(Msg. 41) Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:41 am
Post subject: Re: ActiveX's won't download in IE [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>inetexplorer>ie6>browser, others (more info?)
"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
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....
> Non-working-PC: All Security setting set to "Prompt", except
> "Automatic prompting for ActiveX" which is set to "Disable".
>
> URL:
> http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/promotions/spywarescanner/scanne...sp?dc=1
....
> There is no Info Bar, just the error messge from the page
> that the ActiveX was not downloaded.
Very good. I understand your problem symptom much more clearly now.
Did you also try my suggestion to trace .dll accesses using FileMon?
In fact, what I just did was trace all iexplore entries and highlighted .dll
entries. This gives clear evidence of when the Information bar is shown
by this entry:
0.00594433 iexplore.exe:3576 QUERY INFORMATION F:\WINDOWS\media\Windows XP Information Bar.wav SUCCESS Attributes: N
and just before that I saw (highlighted) lines such as:
DependencyWalker shows that ieframe.dll has both entry points
DllRegisterServer and DllInstall. So you could try
regsvr32 /i ieframe.dll
to see if some bits in the registry need refreshing for its use.
The trace shows other .dlls being accessed in the same breakpoint.
What I would do with them is at least check that you are using the
same versions on both machines.
Other than that I hope you can get some more clues by comparing
FileMon and RegMon traces of your two cases. BTW I find it useful
to wait at least 5 seconds between prompts and after all trace activity
has subsided. E.g. that way I can record which sets of lines each
breakpoint contains. Etc.
(Msg. 42) Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:21 pm
Post subject: Re: ActiveX's won't download in IE [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Lars-Erik Østerud wrote:
> Strange, maybe my newsserver missed that. I try and see.
<snip>
Use the MS newsserver instead to access the MS newsgroups, Lars-Erik: No
subscription/password, messages appear within minutes and are kept available
on the server for a minimum of 90 days. Many other servers infrequently
sync with the MS server and remove messages after 24 hours or less.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org
(Msg. 43) Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:46 pm
Post subject: Re: ActiveX's won't download in IE [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Robert Aldwinckle:
> Did you also try my suggestion to trace .dll accesses using FileMon?
Do you have a link to that again, then I'll try on both system to see.
> 0.00949478 iexplore.exe:3576 READ F:\WINDOWS\system32\xpsp2res.dll SUCCESS Offset: 2687488 Length: 16384
> 0.01665882 iexplore.exe:3576 READ F:\WINDOWS\system32\ieframe.dll SUCCESS Offset: 2536960 Length: 16384
>
> DependencyWalker shows that ieframe.dll has both entry points
> DllRegisterServer and DllInstall. So you could try
>
> regsvr32 /i ieframe.dll
>
> to see if some bits in the registry need refreshing for its use.
(Msg. 44) Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:55 pm
Post subject: Re: ActiveX's won't download in IE [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Robert Aldwinckle:
> regsvr32 /i ieframe.dll
This file is not on the disk on neihter the working nor the
non-working Tried regsvr32 on all other "ie*.dll" files
(Msg. 45) Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:32 pm
Post subject: Re: ActiveX's won't download in IE [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
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> Robert Aldwinckle:
>
>> regsvr32 /i ieframe.dll
>
> This file is not on the disk on neihter the working nor the
> non-working Tried regsvr32 on all other "ie*.dll" files
>
> That disn't help. So I'll try to scan more later...
Oops. I'm actually using IE7b1 and didn't realize that that must be
a new module.
Perhaps somebody else who is using IE6sp2 can help you using
the same technique.
BTW in case you haven't found it yet FileMon is freeware from
SysInternals.
(Msg. 46) Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:48 pm
Post subject: Re: ActiveX's won't download in IE [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
i have the same problem infobar does not pop-up to load activex i have tryd
everthing u have let me no if u get it fixed
"Lars-Erik Xsterud" wrote:
> Robert Aldwinckle:
>
> > regsvr32 /i ieframe.dll
>
> This file is not on the disk on neihter the working nor the
> non-working Tried regsvr32 on all other "ie*.dll" files
>
> That disn't help. So I'll try to scan more later...
> --
> Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605
>
(Msg. 47) Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:16 am
Post subject: Re: ActiveX's won't download in IE [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
I have read through all the posts on this and so far I have seen no mention
of the additional "Kill Bit" elements in MS05-052. Buried in the text of
this bulletin is a list of dll files that have the CLSD Kill Bit modified in
the registry. This is over and above what is carried out in MS05-038. It may
be worth checking to see if any entry is corrupt and not restored to its old
value when uninstalling MS05-052.
I don't profess to fully understand what the Kill Bit does. However, looking
at KB909889 and 909738 does make interesting reading and may help.
I am not saying that this may cure your problems but I don't think anyone
has mentioned this before, so I thought I would raise it just in case.
Alan
"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
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> PA Bear:
>
> > ActiveX controls may not load as expected in Internet Explorer due to
> > defense in depth changes introduced in cumulative security update 896688
> > (MS05-052): http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=909889 >
> Problem is not loading them. If I copy from a PC that downloads
> ActivX'es they work (had to do this with WindowsUpdate to make it
> work). Problem is when accessing a web-site where a new ActiveX should
> be downloaded. It is not. I don't even think it tries. Even when the
> site is in "Trusted" and all settings lowered it doesn't get it >
> And I find no policies or registry entries (have checked all I know of
> that can restrict download, and compared to the working system).
>
> Also have tried all patches suggesten here and from Microsoft Norway.
>
> (of, if only someone had a list of DLLs and regsitry entries that are
> used in the process of downloading ActiveX, but not even Microsoft
> sould get that they said - but obviously someone must know this > --
> Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605
(Msg. 48) Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:31 pm
Post subject: Re: ActiveX's won't download in IE [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
PA Bear:
> Use the MS newsserver instead to access the MS newsgroups, Lars-Erik: No
> subscription/password, messages appear within minutes and are kept available
I use both, poll both my local and MS server (Agent 3.1 can do that
now, jippi
--
Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605
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