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Jerry Bank

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:11 am
Post subject: Re: Dummy printer Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>win98>gen_discussion, others (more info?)

In article <uGTPy5J5HHA.3916.DeleteThis@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, JRichards.DeleteThis@msn.com.au
says...
> You requirement is not quite clear. Does the file you are creating have to
> be a print file for a particular type of printer? This would a file that
> you then transfer to another machine that has that type of printer attached,
> and copy to that printer in order to print it.
>
> Or are you trying to use a print procedure to create a certain document
> type, such as plain text or postscript or PDF?
>
Let me explain precisely what I am trying to do. I have an ancient dos
program that I use to do accounting for a very small business. I would
like to continue using it. However, while it was able to print its
reports to my old dot-matrix printer, it really can't handle my current
laser printer.

The program itself only prints to lpt1. Previously I used the simple
program prn2dos, which sent the printing to a file, which I then edited
and printed out in Windows. Since upgrading my computer it no longer
works.

I have been trying to find a way to do this task. I did find a program
called dos2usb, but it only works erratically.

I would very much appreciate any suggestions as to how I can solve this
problem.

Thanks.
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Trenton, New Jersey
Music is the language of the gods.
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RobertVA

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Since: Jan 10, 2007
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:11 am
Post subject: Re: Dummy printer Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jerry Bank wrote:
> In article <uGTPy5J5HHA.3916 RemoveThis @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, JRichards RemoveThis @msn.com.au
> says...
>> You requirement is not quite clear. Does the file you are creating have to
>> be a print file for a particular type of printer? This would a file that
>> you then transfer to another machine that has that type of printer attached,
>> and copy to that printer in order to print it.
>>
>> Or are you trying to use a print procedure to create a certain document
>> type, such as plain text or postscript or PDF?
>>
> Let me explain precisely what I am trying to do. I have an ancient dos
> program that I use to do accounting for a very small business. I would
> like to continue using it. However, while it was able to print its
> reports to my old dot-matrix printer, it really can't handle my current
> laser printer.
>
> The program itself only prints to lpt1. Previously I used the simple
> program prn2dos, which sent the printing to a file, which I then edited
> and printed out in Windows. Since upgrading my computer it no longer
> works.
>
> I have been trying to find a way to do this task. I did find a program
> called dos2usb, but it only works erratically.
>
> I would very much appreciate any suggestions as to how I can solve this
> problem.
>
> Thanks.
Have your tried installing the Generic Text to file "printer"

You would only need to click a file name and press the "Enter" key when
the file name dialog appears.
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Gary S. Terhune

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Since: Mar 22, 2007
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:11 am
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What, exactly, do you mean when you say you "upgraded" your computer.
Upgraded it from what to what?

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MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Jerry Bank" <bankcello RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.2136b6c0916df579989712@news.verizon.net...
> In article <uGTPy5J5HHA.3916 RemoveThis @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, JRichards RemoveThis @msn.com.au
> says...
>> You requirement is not quite clear. Does the file you are creating have
>> to
>> be a print file for a particular type of printer? This would a file that
>> you then transfer to another machine that has that type of printer
>> attached,
>> and copy to that printer in order to print it.
>>
>> Or are you trying to use a print procedure to create a certain document
>> type, such as plain text or postscript or PDF?
>>
> Let me explain precisely what I am trying to do. I have an ancient dos
> program that I use to do accounting for a very small business. I would
> like to continue using it. However, while it was able to print its
> reports to my old dot-matrix printer, it really can't handle my current
> laser printer.
>
> The program itself only prints to lpt1. Previously I used the simple
> program prn2dos, which sent the printing to a file, which I then edited
> and printed out in Windows. Since upgrading my computer it no longer
> works.
>
> I have been trying to find a way to do this task. I did find a program
> called dos2usb, but it only works erratically.
>
> I would very much appreciate any suggestions as to how I can solve this
> problem.
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Jerry Bank
> Trenton, New Jersey
> Music is the language of the gods.
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Gary S. Terhune

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Since: Mar 22, 2007
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:11 am
Post subject: Re: Dummy printer Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

The man needs to print to file (a PRN file, I think, not text file) from a
DOS app, something that he can then send to the printer from Windows.
Generic Text to File won't help. Unfortunately, Jerry knows more about it
than I or most others here do.

Hey, Jerry... I have a couple of old dot matrix printers... or maybe my Dad
has them now. Might be the simplest solution to find a used one, not that
it's that simple, <g>. You still have an LPT port?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail RemoveThis @invalid.com> wrote in message
news:%231dG0lT5HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Jerry Bank wrote:
>> In article <uGTPy5J5HHA.3916 RemoveThis @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, JRichards RemoveThis @msn.com.au
>> says...
>>> You requirement is not quite clear. Does the file you are creating have
>>> to be a print file for a particular type of printer? This would a file
>>> that you then transfer to another machine that has that type of printer
>>> attached, and copy to that printer in order to print it.
>>>
>>> Or are you trying to use a print procedure to create a certain document
>>> type, such as plain text or postscript or PDF?
>>>
>> Let me explain precisely what I am trying to do. I have an ancient dos
>> program that I use to do accounting for a very small business. I would
>> like to continue using it. However, while it was able to print its
>> reports to my old dot-matrix printer, it really can't handle my current
>> laser printer.
>>
>> The program itself only prints to lpt1. Previously I used the simple
>> program prn2dos, which sent the printing to a file, which I then edited
>> and printed out in Windows. Since upgrading my computer it no longer
>> works.
>>
>> I have been trying to find a way to do this task. I did find a program
>> called dos2usb, but it only works erratically.
>>
>> I would very much appreciate any suggestions as to how I can solve this
>> problem.
>>
>> Thanks.
> Have your tried installing the Generic Text to file "printer"
>
> You would only need to click a file name and press the "Enter" key when
> the file name dialog appears.
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user1435

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:11 am
Post subject: Re: Dummy printer Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I don't know about the OP's laser printer, but all of my printers here have the
option "Print to file" which does save it as a .prn file.

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Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:OnKgwxT5HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> The man needs to print to file (a PRN file, I think, not text file) from a DOS app,
> something that he can then send to the printer from Windows. Generic Text to File
> won't help. Unfortunately, Jerry knows more about it than I or most others here do.
>
> Hey, Jerry... I have a couple of old dot matrix printers... or maybe my Dad has
> them now. Might be the simplest solution to find a used one, not that it's that
> simple, <g>. You still have an LPT port?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail DeleteThis @invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:%231dG0lT5HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Jerry Bank wrote:
>>> In article <uGTPy5J5HHA.3916 DeleteThis @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, JRichards DeleteThis @msn.com.au says...
>>>> You requirement is not quite clear. Does the file you are creating have to be a
>>>> print file for a particular type of printer? This would a file that you then
>>>> transfer to another machine that has that type of printer attached, and copy to
>>>> that printer in order to print it.
>>>>
>>>> Or are you trying to use a print procedure to create a certain document type,
>>>> such as plain text or postscript or PDF?
>>>>
>>> Let me explain precisely what I am trying to do. I have an ancient dos program
>>> that I use to do accounting for a very small business. I would like to continue
>>> using it. However, while it was able to print its reports to my old dot-matrix
>>> printer, it really can't handle my current laser printer.
>>>
>>> The program itself only prints to lpt1. Previously I used the simple program
>>> prn2dos, which sent the printing to a file, which I then edited and printed out
>>> in Windows. Since upgrading my computer it no longer works.
>>>
>>> I have been trying to find a way to do this task. I did find a program called
>>> dos2usb, but it only works erratically.
>>>
>>> I would very much appreciate any suggestions as to how I can solve this problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>> Have your tried installing the Generic Text to file "printer"
>>
>> You would only need to click a file name and press the "Enter" key when the file
>> name dialog appears.
>
>
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Gary S. Terhune

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:30 am
Post subject: Re: Dummy printer Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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But do they have DOS drivers? Honest, I don't know much about this aspect,
and my laser printers are at the other house.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:eypa7rU5HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I don't know about the OP's laser printer, but all of my printers here
> have the option "Print to file" which does save it as a .prn file.
>
> --
>
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:OnKgwxT5HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> The man needs to print to file (a PRN file, I think, not text file) from
>> a DOS app, something that he can then send to the printer from Windows.
>> Generic Text to File won't help. Unfortunately, Jerry knows more about it
>> than I or most others here do.
>>
>> Hey, Jerry... I have a couple of old dot matrix printers... or maybe my
>> Dad has them now. Might be the simplest solution to find a used one, not
>> that it's that simple, <g>. You still have an LPT port?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail.TakeThisOut@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:%231dG0lT5HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Jerry Bank wrote:
>>>> In article <uGTPy5J5HHA.3916.TakeThisOut@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
>>>> JRichards.TakeThisOut@msn.com.au says...
>>>>> You requirement is not quite clear. Does the file you are creating
>>>>> have to be a print file for a particular type of printer? This would
>>>>> a file that you then transfer to another machine that has that type of
>>>>> printer attached, and copy to that printer in order to print it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or are you trying to use a print procedure to create a certain
>>>>> document type, such as plain text or postscript or PDF?
>>>>>
>>>> Let me explain precisely what I am trying to do. I have an ancient dos
>>>> program that I use to do accounting for a very small business. I would
>>>> like to continue using it. However, while it was able to print its
>>>> reports to my old dot-matrix printer, it really can't handle my current
>>>> laser printer.
>>>>
>>>> The program itself only prints to lpt1. Previously I used the simple
>>>> program prn2dos, which sent the printing to a file, which I then edited
>>>> and printed out in Windows. Since upgrading my computer it no longer
>>>> works.
>>>>
>>>> I have been trying to find a way to do this task. I did find a program
>>>> called dos2usb, but it only works erratically.
>>>>
>>>> I would very much appreciate any suggestions as to how I can solve this
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>> Have your tried installing the Generic Text to file "printer"
>>>
>>> You would only need to click a file name and press the "Enter" key when
>>> the file name dialog appears.
>>
>>
>
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user1435

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:35 am
Post subject: Re: Dummy printer Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I don't think DOS drivers are the problem, the problem is printing from DOS to a
USB printer and USB is supported in DOS. Frank has posted what the OP needs to do,
set the printer as shared and direct the LPT1 port, which is supported in DOS, to the
printer via the net use command.

--


Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:eizgGnY5HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> But do they have DOS drivers? Honest, I don't know much about this aspect, and my
> laser printers are at the other house.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> news:eypa7rU5HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I don't know about the OP's laser printer, but all of my printers here have the
>> option "Print to file" which does save it as a .prn file.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>
>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:OnKgwxT5HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> The man needs to print to file (a PRN file, I think, not text file) from a DOS
>>> app, something that he can then send to the printer from Windows. Generic Text to
>>> File won't help. Unfortunately, Jerry knows more about it than I or most others
>>> here do.
>>>
>>> Hey, Jerry... I have a couple of old dot matrix printers... or maybe my Dad has
>>> them now. Might be the simplest solution to find a used one, not that it's that
>>> simple, <g>. You still have an LPT port?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail.RemoveThis@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%231dG0lT5HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Jerry Bank wrote:
>>>>> In article <uGTPy5J5HHA.3916.RemoveThis@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, JRichards.RemoveThis@msn.com.au
>>>>> says...
>>>>>> You requirement is not quite clear. Does the file you are creating have to be
>>>>>> a print file for a particular type of printer? This would a file that you
>>>>>> then transfer to another machine that has that type of printer attached, and
>>>>>> copy to that printer in order to print it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or are you trying to use a print procedure to create a certain document type,
>>>>>> such as plain text or postscript or PDF?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Let me explain precisely what I am trying to do. I have an ancient dos program
>>>>> that I use to do accounting for a very small business. I would like to
>>>>> continue using it. However, while it was able to print its reports to my old
>>>>> dot-matrix printer, it really can't handle my current laser printer.
>>>>>
>>>>> The program itself only prints to lpt1. Previously I used the simple program
>>>>> prn2dos, which sent the printing to a file, which I then edited and printed out
>>>>> in Windows. Since upgrading my computer it no longer works.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been trying to find a way to do this task. I did find a program called
>>>>> dos2usb, but it only works erratically.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would very much appreciate any suggestions as to how I can solve this
>>>>> problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Have your tried installing the Generic Text to file "printer"
>>>>
>>>> You would only need to click a file name and press the "Enter" key when the file
>>>> name dialog appears.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:35 am
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My fuzziness... I figure if you want to print from DOS, you need DOS print
drivers. I wouldn't expect modern printers to be able to do that, though I
don't understand DOS printing all that well, not at all, in fact. Does an
app just send the data to the LPT port? What converts it to PRN?

My color laser printers (HP4550 and Konika-Minolta 3300) both take PS and
PCL. Do they first convert it to PCL? My understanding is that they could
handle both PS and PCL directly, without converting.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
news:emA3JtZ5HHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I don't think DOS drivers are the problem, the problem is printing from
> DOS to a USB printer and USB is supported in DOS. Frank has posted what
> the OP needs to do, set the printer as shared and direct the LPT1 port,
> which is supported in DOS, to the printer via the net use command.
>
> --
>
>
> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
> Conflicts start where information lacks.
> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>
> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:eizgGnY5HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> But do they have DOS drivers? Honest, I don't know much about this
>> aspect, and my laser printers are at the other house.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
>> news:eypa7rU5HHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I don't know about the OP's laser printer, but all of my printers here
>>> have the option "Print to file" which does save it as a .prn file.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
>>> Conflicts start where information lacks.
>>> http://basconotw.mvps.org/
>>>
>>> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:OnKgwxT5HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> The man needs to print to file (a PRN file, I think, not text file)
>>>> from a DOS app, something that he can then send to the printer from
>>>> Windows. Generic Text to File won't help. Unfortunately, Jerry knows
>>>> more about it than I or most others here do.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, Jerry... I have a couple of old dot matrix printers... or maybe my
>>>> Dad has them now. Might be the simplest solution to find a used one,
>>>> not that it's that simple, <g>. You still have an LPT port?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "RobertVA" <robert_c72athotmail DeleteThis @invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%231dG0lT5HHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Jerry Bank wrote:
>>>>>> In article <uGTPy5J5HHA.3916 DeleteThis @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
>>>>>> JRichards DeleteThis @msn.com.au says...
>>>>>>> You requirement is not quite clear. Does the file you are creating
>>>>>>> have to be a print file for a particular type of printer? This
>>>>>>> would a file that you then transfer to another machine that has that
>>>>>>> type of printer attached, and copy to that printer in order to print
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or are you trying to use a print procedure to create a certain
>>>>>>> document type, such as plain text or postscript or PDF?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me explain precisely what I am trying to do. I have an ancient
>>>>>> dos program that I use to do accounting for a very small business. I
>>>>>> would like to continue using it. However, while it was able to print
>>>>>> its reports to my old dot-matrix printer, it really can't handle my
>>>>>> current laser printer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The program itself only prints to lpt1. Previously I used the simple
>>>>>> program prn2dos, which sent the printing to a file, which I then
>>>>>> edited and printed out in Windows. Since upgrading my computer it no
>>>>>> longer works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been trying to find a way to do this task. I did find a
>>>>>> program called dos2usb, but it only works erratically.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would very much appreciate any suggestions as to how I can solve
>>>>>> this problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Have your tried installing the Generic Text to file "printer"
>>>>>
>>>>> You would only need to click a file name and press the "Enter" key
>>>>> when the file name dialog appears.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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