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Rob Parsons

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:20 am
Post subject: Re: ActiveX's won't download in IE [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Lars,

There are a number of reasons why an ActiveX control will not be installed.
There is a Group Policy that restricts certain controls (gpedit.msc).
There is also a listing that is updated from MS so one of your puters may be
missing a security update from MS.

Here is a link to a free-ware tool to list your ActiveX Compatibility values
for IE

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/acm.html

"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
news:ORXkf.1783$zc1.1608@amstwist00...
> Still haven't gotten anyway with this. But now I have a news laptop
> with XP SP2 setup, and things work there (all setting the same
> otherwise), AND I was wondering if anyone now what DLL's could affect
> the ActiveX download. If you have any idea I could compare with the
> new PC to see if there is any missing or wrong version DLL's...
> --
> Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605
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Lars-Erik sterud

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(Msg. 34) Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:20 am
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Rob Parsons:

> There are a number of reasons why an ActiveX control will not be installed.
> There is a Group Policy that restricts certain controls (gpedit.msc).

Checked and compared with working PCs. No restrictions found.

> There is also a listing that is updated from MS so one of your puters may be
> missing a security update from MS.

All updates installed on both.

> Here is a link to a free-ware tool to list your ActiveX Compatibility values
> for IE
>
> http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/acm.html

Can I use this to compare the settings on the two systems working with
the two systems not working to look for any differences?

I still can see why this happened. The 4 system are otherwise equal
(same programs, same settings, same tweaks and other stuff as well)
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Lars-Erik sterud

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(Msg. 35) Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:20 am
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Rob Parsons:

> Here is a link to a free-ware tool to list your ActiveX Compatibility values
> for IE
>
> http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/acm.html

Exacly the same ActiveX'es were enabled on both systems.
Found one file with different version (Microsoft Forms DLL, FM20.DLL)
Don't know what that does, but can copy from the working to the
non-working...

And again, all ActiveX'es work if I copy them to the machine, it's
just downloading them that does not work - doesn't even try dl'ing Sad
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Rob Parsons

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(Msg. 36) Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:57 am
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Hi Lars,

Exactly what do you want to do? Are you a developer trying to embed your own
ActiveX in a web page?? It won't upgrade with your new version?

Here is a msdn article about packaging activeX

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/components...tivex/p

"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
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> Rob Parsons:
>
> > Here is a link to a free-ware tool to list your ActiveX Compatibility
values
> > for IE
> >
> > http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/acm.html
>
> Exacly the same ActiveX'es were enabled on both systems.
> Found one file with different version (Microsoft Forms DLL, FM20.DLL)
> Don't know what that does, but can copy from the working to the
> non-working...
>
> And again, all ActiveX'es work if I copy them to the machine, it's
> just downloading them that does not work - doesn't even try dl'ing Sad
> --
> Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605
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Lars-Erik sterud

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(Msg. 37) Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:00 pm
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Rob Parsons:

> Exactly what do you want to do? Are you a developer trying to embed your own
> ActiveX in a web page?? It won't upgrade with your new version?

No, two of my PCs (at work and home) just won't download new ActiveX
components from any web-site anymore (had to copy the WindowsUpdate
ActiveX from another system to even keep my system updated).

ActiveX'es run OK, IE6 just don't want to download new ones from
web-sites. Not even if all security settings are lowest or if the site
is in the Trusted zone. No questions, no download, no error message
(except from the web pages that complain because the isn't there).

And I think I have tried everything now (both suggestion from news,
and from Microsoft Norway), but nothing helps (and MS just wants me to
reinstall XP).

But I still this must be a case of one or more DLLs or registry
settings missing or beeing corrupt, but NO ONE seems to know what DLLs
or registry entries that could cause this malfunction in IE6 Sad

> > Exacly the same ActiveX'es were enabled on both systems.
> > Found one file with different version (Microsoft Forms DLL, FM20.DLL)
> > Don't know what that does, but can copy from the working to the
> > non-working...
> >
> > And again, all ActiveX'es work if I copy them to the machine, it's
> > just downloading them that does not work - doesn't even try dl'ing Sad
> > --
> > Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605
>
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Robert Aldwinckle

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(Msg. 38) Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:00 pm
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"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
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....
> And I think I have tried everything now (both suggestion from news,
> and from Microsoft Norway), but nothing helps (and MS just wants me to
> reinstall XP).


I haven't seen a response to my suggestions to you for how you could
diagnose this.

http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?pg=...=1&tid=


>
> But I still this must be a case of one or more DLLs or registry
> settings missing or beeing corrupt, but NO ONE seems to know what DLLs
> or registry entries that could cause this malfunction in IE6 Sad


Perhaps not but I told you how I would try to find out and I requested
minimally that you give us a specific example to work on.


Robert
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Lars-Erik sterud

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(Msg. 39) Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:20 pm
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Robert Aldwinckle:

> I haven't seen a response to my suggestions to you for how you could
> diagnose this.
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?pg=...=1&tid=

Strange, maybe my newsserver missed that. I try and see.

> Perhaps not but I told you how I would try to find out and I requested
> minimally that you give us a specific example to work on.

I use the Free spyware scanner in the ZoneAlarm (free version)
download page. It gives (or should give) a "Info bar alert" Could use
Windows Update as well, but since I needed that I copied that ActiveX
from a working system, and then I doesn't try do download it again Smile
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Lars-Erik sterud

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(Msg. 40) Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:39 pm
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Robert Aldwinckle:

> I haven't seen a response to my suggestions to you for how you could
> diagnose this.

Working PC: All Security setting set to "Prompt", execpt "Automatic
prompting for ActiveX" which is set to "Disable".

URL:
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/promotions/spywarescanner/scanne...sp?dc=1

Dialog box: Scripts are usually safe. Do you want to allow scripts to
run? Answer: Yes

Dialog box: Do you want to allow software such as ActiveX controls and
plug-ins to run? Answer: Yes

Info Bar: This site might require the following ActiveX control:
'Integrity security scanner' from 'Check Point Software Technologies
Inc'. Click here to install... Answer: Close Info Bar (else it will
download, and I can't test anymore on that working PC Smile

Web page message: Error: You cannot access this page..... (this
obviously since I refused ActiveX download Smile


Non-working-PC: All Security setting set to "Prompt", execpt
"Automatic prompting for ActiveX" which is set to "Disable".

URL:
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/promotions/spywarescanner/scanne...sp?dc=1

Dialog box: Scripts are usually safe. Do you want to allow scripts to
run? Answer: Yes

Dialog box: Do you want to allow software such as ActiveX controls and
plug-ins to run? Answer: Yes

Web page message: Error: You cannot access this page..... (this
obviously since I refused ActiveX download Smile


So again, doesn't seem like it tries to download the ActiveX even if I
answer yes. There is no Info Bar, just the error messge from the page
that the ActiveX was not downloaded. Also I tried with "Trusted" and
with "Automatic prompting" as well. Still no Info bar (but the info
bar works, it appears if I open a web-page with a script or similar
from my local disk, so that doesn't seem to be the problem).

So question remains: Why doesn't IE download ActiveX'es one these to
system, and what causes this (DLL, registry entry, or whatever?)
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