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K. Welch

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Since: May 13, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:03 pm
Post subject: Need DNS to point use external NS for singe website
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>win2000>dns (more info?)

Here's the Scenario:
The local Windows 2000 Domain Server DNS points to itself (as do its
clients) as the default nameserver for its domain mydomain.com. I need for
this to continue. However, the business has an external web server that has a
non-dedicated IP address (in other words, the IP address for the web server
changes from time to time). I need to configure the local Windows 2000 Server
DNS to use external name servers for this single web site (www.mydomain.com)
and using the external nameserver(s) information to find the externally
hosted web server.

I've tried various configurations, but haven't gotten it yet. Any ideas?

I appreciate your input.

Ken
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Meinolf Weber

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Since: Aug 27, 2007
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:58 am
Post subject: Re: Need DNS to point use external NS for singe website [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hello K. Welch,

Ope the DNS management console, open the server properties and go to the
forwarders tab. Here you can set the external DNS servers. If the field is
greyed out just delete the "." zone unde rForward lookup zones, close the
concsole and reopen it. Then you can set them.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Here's the Scenario:
> The local Windows 2000 Domain Server DNS points to itself (as do its
> clients) as the default nameserver for its domain mydomain.com. I need
> for
> this to continue. However, the business has an external web server
> that has a
> non-dedicated IP address (in other words, the IP address for the web
> server
> changes from time to time). I need to configure the local Windows 2000
> Server
> DNS to use external name servers for this single web site
> (www.mydomain.com)
> and using the external nameserver(s) information to find the
> externally
> hosted web server.
> I've tried various configurations, but haven't gotten it yet. Any
> ideas?
>
> I appreciate your input.
>
> Ken
>
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K. Welch

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Since: May 13, 2008
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:57 am
Post subject: Re: Need DNS to point use external NS for singe website [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Thank you for your thoughts.

However, unless I'm missing something, this does not resolve my problem.
External DNS servers are already set, but they are used only if the primary
(internal) DNS server, which is the Domain Controller itself, does not find
the requested data. In this case, it does find the requested data, the domain
mydomain.com has an A resource record pointing to the Domain Contoller's IP
address. But that isn't where the web page www.mydomain.com is. It's on an
external server (meaning elsewhere on the Internet).

What I would like to figure out is if there is a way to get the local DNS
server to forward the query for www.mydomain.com to external DNS servers
while pointing all other requests for mydomain.com to itself.

Thanks,

K.

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello K. Welch,
>
> Ope the DNS management console, open the server properties and go to the
> forwarders tab. Here you can set the external DNS servers. If the field is
> greyed out just delete the "." zone unde rForward lookup zones, close the
> concsole and reopen it. Then you can set them.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
> > Here's the Scenario:
> > The local Windows 2000 Domain Server DNS points to itself (as do its
> > clients) as the default nameserver for its domain mydomain.com. I need
> > for
> > this to continue. However, the business has an external web server
> > that has a
> > non-dedicated IP address (in other words, the IP address for the web
> > server
> > changes from time to time). I need to configure the local Windows 2000
> > Server
> > DNS to use external name servers for this single web site
> > (www.mydomain.com)
> > and using the external nameserver(s) information to find the
> > externally
> > hosted web server.
> > I've tried various configurations, but haven't gotten it yet. Any
> > ideas?
> >
> > I appreciate your input.
> >
> > Ken
> >
>
>
>
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Meinolf Weber

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Since: Sep 17, 2007
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Need DNS to point use external NS for singe website [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Hello K. Welch,

Have alook here:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30216615/internal-domain-na...same.as

Should be your solution

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> Thank you for your thoughts.
>
> However, unless I'm missing something, this does not resolve my
> problem. External DNS servers are already set, but they are used only
> if the primary (internal) DNS server, which is the Domain Controller
> itself, does not find the requested data. In this case, it does find
> the requested data, the domain mydomain.com has an A resource record
> pointing to the Domain Contoller's IP address. But that isn't where
> the web page www.mydomain.com is. It's on an external server (meaning
> elsewhere on the Internet).
>
> What I would like to figure out is if there is a way to get the local
> DNS server to forward the query for www.mydomain.com to external DNS
> servers while pointing all other requests for mydomain.com to itself.
>
> Thanks,
>
> K.
>
> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>
>> Hello K. Welch,
>>
>> Ope the DNS management console, open the server properties and go to
>> the forwarders tab. Here you can set the external DNS servers. If the
>> field is greyed out just delete the "." zone unde rForward lookup
>> zones, close the concsole and reopen it. Then you can set them.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Here's the Scenario:
>>> The local Windows 2000 Domain Server DNS points to itself (as do its
>>> clients) as the default nameserver for its domain mydomain.com. I
>>> need
>>> for
>>> this to continue. However, the business has an external web server
>>> that has a
>>> non-dedicated IP address (in other words, the IP address for the web
>>> server
>>> changes from time to time). I need to configure the local Windows
>>> 2000
>>> Server
>>> DNS to use external name servers for this single web site
>>> (www.mydomain.com)
>>> and using the external nameserver(s) information to find the
>>> externally
>>> hosted web server.
>>> I've tried various configurations, but haven't gotten it yet. Any
>>> ideas?
>>> I appreciate your input.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
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K. Welch

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Since: May 13, 2008
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:48 am
Post subject: Re: Need DNS to point use external NS for singe website [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Thanks for the reference.

Unfortunately, I had previously tried something like this unsuccessfully.
Pherpas it is because the hosting service does use the CNAME www.mydomain.com
pointing to the parent/root domain of mydomain.com, so it ends up back where
we started.

K

"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello K. Welch,
>
> Have alook here:
> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30216615/internal-domain-na...same.as
>
> Should be your solution
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
> > Thank you for your thoughts.
> >
> > However, unless I'm missing something, this does not resolve my
> > problem. External DNS servers are already set, but they are used only
> > if the primary (internal) DNS server, which is the Domain Controller
> > itself, does not find the requested data. In this case, it does find
> > the requested data, the domain mydomain.com has an A resource record
> > pointing to the Domain Contoller's IP address. But that isn't where
> > the web page www.mydomain.com is. It's on an external server (meaning
> > elsewhere on the Internet).
> >
> > What I would like to figure out is if there is a way to get the local
> > DNS server to forward the query for www.mydomain.com to external DNS
> > servers while pointing all other requests for mydomain.com to itself.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > K.
> >
> > "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello K. Welch,
> >>
> >> Ope the DNS management console, open the server properties and go to
> >> the forwarders tab. Here you can set the external DNS servers. If the
> >> field is greyed out just delete the "." zone unde rForward lookup
> >> zones, close the concsole and reopen it. Then you can set them.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>> Here's the Scenario:
> >>> The local Windows 2000 Domain Server DNS points to itself (as do its
> >>> clients) as the default nameserver for its domain mydomain.com. I
> >>> need
> >>> for
> >>> this to continue. However, the business has an external web server
> >>> that has a
> >>> non-dedicated IP address (in other words, the IP address for the web
> >>> server
> >>> changes from time to time). I need to configure the local Windows
> >>> 2000
> >>> Server
> >>> DNS to use external name servers for this single web site
> >>> (www.mydomain.com)
> >>> and using the external nameserver(s) information to find the
> >>> externally
> >>> hosted web server.
> >>> I've tried various configurations, but haven't gotten it yet. Any
> >>> ideas?
> >>> I appreciate your input.
> >>>
> >>> Ken
> >>>
>
>
>
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Ace Fekay [MVP]

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Since: Mar 29, 2006
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:42 pm
Post subject: Re: Need DNS to point use external NS for singe website [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In news:E2B44D66-7965-4CF6-AE0D-AEC4DE7EFF30@microsoft.com,
K. Welch <KWelch DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
> Thanks for the reference.
>
> Unfortunately, I had previously tried something like this
> unsuccessfully. Pherpas it is because the hosting service does use
> the CNAME www.mydomain.com pointing to the parent/root domain of
> mydomain.com, so it ends up back where we started.
>
> K

If you like us to verify if the site is using a CNAME, please post the site
name. There is nothing to be worried about security-wise since it is an
external site. Besides, if you're internal network is behind a NAT and
firewall, you're protected anyway.

I would like to point out that in the link Meinolf provided, where Kevin
Goodknecht and myself discussed this topic, Kevin made a suggestion. I think
you may have missed it. In case you did, here it is:
"If this is the case, all you need to do is create the same CNAME record,
pointing to someotherdomain.com."

Have you tried that suggestion? If so, did it work? I think it should work.

You also have one more option. On ALL of your DCs, install IIS web services.
Once completed, under the default website properties, configure a redirect
to 'www.mydomain.com.'


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Regards,
Ace

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Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT,
MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer

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