, is having the CABS for 98 in
| > | > | > | > {drive}:\Windows\Options\CABS, seems to ease installation of
| > most
| > | > | > devices.
| > | > | > | > Just copy the Win98 folder and contents from the CD to that
| > folder.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > One registry entry needs changed though, so installations
look
| > | > there
| > | > | > rather
| > | > | > | > than asking for the CDROM:
| > | > | > | > ---------
| > | > | > | > REGEDIT4
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup]
| > | > | > | > "SourcePath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\OPTIONS\\CABS\\"
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > -----------
| > | > | > | > This can be placed into a TEXT editor [including the blank
| > line],
| > | > saved
| > | > | > as
| > | > | > | > option-source.reg, and merged. Modify that to your actual
| > windows
| > | > | > | > directory/folder if necessary.
| > | > | > | > It works much better if it was done before the update
process
| > as
| > | > any
| > | > | > | > updated files are/were copied/placed there as well, meaning
you
| > | > won't be
| > | > | > | > installing OLD outdated files from the CDROM.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > On installers generally:
| > | > | > | > Looking at a number of NEW installers, I note that they
| > constantly
| > | > check
| > | > | > for
| > | > | > | > "administrator rights" [something necessary for NT] and NT
| > files,
| > | > and
| > | > | > fail
| > | > | > | > to include the old variables for "if its not present then
do"
| > | > [that's
| > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > the actual inclusions just what was done] which the OLD
cross
| > | > platform
| > | > | > | > installers included.
| > | > | > | > The cross platforms now being addressed are XP and the
| > necessary
| > | > VISTA
| > | > | > | > "special" envelope/requirements.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Let us know how it goes...
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Right! I better speak to the other guys now. Thanks for
your
| > | > help
| > | > | > MEB.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Cheers,
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Sandy.
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > _________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Let me put both together:
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
| > | > | > | > | >
news:D4314692-0B0B-47D7-ABA0-C866AA71D530@microsoft.com...
(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:07 am
Post subject: Re: CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Hi MEB, good to hear from you... yes, as far as I'm aware, my TCP/IP settings
are right. As far as the BIOS upgrade for the Belkin... I didn't know there
was one, I'll check. I haven't gone down the road of pinging or running
winipcfg as I thought the adapter had to be working first??? And finally no,
I don't use ICS as the other computers belong to my son next door so we have
no need to share files etc.!
Cheers, Sandy.
"MEB" wrote:
> Sorry, slightly distracted. Did you check for proper TCP/IP settings, or did
> you not get that far?
>
> IF the card is shown, but not working properly AND you did check the TCP/IP
> and it is correct, did you check for an upgrade {BIOS} for the device?
>
> Winipcfg > Details > {what}?
>
> Are you also using ICS in the system {or did you at one time?}?
>
> Did you try the ping diagnostics?
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > --
> _________
>
> "Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:56494402-ED9E-493F-8FF6-08ADE9CDE63F@microsoft.com...
> | Hello MEB,
> |
> | I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on
> | networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting
> | adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the EXACT
> | error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows Networking
> | window pops up...
> | "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is not
> | working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more information,
> | see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help".
> |
> | You also asked what is listed in Control Panel>Networks:
> | Client for Microsoft Networks
> | Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
> | Dial-Up Adapter
> | TCP/IP->Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
> | TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter
> | and...
> | Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon.
> |
> | There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers in
> my
> | network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road?
> |
> | Cheers, Sandy.
> |
> | "MEB" wrote:
> |
> | > Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in the
> | > page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for general
> | > diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be
> | > informative.
> | >
> | > Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good luck.
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | > "Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:18AC5D03-5CBA-4507-A2DB-424BA1A9AD42@microsoft.com...
> | > | Hi MEB,
> | > |
> | > | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some time
> to
> | > | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks.
> | > |
> | > | All the best,
> | > |
> | > | Sandy.
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" wrote:
> | > |
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:4D4C8B10-9B4B-4B28-B570-0BBC82DA8923@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | Good morning MEB and everybody else!
> | > | > |
> | > | > | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke
> about
> | > last
> | > | > | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly,
> yes
> | > the
> | > | > | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there
> is a
> | > | > problem
> | > | > | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I
> didn't
> | > do
> | > | > | that in the first place!
> | > | > |
> | > | > | I have to say I think that this final message would rather
> indicate a
> | > | > faulty
> | > | > | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you
> think?
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Regards, Sandy.
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | > What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control
> Panel
> | > >
> | > | > Network. > {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}}
> | > | >
> | > | > What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP automatically,
> no
> | > | > Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*.
> | > | > HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the
> network
> | > | > must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start > RUN box.
> | > | > What is the address for your base unit/wireless router?
> | > | >
> | > | > Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page:
> | > | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm > | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > | > --
> | > | > _________
> | > | >
> | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
> | > | > |
> | > | > | > Okay, please keep us informed.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > _________
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > news:5C18927B-2B7E-46DE-BEF7-176A2543BBB3@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB. I'll
> | > have a
> | > | > go
> | > | > | > of
> | > | > | > | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens. I'll
> | > come
> | > | > back
> | > | > | > to
> | > | > | > | you next week. See you then.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Sandy.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > news:A58BA0DB-EBEF-42F0-9FE2-9FC1EC6A2CFC@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | Morning MEB (it is for me!),
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my
> head
> | > | > round!
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as
> Belkin
> | > &
> | > | > | > Broadcom,
> | > | > | > | > | no others.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other
> potentials.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp -
> was
> | > the
> | > | > | > technique
> | > | > | > | > you
> | > | > | > | > | > used similar to this?
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes
> sort
> | > off
> | > | > in my
> | > | > | > | > | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some
> extra
> | > steps
> | > | > I
> | > | > | > can
> | > | > | > | > try
> | > | > | > | > | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a
> logical
> | > | > | > sequence.
> | > | > | > | > | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16 ( I
> was
> | > | > having
> | > | > | > | > another
> | > | > | > | > | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed the
> | > card
> | > | > was
> | > | > | > not
> | > | > | > | > | identified. However, I will go through Netgears' sequence
> now
> | > | > I've
> | > | > | > got it
> | > | > | > | > &
> | > | > | > | > | see what happens.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Okay, if you look through some of those other links you'll
> note
> | > | > that
> | > | > | > has
> | > | > | > | > also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also "being
> put
> | > | > through
> | > | > | > the
> | > | > | > | > wringer" with your card.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | Just been looking through the other links you suggested...
> | > perhaps
> | > | > I
> | > | > | > | > should
> | > | > | > | > | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General
> theme
> | > | > seems to
> | > | > | > be
> | > | > | > | > | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for
> phone
> | > | > access,
> | > | > | > and
> | > | > | > | > within a network [business/commercial] which was handled by
> IT
> | > or
> | > | > other
> | > | > | > | > "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for 98
> or
> | > the
> | > | > older
> | > | > | > | > NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide, but
> | > that
> | > | > the
> | > | > | > | > manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and of
> | > course,
> | > | > the
> | > | > | > | > necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can no
> | > longer
> | > | > call
> | > | > | > | > Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in Microsoft's
> | > | > un-supported
> | > | > | > | > OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how to
> | > program.
> | > | > | > Look at
> | > | > | > | > any of the newer devices and you find these same
> difficulties.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to remove
> the
> | > | > | > 'device'
> | > | > | > | > | because you're right, previous experience on this ghosting
> | > anomaly
> | > | > can
> | > | > | > be
> | > | > | > | > | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and
> issues
> | > can
> | > | > be
> | > | > | > | > back-traced to these ghosts.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did remove
> all
> | > | > network
> | > | > | > | > | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't remember
> if I
> | > | > closed
> | > | > | > down
> | > | > | > | > | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers be
> | > loaded
> | > | > | > before
> | > | > | > | > the
> | > | > | > | > | Network elements are put in or does the network
> | > clients/protocols
> | > | > have
> | > | > | > to
> | > | > | > | > be
> | > | > | > | > | in place first?
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the network.
> | > There is
> | > | > | > | > potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on this
> one,
> | > | > dial-up,
> | > | > | > | > huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS part
> of
> | > the
> | > | > | > | > network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as possible,
> you
> | > | > should
> | > | > | > have
> | > | > | > | > had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers upon
(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:07 am
Post subject: Re: CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
This is a wireless adapter, MEB. I haven't done a lot of wireless in either
98 or XP, but I don't believe any of the settings or winipcfg are at all
involved. But maybe I'm wrong. (This is making me want to go to Buy.com and
get a few examples to have on hand.)
(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:29 am
Post subject: Re: CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I would tentatively suggest you ignore the error message, since Windows 98
doesn't know about wireless and is probably just seeing something it doesn't
recognize. Or, maybe, you need to run the support software, where it shows
you what networks are nearby and otherwise allows you to manage the
connection(s). Have you found such a utility yet? Could be in the system
tray already. A new icon on the Desktop? That's the major part of the
software that you installed using the CD.
"Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:77C821E5-4A97-4318-BAF0-18746FE8A620@microsoft.com...
> Hi MEB, good to hear from you... yes, as far as I'm aware, my TCP/IP
> settings
> are right. As far as the BIOS upgrade for the Belkin... I didn't know
> there
> was one, I'll check. I haven't gone down the road of pinging or running
> winipcfg as I thought the adapter had to be working first??? And finally
> no,
> I don't use ICS as the other computers belong to my son next door so we
> have
> no need to share files etc.!
> Cheers, Sandy.
>
> "MEB" wrote:
>
>> Sorry, slightly distracted. Did you check for proper TCP/IP settings, or
>> did
>> you not get that far?
>>
>> IF the card is shown, but not working properly AND you did check the
>> TCP/IP
>> and it is correct, did you check for an upgrade {BIOS} for the device?
>>
>> Winipcfg > Details > {what}?
>>
>> Are you also using ICS in the system {or did you at one time?}?
>>
>> Did you try the ping diagnostics?
>>
>> --
>> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com >> --
>> _________
>>
>> "Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:56494402-ED9E-493F-8FF6-08ADE9CDE63F@microsoft.com...
>> | Hello MEB,
>> |
>> | I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on
>> | networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on troubleshooting
>> | adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the
>> EXACT
>> | error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows
>> Networking
>> | window pops up...
>> | "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is
>> not
>> | working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more
>> information,
>> | see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help".
>> |
>> | You also asked what is listed in Control Panel>Networks:
>> | Client for Microsoft Networks
>> | Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
>> | Dial-Up Adapter
>> | TCP/IP->Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
>> | TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter
>> | and...
>> | Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon.
>> |
>> | There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers
>> in
>> my
>> | network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road?
>> |
>> | Cheers, Sandy.
>> |
>> | "MEB" wrote:
>> |
>> | > Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in
>> the
>> | > page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for
>> general
>> | > diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be
>> | > informative.
>> | >
>> | > Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good
>> luck.
>> | >
>> | > --
>> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com >> | > --
>> | > _________
>> | >
>> | > "Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> | > news:18AC5D03-5CBA-4507-A2DB-424BA1A9AD42@microsoft.com...
>> | > | Hi MEB,
>> | > |
>> | > | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some
>> time
>> to
>> | > | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks.
>> | > |
>> | > | All the best,
>> | > |
>> | > | Sandy.
>> | > |
>> | > | "MEB" wrote:
>> | > |
>> | > | >
>> | > | >
>> | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> | > | > news:4D4C8B10-9B4B-4B28-B570-0BBC82DA8923@microsoft.com...
>> | > | > | Good morning MEB and everybody else!
>> | > | > |
>> | > | > | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke
>> about
>> | > last
>> | > | > | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly,
>> yes
>> | > the
>> | > | > | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says
>> "there
>> is a
>> | > | > problem
>> | > | > | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I
>> didn't
>> | > do
>> | > | > | that in the first place!
>> | > | > |
>> | > | > | I have to say I think that this final message would rather
>> indicate a
>> | > | > faulty
>> | > | > | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you
>> think?
>> | > | > |
>> | > | > | Regards, Sandy.
>> | > | > |
>> | > | >
>> | > | > What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in Control
>> Panel
>> | > >
>> | > | > Network. > {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}}
>> | > | >
>> | > | > What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP
>> automatically,
>> no
>> | > | > Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*.
>> | > | > HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the
>> network
>> | > | > must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start > RUN box.
>> | > | > What is the address for your base unit/wireless router?
>> | > | >
>> | > | > Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page:
>> | > | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm >> | > | >
>> | > | > --
>> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com >> | > | > --
>> | > | > _________
>> | > | >
>> | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
>> | > | > |
>> | > | > | > Okay, please keep us informed.
>> | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > --
>> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com >> | > | > | > --
>> | > | > | > _________
>> | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> | > | > | > news:5C18927B-2B7E-46DE-BEF7-176A2543BBB3@microsoft.com...
>> | > | > | > | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB.
>> I'll
>> | > have a
>> | > | > go
>> | > | > | > of
>> | > | > | > | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens.
>> I'll
>> | > come
>> | > | > back
>> | > | > | > to
>> | > | > | > | you next week. See you then.
>> | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | Sandy.
>> | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
>> | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> | > | > | > | >
>> news:A58BA0DB-EBEF-42F0-9FE2-9FC1EC6A2CFC@microsoft.com...
>> | > | > | > | > | Morning MEB (it is for me!),
>> | > | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | > | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get my
>> head
>> | > | > round!
>> | > | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | > | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed as
>> Belkin
>> | > &
>> | > | > | > Broadcom,
>> | > | > | > | > | no others.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other
>> potentials.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | > | >
>> http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp -
>> was
>> | > the
>> | > | > | > technique
>> | > | > | > | > you
>> | > | > | > | > | > used similar to this?
>> | > | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | > | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks. Yes
>> sort
>> | > off
>> | > | > in my
>> | > | > | > | > | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some
>> extra
>> | > steps
>> | > | > I
>> | > | > | > can
>> | > | > | > | > try
>> | > | > | > | > | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a
>> logical
>> | > | > | > sequence.
>> | > | > | > | > | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16
>> ( I
>> was
>> | > | > having
>> | > | > | > | > another
>> | > | > | > | > | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed
>> the
>> | > card
>> | > | > was
>> | > | > | > not
>> | > | > | > | > | identified. However, I will go through Netgears'
>> sequence
>> now
>> | > | > I've
>> | > | > | > got it
>> | > | > | > | > &
>> | > | > | > | > | see what happens.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > Okay, if you look through some of those other links
>> you'll
>> note
>> | > | > that
>> | > | > | > has
>> | > | > | > | > also occurred to others ... regretfully you are also
>> "being
>> put
>> | > | > through
>> | > | > | > the
>> | > | > | > | > wringer" with your card.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | > | Just been looking through the other links you
>> suggested...
>> | > perhaps
>> | > | > I
>> | > | > | > | > should
>> | > | > | > | > | be grateful I've got a Belkin & not a Linksys! General
>> theme
>> | > | > seems to
>> | > | > | > be
>> | > | > | > | > | change the card. Hmmm. Not convinced - yet.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > Well you have to remember that 98 was designed more for
>> phone
>> | > | > access,
>> | > | > | > and
>> | > | > | > | > within a network [business/commercial] which was handled
>> by
>> IT
>> | > or
>> | > | > other
>> | > | > | > | > "experts". And these newer adapters are not designed for
>> 98
>> or
>> | > the
>> | > | > older
>> | > | > | > | > NTs. Not that the drivers would be difficult to provide,
>> but
>> | > that
>> | > | > the
>> | > | > | > | > manufacturer's programmers rely more upon Microsoft, and
>> of
>> | > course,
>> | > | > the
>> | > | > | > | > necessary MS certification. Moreover, the programmers can
>> no
>> | > longer
>> | > | > call
>> | > | > | > | > Microsoft to discuss issues that might occur in
>> Microsoft's
>> | > | > un-supported
>> | > | > | > | > OSs, so that leaves them as needing to actually know how
>> to
>> | > program.
>> | > | > | > Look at
>> | > | > | > | > any of the newer devices and you find these same
>> difficulties.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | > | Yes, on your other point I did go into Safe Mode to
>> remove
>> the
>> | > | > | > 'device'
>> | > | > | > | > | because you're right, previous experience on this
>> ghosting
>> | > anomaly
>> | > | > can
>> | > | > | > be
>> | > | > | > | > | quite revealing, all taking up valuable resources.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > Yes, that's always been important. Many later errors and
>> issues
>> | > can
>> | > | > be
>> | > | > | > | > back-traced to these ghosts.
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > |
>> | > | > | > | > | Finally, like I said when playing last night, I did
>> remove
>> all
>> | > | > network
>> | > | > | > | > | protocols, clients et al. I must admit I can't
>> remember
>> if I
>> | > | > closed
>> | > | > | > down
>> | > | > | > | > | before re-installing them or not. Can a card's drivers
>> be
>> | > loaded
>> | > | > | > before
>> | > | > | > | > the
>> | > | > | > | > | Network elements are put in or does the network
>> | > clients/protocols
>> | > | > have
>> | > | > | > to
>> | > | > | > | > be
>> | > | > | > | > | in place first?
>> | > | > | > | >
>> | > | > | > | > Okay, make sure you shutdown before resetting the
>> network.
>> | > There is
>> | > | > | > | > potentially a DUN issue [yeah we scratch our heads on
>> this
>> one,
>> | > | > dial-up,
>> | > | > | > | > huh, why would that effect a network adapter, but it IS
>> part
>> of
>> | > the
>> | > | > | > | > network]. The card drivers can be added as soon as
>> possible,
>> you
>> | > | > should
>> | > | > | > have
>> | > | > | > | > had the Startup/New hardware found, ask for the drivers
>> upon
(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:00 pm
Post subject: Re: CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Sandy" <Sandy.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:77C821E5-4A97-4318-BAF0-18746FE8A620@microsoft.com...
| Hi MEB, good to hear from you... yes, as far as I'm aware, my TCP/IP
settings
| are right. As far as the BIOS upgrade for the Belkin... I didn't know
there
| was one, I'll check. I haven't gone down the road of pinging or running
| winipcfg as I thought the adapter had to be working first??? And finally
no,
| I don't use ICS as the other computers belong to my son next door so we
have
| no need to share files etc.!
| Cheers, Sandy.
|
Okay, No ICS entries that might have conflicted.
Are the other wireless connected computers able to SEE your problem 98
computer {does it appear anywhere in your son's actual network [if he is the
one with the wireless base unit]}?
What Gary is suggesting is, that the adapter MIGHT be installed, but the
adapter in the 98 box is not connecting to the network, which will cause a
network error. Errors like you are receiving can also occur [after an
install] because the adapter can not connect to the network, hence it is an
error.
What you have posted is that the adapter "apparently" IS installed [or at
least shown in the Network configuration].
AS YOU POSTED:
Client for Microsoft Networks
Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
Dial-Up Adapter
TCP/IP->Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter
and...
Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon.
I use your "son as" the identifier below, but it refers to whoever has the
base transceiver and the actual unit.
Your son MUST add your computer to his network or allow that address in the
acceptable range OR you must be using the address range he has allowed or is
using as his network. If he setup static addressing then your computer must
also use a static address in the range he has allowed. You will also need to
use the same compression and security [WEP/WPA-PSK/WPA-2/whatever and should
be the same 64/128/etc., SSID{key}, etc. between the two - your adapter and
his base transceiver, they MUST be the same. Recheck the ENCRYPTION/SECURITY
ISSUES and basic setup sections on my web page for details.
Have you checked in the wireless base transceiver for what the actual
network configuration is? The 98 computer MUST be using *that* network
addressing range and the transciever address should/would be the gateway in
your computer Belkin TCP/IP, hence the reason for running winipcfg, to see
if the adapter IS attempting to communicate, and whether *your* IP address
is in the *wireless base transceiver* range..
Any firewall between you and the transceiver MUST allow access/talking to
occur. Check your computer firewall, and make sure it has the local network
allowance [the wireless network range]. IF you are running Norton/Symantec
or McAfee we need to know that specifically, and any other Anti-V,
Anti-SpyWare, etc..
(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:16 am
Post subject: Re: CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
MEB, Gary,
Right, I've revisited some of the points made earlier. I actually have the
modem/router in my property which my son & I setup together, inputting all
the MAC addresses of all PC's & security settings - reasonably
straightforward on an Netgear and works well. I ran winipcfg and noted my
wireless adapter not even listed so there was no point in going any further
with that one. I checked with Belkin for any firmware revisions but, as
suspected, there's no flash 'bios' as such on the card... all done through
inf. & sys. files in the installation software.
Which brings me onto Gary's point. I've now retried versions 1 through 3 of
the Belkin application software/drivers using the procedures that worked in
getting the drivers to install, and the same error message appears every time
on restart that I mentioned in my last post. When opening the "Utility"
software I get the consistent message: "Incompatible driver version. Unable
to load application", then the Belkin utility window opens with "No adapters"
on the tab. Now, you can't tell me that 3 versions of drivers are all
duff... incompatible! To me this is evidence of a duff card and goes back to
the point I made originally about the ver.no. on the card ending in "ec" &
not "uk". If you go to the following link:
<http://www.belkin.com/uk/support/article/?lid=enu&pid=F5D7000uk&aid=6199&scid=0>
you'll notice the picture shows this at the end of the model number 'F5D7000'
and all the software/drivers also end in 'uk' & not 'ec'. I believe I've got
a card designed for European use & not UK use. I raised this with Belkin but
they wouldn't comment. At this point in time I really cannot see the problem
being anything else than this, after exploring all other issues. Am I right?
Sandy.
"MEB" wrote:
>
>
> "Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:77C821E5-4A97-4318-BAF0-18746FE8A620@microsoft.com...
> | Hi MEB, good to hear from you... yes, as far as I'm aware, my TCP/IP
> settings
> | are right. As far as the BIOS upgrade for the Belkin... I didn't know
> there
> | was one, I'll check. I haven't gone down the road of pinging or running
> | winipcfg as I thought the adapter had to be working first??? And finally
> no,
> | I don't use ICS as the other computers belong to my son next door so we
> have
> | no need to share files etc.!
> | Cheers, Sandy.
> |
>
> Okay, No ICS entries that might have conflicted.
>
> Are the other wireless connected computers able to SEE your problem 98
> computer {does it appear anywhere in your son's actual network [if he is the
> one with the wireless base unit]}?
>
>
> What Gary is suggesting is, that the adapter MIGHT be installed, but the
> adapter in the 98 box is not connecting to the network, which will cause a
> network error. Errors like you are receiving can also occur [after an
> install] because the adapter can not connect to the network, hence it is an
> error.
> What you have posted is that the adapter "apparently" IS installed [or at
> least shown in the Network configuration].
> AS YOU POSTED:
> Client for Microsoft Networks
> Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
> Dial-Up Adapter
> TCP/IP->Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
> TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter
> and...
> Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon.
>
>
> I use your "son as" the identifier below, but it refers to whoever has the
> base transceiver and the actual unit.
> Your son MUST add your computer to his network or allow that address in the
> acceptable range OR you must be using the address range he has allowed or is
> using as his network. If he setup static addressing then your computer must
> also use a static address in the range he has allowed. You will also need to
> use the same compression and security [WEP/WPA-PSK/WPA-2/whatever and should
> be the same 64/128/etc., SSID{key}, etc. between the two - your adapter and
> his base transceiver, they MUST be the same. Recheck the ENCRYPTION/SECURITY
> ISSUES and basic setup sections on my web page for details.
>
> Have you checked in the wireless base transceiver for what the actual
> network configuration is? The 98 computer MUST be using *that* network
> addressing range and the transciever address should/would be the gateway in
> your computer Belkin TCP/IP, hence the reason for running winipcfg, to see
> if the adapter IS attempting to communicate, and whether *your* IP address
> is in the *wireless base transceiver* range..
>
> Any firewall between you and the transceiver MUST allow access/talking to
> occur. Check your computer firewall, and make sure it has the local network
> allowance [the wireless network range]. IF you are running Norton/Symantec
> or McAfee we need to know that specifically, and any other Anti-V,
> Anti-SpyWare, etc..
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > --
> _________
>
>
> | "MEB" wrote:
> |
> | > Sorry, slightly distracted. Did you check for proper TCP/IP settings, or
> did
> | > you not get that far?
> | >
> | > IF the card is shown, but not working properly AND you did check the
> TCP/IP
> | > and it is correct, did you check for an upgrade {BIOS} for the device?
> | >
> | > Winipcfg > Details > {what}?
> | >
> | > Are you also using ICS in the system {or did you at one time?}?
> | >
> | > Did you try the ping diagnostics?
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | > "Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:56494402-ED9E-493F-8FF6-08ADE9CDE63F@microsoft.com...
> | > | Hello MEB,
> | > |
> | > | I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff on
> | > | networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on
> troubleshooting
> | > | adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the
> EXACT
> | > | error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows
> Networking
> | > | window pops up...
> | > | "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter (0001) is
> not
> | > | working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more
> information,
> | > | see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help".
> | > |
> | > | You also asked what is listed in Control Panel>Networks:
> | > | Client for Microsoft Networks
> | > | Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
> | > | Dial-Up Adapter
> | > | TCP/IP->Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
> | > | TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter
> | > | and...
> | > | Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon.
> | > |
> | > | There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote computers
> in
> | > my
> | > | network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road?
> | > |
> | > | Cheers, Sandy.
> | > |
> | > | "MEB" wrote:
> | > |
> | > | > Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get lost in
> the
> | > | > page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for
> general
> | > | > diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might be
> | > | > informative.
> | > | >
> | > | > Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good
> luck.
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > | > --
> | > | > _________
> | > | >
> | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:18AC5D03-5CBA-4507-A2DB-424BA1A9AD42@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | Hi MEB,
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me some
> time
> | > to
> | > | > | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | All the best,
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Sandy.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
> | > | > |
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > news:4D4C8B10-9B4B-4B28-B570-0BBC82DA8923@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | Good morning MEB and everybody else!
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke
> | > about
> | > | > last
> | > | > | > | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized
> properly,
> | > yes
> | > | > the
> | > | > | > | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says
> "there
> | > is a
> | > | > | > problem
> | > | > | > | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if
> I
> | > didn't
> | > | > do
> | > | > | > | that in the first place!
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | I have to say I think that this final message would rather
> | > indicate a
> | > | > | > faulty
> | > | > | > | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do you
> | > think?
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Regards, Sandy.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in
> Control
> | > Panel
> | > | > >
> | > | > | > Network. > {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}}
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP
> automatically,
> | > no
> | > | > | > Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*.
> | > | > | > HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of the
> | > network
> | > | > | > must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start > RUN box.
> | > | > | > What is the address for your base unit/wireless router?
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page:
> | > | > | >
> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > _________
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > Okay, please keep us informed.
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > | > _________
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > news:5C18927B-2B7E-46DE-BEF7-176A2543BBB3@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that MEB.
> I'll
> | > | > have a
> | > | > | > go
> | > | > | > | > of
> | > | > | > | > | your suggestions over the week-end and see what happens.
> I'll
> | > | > come
> | > | > | > back
> | > | > | > | > to
> | > | > | > | > | you next week. See you then.
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | Sandy.
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> | > | > | > | > | >
> news:A58BA0DB-EBEF-42F0-9FE2-9FC1EC6A2CFC@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | > | Morning MEB (it is for me!),
> | > | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to get
> my
> | > head
> | > | > | > round!
> | > | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > | The only INF files I removed were the folders listed
> as
> | > Belkin
> | > | > &
> | > | > | > | > Broadcom,
> | > | > | > | > | > | no others.
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other
> | > potentials.
> | > | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > | >
> http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp -
> | > was
> | > | > the
> | > | > | > | > technique
> | > | > | > | > | > you
> | > | > | > | > | > | > used similar to this?
> | > | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | > | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks.
> Yes
> | > sort
> | > | > off
> | > | > | > in my
> | > | > | > | > | > | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are some
> | > extra
> | > | > steps
> | > | > | > I
> | > | > | > | > can
> | > | > | > | > | > try
> | > | > | > | > | > | but what is really useful is I can follow through in a
> | > logical
> | > | > | > | > sequence.
> | > | > | > | > | > | However, looking at the points between steps 15 & 16
> ( I
> | > was
> | > | > | > having
> | > | > | > | > | > another
> | > | > | > | > | > | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I noticed
> the
> | > | > card
> | > | > | > was
> | > | > | > | > not
> | > | > | > | > | > | identified. However, I will go through Netgears'
> sequence
> | > now
> | > | > | > I've
> | > | > | > | > got it
(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:07 am
Post subject: Re: CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B611B714-3730-437C-B0C5-19CD7BCE5613@microsoft.com...
| MEB, Gary,
|
| Right, I've revisited some of the points made earlier. I actually have
the
| modem/router in my property which my son & I setup together, inputting all
| the MAC addresses of all PC's & security settings - reasonably
| straightforward on an Netgear and works well. I ran winipcfg and noted my
| wireless adapter not even listed so there was no point in going any
further
| with that one. I checked with Belkin for any firmware revisions but, as
| suspected, there's no flash 'bios' as such on the card... all done through
| inf. & sys. files in the installation software.
|
| Which brings me onto Gary's point. I've now retried versions 1 through 3
of
| the Belkin application software/drivers using the procedures that worked
in
| getting the drivers to install, and the same error message appears every
time
| on restart that I mentioned in my last post. When opening the "Utility"
| software I get the consistent message: "Incompatible driver version.
Unable
| to load application", then the Belkin utility window opens with "No
adapters"
| on the tab. Now, you can't tell me that 3 versions of drivers are all
| duff... incompatible! To me this is evidence of a duff card and goes back
to
| the point I made originally about the ver.no. on the card ending in "ec" &
| not "uk". If you go to the following link:
|
<http://www.belkin.com/uk/support/article/?lid=enu&pid=F5D7000uk&aid=6199&sc
id=0>
| you'll notice the picture shows this at the end of the model number
'F5D7000'
| and all the software/drivers also end in 'uk' & not 'ec'. I believe I've
got
| a card designed for European use & not UK use. I raised this with Belkin
but
| they wouldn't comment. At this point in time I really cannot see the
problem
| being anything else than this, after exploring all other issues. Am I
right?
|
| Sandy.
Could very well be, but I'm not sure why it would.. having tried the
corrections [and you have tried them all apparently] I would go more for a
bad adapter.
Searching Google for that particular model [ec] only turns up this
discussion... winipcfg showing nothing is not good... and the Belkin
software also unable to find it really is not good. But it doesn't matter,
if you bought the card, and contacted Belkin concerning it shortly after
purchase, then you have the material [the contacts] to request a replacement
from Belkin. Another possibility: If the purchase was recent enough, try to
return it to the store where purchased.
Uhm, however, let's get this straight, you posted:
"OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about last
week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes the
drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a
problem
with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't do
that in the first place!"
So in actuality, that wasn't correct, right [sorry we can only work with
what you present us] the NIC wasn't properly installed/recognized and the
drivers didn't load properly. Just a correction, as these posts are
referenced by others.
As you have spent a large amount of time, I would re-contact Belkin and
tell them you need a new card [you have tried everything, have contacted
them, and the card does NOT work]. If you have another card around or can
borrow one, try that to see if it connects. Then you can point this out to
Belkin as well.
BTW: going through and beyond the first few pages Google shows, does turn up
some rather poor ratings for that adapter.
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| >
| >
| > "Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:77C821E5-4A97-4318-BAF0-18746FE8A620@microsoft.com...
| > | Hi MEB, good to hear from you... yes, as far as I'm aware, my TCP/IP
| > settings
| > | are right. As far as the BIOS upgrade for the Belkin... I didn't know
| > there
| > | was one, I'll check. I haven't gone down the road of pinging or
running
| > | winipcfg as I thought the adapter had to be working first??? And
finally
| > no,
| > | I don't use ICS as the other computers belong to my son next door so
we
| > have
| > | no need to share files etc.!
| > | Cheers, Sandy.
| > |
| >
| > Okay, No ICS entries that might have conflicted.
| >
| > Are the other wireless connected computers able to SEE your problem 98
| > computer {does it appear anywhere in your son's actual network [if he is
the
| > one with the wireless base unit]}?
| >
| >
| > What Gary is suggesting is, that the adapter MIGHT be installed, but
the
| > adapter in the 98 box is not connecting to the network, which will cause
a
| > network error. Errors like you are receiving can also occur [after an
| > install] because the adapter can not connect to the network, hence it is
an
| > error.
| > What you have posted is that the adapter "apparently" IS installed [or
at
| > least shown in the Network configuration].
| > AS YOU POSTED:
| > Client for Microsoft Networks
| > Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
| > Dial-Up Adapter
| > TCP/IP->Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
| > TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter
| > and...
| > Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon.
| >
| >
| > I use your "son as" the identifier below, but it refers to whoever has
the
| > base transceiver and the actual unit.
| > Your son MUST add your computer to his network or allow that address in
the
| > acceptable range OR you must be using the address range he has allowed
or is
| > using as his network. If he setup static addressing then your computer
must
| > also use a static address in the range he has allowed. You will also
need to
| > use the same compression and security [WEP/WPA-PSK/WPA-2/whatever and
should
| > be the same 64/128/etc., SSID{key}, etc. between the two - your adapter
and
| > his base transceiver, they MUST be the same. Recheck the
ENCRYPTION/SECURITY
| > ISSUES and basic setup sections on my web page for details.
| >
| > Have you checked in the wireless base transceiver for what the actual
| > network configuration is? The 98 computer MUST be using *that* network
| > addressing range and the transciever address should/would be the gateway
in
| > your computer Belkin TCP/IP, hence the reason for running winipcfg, to
see
| > if the adapter IS attempting to communicate, and whether *your* IP
address
| > is in the *wireless base transceiver* range..
| >
| > Any firewall between you and the transceiver MUST allow access/talking
to
| > occur. Check your computer firewall, and make sure it has the local
network
| > allowance [the wireless network range]. IF you are running
Norton/Symantec
| > or McAfee we need to know that specifically, and any other Anti-V,
| > Anti-SpyWare, etc..
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > --
| > _________
| >
| >
| > | "MEB" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Sorry, slightly distracted. Did you check for proper TCP/IP
settings, or
| > did
| > | > you not get that far?
| > | >
| > | > IF the card is shown, but not working properly AND you did check
the
| > TCP/IP
| > | > and it is correct, did you check for an upgrade {BIOS} for the
device?
| > | >
| > | > Winipcfg > Details > {what}?
| > | >
| > | > Are you also using ICS in the system {or did you at one time?}?
| > | >
| > | > Did you try the ping diagnostics?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | > "Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:56494402-ED9E-493F-8FF6-08ADE9CDE63F@microsoft.com...
| > | > | Hello MEB,
| > | > |
| > | > | I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff
on
| > | > | networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on
| > troubleshooting
| > | > | adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the
| > EXACT
| > | > | error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows
| > Networking
| > | > | window pops up...
| > | > | "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
(0001) is
| > not
| > | > | working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more
| > information,
| > | > | see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help".
| > | > |
| > | > | You also asked what is listed in Control Panel>Networks:
| > | > | Client for Microsoft Networks
| > | > | Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
| > | > | Dial-Up Adapter
| > | > | TCP/IP->Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
| > | > | TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter
| > | > | and...
| > | > | Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon.
| > | > |
| > | > | There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote
computers
| > in
| > | > my
| > | > | network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road?
| > | > |
| > | > | Cheers, Sandy.
| > | > |
| > | > | "MEB" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get
lost in
| > the
| > | > | > page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for
| > general
| > | > | > diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might
be
| > | > | > informative.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good
| > luck.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > | > | > --
| > | > | > _________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:18AC5D03-5CBA-4507-A2DB-424BA1A9AD42@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | Hi MEB,
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me
some
| > time
| > | > to
| > | > | > | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | All the best,
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Sandy.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | > news:4D4C8B10-9B4B-4B28-B570-0BBC82DA8923@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | Good morning MEB and everybody else!
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | OK some success. After going through the procedures we
spoke
| > | > about
| > | > | > last
| > | > | > | > | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized
| > properly,
| > | > yes
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says
| > "there
| > | > is a
| > | > | > | > problem
| > | > | > | > | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As
if
| > I
| > | > didn't
| > | > | > do
| > | > | > | > | that in the first place!
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | I have to say I think that this final message would rather
| > | > indicate a
| > | > | > | > faulty
| > | > | > | > | card which may account for all the difficulties. What do
you
| > | > think?
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Regards, Sandy.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > What is the EXACT error message and what is now shown in
| > Control
| > | > Panel
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > Network. > {NIC adapter {Belkin 54g wireless}}
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > What you're looking for is TCP/IP set for Obtain IP
| > automatically,
| > | > no
| > | > | > | > Gateway, no WINS, and other *INITIALLY*.
| > | > | > | > HOWEVER, as this is part of a wireless network, the rest of
the
| > | > network
| > | > | > | > must be found. RUN * winipcfg * in the Start > RUN box.
| > | > | > | > What is the address for your base unit/wireless router?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Here's a general network diagnostic/setup page:
| > | > | > | >
| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/NETWORKING.htm | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > _________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > Okay, please keep us informed.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > _________
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
| > | > | > | > | >
news:5C18927B-2B7E-46DE-BEF7-176A2543BBB3@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | Gosh... more stuff to think about! Thanks for that
MEB.
| > I'll
| > | > | > have a
| > | > | > | > go
| > | > | > | > | > of
| > | > | > | > | > | your suggestions over the week-end and see what
happens.
| > I'll
| > | > | > come
| > | > | > | > back
| > | > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | > | you next week. See you then.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | Sandy.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
| > message
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > news:A58BA0DB-EBEF-42F0-9FE2-9FC1EC6A2CFC@microsoft.com...
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Morning MEB (it is for me!),
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Thanks for your reply... lots of stuff for me to
get
| > my
| > | > head
| > | > | > | > round!
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | The only INF files I removed were the folders
listed
| > as
| > | > Belkin
| > | > | > &
| > | > | > | > | > Broadcom,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | no others.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Okay, that was important, we now can focus on other
| > | > potentials.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N100393.asp -
| > | > was
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | > technique
| > | > | > | > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > used similar to this?
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | Just printed this off - useful stuff here, thanks.
| > Yes
| > | > sort
| > | > | > off
| > | > | > | > in my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | fumbling way trying to muddle through. There are
some
| > | > extra
| > | > | > steps
| > | > | > | > I
| > | > | > | > | > can
| > | > | > | > | > | > try
| > | > | > | > | > | > | but what is really useful is I can follow through
in a
| > | > logical
| > | > | > | > | > sequence.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | However, looking at the points between steps 15 &
16
| > ( I
| > | > was
| > | > | > | > having
| > | > | > | > | > | > another
| > | > | > | > | > | > | go last night whilst waiting for this post), I
noticed
| > the
| > | > | > card
| > | > | > | > was
| > | > | > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > | > | > | identified. However, I will go through Netgears'
| > sequence
| > | > now
| > | > | > | > I've
| > | > | > | > | > got it
(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:28 am
Post subject: Re: CAN'T INSTALL BELKIN NIC DRIVERS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Thanks MEB. I really wanted some substance & confirmation that I was doing
the right thing before tackling Belkin. On my post you quoted below, I'm
afraid that what I said was indeed the case, the drivers were listed
correctly as confirmed in Properties for the adapter in Device Manager, as
was the name of the NIC, albeit with a yellow exclamation mark. I apologize
for any ambiguity but I try to be as accurate as possible. I also respect
your comments as to the quality of Belkin NIC's... if the worse happens, then
maybe a Netgear would be better?
I really appreciate the work that you guys on these forums do, giving up
your time presumably freely, to help out us D-I-Y'ers from all over the
world. I think you're stars and need suitable recognition for it. I guess
this is the end of the thread, so with that, many, many thanks.
Best regards,
Sandy.
"MEB" wrote:
> Could very well be, but I'm not sure why it would.. having tried the
> corrections [and you have tried them all apparently] I would go more for a
> bad adapter.
> Searching Google for that particular model [ec] only turns up this
> discussion... winipcfg showing nothing is not good... and the Belkin
> software also unable to find it really is not good. But it doesn't matter,
> if you bought the card, and contacted Belkin concerning it shortly after
> purchase, then you have the material [the contacts] to request a replacement
> from Belkin. Another possibility: If the purchase was recent enough, try to
> return it to the store where purchased.
>
> Uhm, however, let's get this straight, you posted:
> "OK some success. After going through the procedures we spoke about last
> week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized properly, yes the
> drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says "there is a
> problem
> with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As if I didn't do
> that in the first place!"
>
> So in actuality, that wasn't correct, right [sorry we can only work with
> what you present us] the NIC wasn't properly installed/recognized and the
> drivers didn't load properly. Just a correction, as these posts are
> referenced by others.
>
> As you have spent a large amount of time, I would re-contact Belkin and
> tell them you need a new card [you have tried everything, have contacted
> them, and the card does NOT work]. If you have another card around or can
> borrow one, try that to see if it connects. Then you can point this out to
> Belkin as well.
>
> BTW: going through and beyond the first few pages Google shows, does turn up
> some rather poor ratings for that adapter.
> "Sandy" <Sandy DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B611B714-3730-437C-B0C5-19CD7BCE5613@microsoft.com...
> | MEB, Gary,
> |
> | Right, I've revisited some of the points made earlier. I actually have
> the
> | modem/router in my property which my son & I setup together, inputting all
> | the MAC addresses of all PC's & security settings - reasonably
> | straightforward on an Netgear and works well. I ran winipcfg and noted my
> | wireless adapter not even listed so there was no point in going any
> further
> | with that one. I checked with Belkin for any firmware revisions but, as
> | suspected, there's no flash 'bios' as such on the card... all done through
> | inf. & sys. files in the installation software.
> |
> | Which brings me onto Gary's point. I've now retried versions 1 through 3
> of
> | the Belkin application software/drivers using the procedures that worked
> in
> | getting the drivers to install, and the same error message appears every
> time
> | on restart that I mentioned in my last post. When opening the "Utility"
> | software I get the consistent message: "Incompatible driver version.
> Unable
> | to load application", then the Belkin utility window opens with "No
> adapters"
> | on the tab. Now, you can't tell me that 3 versions of drivers are all
> | duff... incompatible! To me this is evidence of a duff card and goes back
> to
> | the point I made originally about the ver.no. on the card ending in "ec" &
> | not "uk". If you go to the following link:
> |
> <http://www.belkin.com/uk/support/article/?lid=enu&pid=F5D7000uk&aid=6199&sc
> id=0>
> | you'll notice the picture shows this at the end of the model number
> 'F5D7000'
> | and all the software/drivers also end in 'uk' & not 'ec'. I believe I've
> got
> | a card designed for European use & not UK use. I raised this with Belkin
> but
> | they wouldn't comment. At this point in time I really cannot see the
> problem
> | being anything else than this, after exploring all other issues. Am I
> right?
> |
> | Sandy.
>
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > --
> _________
>
>
> |
> | "MEB" wrote:
> |
> | >
> | >
> | > "Sandy" <Sandy DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > news:77C821E5-4A97-4318-BAF0-18746FE8A620@microsoft.com...
> | > | Hi MEB, good to hear from you... yes, as far as I'm aware, my TCP/IP
> | > settings
> | > | are right. As far as the BIOS upgrade for the Belkin... I didn't know
> | > there
> | > | was one, I'll check. I haven't gone down the road of pinging or
> running
> | > | winipcfg as I thought the adapter had to be working first??? And
> finally
> | > no,
> | > | I don't use ICS as the other computers belong to my son next door so
> we
> | > have
> | > | no need to share files etc.!
> | > | Cheers, Sandy.
> | > |
> | >
> | > Okay, No ICS entries that might have conflicted.
> | >
> | > Are the other wireless connected computers able to SEE your problem 98
> | > computer {does it appear anywhere in your son's actual network [if he is
> the
> | > one with the wireless base unit]}?
> | >
> | >
> | > What Gary is suggesting is, that the adapter MIGHT be installed, but
> the
> | > adapter in the 98 box is not connecting to the network, which will cause
> a
> | > network error. Errors like you are receiving can also occur [after an
> | > install] because the adapter can not connect to the network, hence it is
> an
> | > error.
> | > What you have posted is that the adapter "apparently" IS installed [or
> at
> | > least shown in the Network configuration].
> | > AS YOU POSTED:
> | > Client for Microsoft Networks
> | > Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
> | > Dial-Up Adapter
> | > TCP/IP->Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
> | > TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter
> | > and...
> | > Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon.
> | >
> | >
> | > I use your "son as" the identifier below, but it refers to whoever has
> the
> | > base transceiver and the actual unit.
> | > Your son MUST add your computer to his network or allow that address in
> the
> | > acceptable range OR you must be using the address range he has allowed
> or is
> | > using as his network. If he setup static addressing then your computer
> must
> | > also use a static address in the range he has allowed. You will also
> need to
> | > use the same compression and security [WEP/WPA-PSK/WPA-2/whatever and
> should
> | > be the same 64/128/etc., SSID{key}, etc. between the two - your adapter
> and
> | > his base transceiver, they MUST be the same. Recheck the
> ENCRYPTION/SECURITY
> | > ISSUES and basic setup sections on my web page for details.
> | >
> | > Have you checked in the wireless base transceiver for what the actual
> | > network configuration is? The 98 computer MUST be using *that* network
> | > addressing range and the transciever address should/would be the gateway
> in
> | > your computer Belkin TCP/IP, hence the reason for running winipcfg, to
> see
> | > if the adapter IS attempting to communicate, and whether *your* IP
> address
> | > is in the *wireless base transceiver* range..
> | >
> | > Any firewall between you and the transceiver MUST allow access/talking
> to
> | > occur. Check your computer firewall, and make sure it has the local
> network
> | > allowance [the wireless network range]. IF you are running
> Norton/Symantec
> | > or McAfee we need to know that specifically, and any other Anti-V,
> | > Anti-SpyWare, etc..
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | >
> | > | "MEB" wrote:
> | > |
> | > | > Sorry, slightly distracted. Did you check for proper TCP/IP
> settings, or
> | > did
> | > | > you not get that far?
> | > | >
> | > | > IF the card is shown, but not working properly AND you did check
> the
> | > TCP/IP
> | > | > and it is correct, did you check for an upgrade {BIOS} for the
> device?
> | > | >
> | > | > Winipcfg > Details > {what}?
> | > | >
> | > | > Are you also using ICS in the system {or did you at one time?}?
> | > | >
> | > | > Did you try the ping diagnostics?
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > | > --
> | > | > _________
> | > | >
> | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:56494402-ED9E-493F-8FF6-08ADE9CDE63F@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | Hello MEB,
> | > | > |
> | > | > | I've had some time to examine your webpage, lots of useful stuff
> on
> | > | > | networking and problems with, but I didn't find much on
> | > troubleshooting
> | > | > | adapter installation. But to answer your last questions about the
> | > EXACT
> | > | > | error message, this happens on boot-up and/or restart: Windows
> | > Networking
> | > | > | window pops up...
> | > | > | "Your network adapter Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
> (0001) is
> | > not
> | > | > | working properly. You may need to set it up again. For more
> | > information,
> | > | > | see the Network Troubleshooter in Windows Help".
> | > | > |
> | > | > | You also asked what is listed in Control Panel>Networks:
> | > | > | Client for Microsoft Networks
> | > | > | Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
> | > | > | Dial-Up Adapter
> | > | > | TCP/IP->Belkin Wireless 54Mbps Desktop Adapter
> | > | > | TCP/IP->Dial-Up Adapter
> | > | > | and...
> | > | > | Primary Network Logon: Windows Logon.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | There's no problems with the modem/router as 3 other remote
> computers
> | > in
> | > | > my
> | > | > | network connect to it OK. Have we come to the end of the road?
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Cheers, Sandy.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
> | > | > |
> | > | > | > Sorry, marked this for response and overlooked it. Don't get
> lost in
> | > the
> | > | > | > page and links, it really isn't that difficult. The page is for
> | > general
> | > | > | > diagnostics and information/links to other materials which might
> be
> | > | > | > informative.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Post back with success or if more personal help is needed. Good
> | > luck.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com > | > | > | > --
> | > | > | > _________
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > news:18AC5D03-5CBA-4507-A2DB-424BA1A9AD42@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | Hi MEB,
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Gosh! You've given me a lot to look at & explore. Give me
> some
> | > time
> | > | > to
> | > | > | > | study all this and then I'll come back to you. Thanks.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | All the best,
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | Sandy.
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | "MEB" wrote:
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | >
> | > | > | > | > "Sandy" <Sandy DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > | > | > news:4D4C8B10-9B4B-4B28-B570-0BBC82DA8923@microsoft.com...
> | > | > | > | > | Good morning MEB and everybody else!
> | > | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | > | OK some success. After going through the procedures we
> spoke
> | > | > about
> | > | > | > last
> | > | > | > | > | week over the week-end, yes the NIC is now recognized
> | > properly,
> | > | > yes
> | > | > | > the
> | > | > | > | > | drivers finally loaded successfully, but no, Windows says
> | > "there
> | > | > is a
> | > | > | > | > problem
> | > | > | > | > | with my NIC" on restart go & "run the troubleshooter"! As
> if
> | > I
> | > | > didn't
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