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PA Bear [MS MVP]

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(Msg. 49) Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:49 am
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>inetexplorer>ie6>browser, others (more info?)

You're not "being forced off Hotmail" in Outlook Express (OE) since you have
the option of becoming a Hotmail Plus subscriber. (If you created your free
Hotmail account after 27 September 2004, you wouldn't have been able to
access it in OE in the first place without being a Hotmail Plus subscriber.)

Effective 30 June 2008, OE will not work "perfectly fine" with your Hotmail
account if it's not set up as a POP3 account (which would require (1) a
Hotmail Plus subscription and (2) reconfiguring the account settings.

This change also applies to free Hotmail accounts accessed in MS Outlook
/if/ Outlook Connector isn't installed. (And Outlook Connector users will
have to upgrade from their current version.)
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~PA Bear

Anon wrote:
> Boo Boo Boo -- My OE works just fine. I resent being forced off Hotmail
> when my OE works perfectly fine with it.
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
>> Followup-To
>> set for OE General]
>>
>> Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
>> <quote>
>> As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will
>> no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders]
>> via Outlook Express...
>> </quote>
>> Source:
>> http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry
>>
>> ======================
>>
>> Please Note:
>>
>> 1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
>> Express.
>>
>> 2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client
>> from
>> Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.
>>
>> 3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
>> Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
>> unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows
>> Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
>> installation!
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>
>> Via the web-interface:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.asp...g=micro
>>
>> Via your newsreader:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:59 pm
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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What could be the reason, other than spyware in Windows Live Mail,
for the inclusion of the Potentially Unwanted Software paragraph on
http://help.live.com/help.aspx?mkt=en-us&project=tou ?

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

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(Msg. 51) Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:59 pm
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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You refer to a Microsoft Service Agreement for all Windows Live
applications, not just Windows Live Mail.

These applications include OneCare and OneCare Family Safety, either of
which may remove Potentially Unwanted Software whose removal "may cause
other software [not necessarily Windows Live or MS software] on your
computer to stop working, and it may cause you to breach a license to use
other software [ditto] on your computer"; (e.g., using OneCare to remove the
"sponsor software" which may be included when you install Messenger Plus,
depending on how MP is installed).

I am neither an apologist/evangelist for nor do I represent Microsoft.
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~PA Bear

Alex Plantema wrote:
> What could be the reason, other than spyware in Windows Live Mail,
> for the inclusion of the Potentially Unwanted Software paragraph on
> http://help.live.com/help.aspx?mkt=en-us&project=tou ?
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:47 am
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message news:%235ilXzGqIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> You refer to a Microsoft Service Agreement for all Windows Live
> applications, not just Windows Live Mail.
>
> These applications include OneCare and OneCare Family Safety, either of
> which may remove Potentially Unwanted Software whose removal "may cause
> other software [not necessarily Windows Live or MS software] on your
> computer to stop working, and it may cause you to breach a license to use
> other software [ditto] on your computer"; (e.g., using OneCare to remove the
> "sponsor software" which may be included when you install Messenger Plus,
> depending on how MP is installed).


> I am neither an apologist/evangelist for nor do I represent Microsoft.


I'm glad to hear that. Wink

DM

Too many open ports these days.....


> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Alex Plantema wrote:
> > What could be the reason, other than spyware in Windows Live Mail,
> > for the inclusion of the Potentially Unwanted Software paragraph on
> > http://help.live.com/help.aspx?mkt=en-us&project=tou ?
>
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:28 am
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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PA Bear [MS MVP] schreef in news:%235ilXzGqIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl

> You refer to a Microsoft Service Agreement for all Windows Live
> applications, not just Windows Live Mail.
>
> These applications include OneCare and OneCare Family Safety, either
> of which may remove Potentially Unwanted Software whose removal "may
> cause other software [not necessarily Windows Live or MS software] on
> your computer to stop working, and it may cause you to breach a
> license to use other software [ditto] on your computer"; (e.g., using
> OneCare to remove the "sponsor software" which may be included when
> you install Messenger Plus, depending on how MP is installed).

Thank you for your explanation.

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PA Bear [MS MVP]

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(Msg. 54) Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:28 am
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Alex Plantema wrote:
> PA Bear [MS MVP] schreef in news:%235ilXzGqIHA.4848@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>
>> You refer to a Microsoft Service Agreement for all Windows Live
>> applications, not just Windows Live Mail.
>>
>> These applications include OneCare and OneCare Family Safety, either
>> of which may remove Potentially Unwanted Software whose removal "may
>> cause other software [not necessarily Windows Live or MS software] on
>> your computer to stop working, and it may cause you to breach a
>> license to use other software [ditto] on your computer"; (e.g., using
>> OneCare to remove the "sponsor software" which may be included when
>> you install Messenger Plus, depending on how MP is installed).
>
> Thank you for your explanation.

YW, Alex. Thanks for posting back.
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...winston

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(Msg. 55) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:46 pm
Post subject: RE: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook E [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I'm happy to report and clear up some confusion(mine and maybe others) on
the OLC version number.
Provided and permitted for use by Scott Hammer, Msft.
<qp>
Outlook Connector 12 is the latest version.
The link below is the OLC that will be DeltaSynch compliant.
</qp>

Here's the link for Outlook Connector Version 12
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7aad7e6a-931e-438a-950c-5e9ea66322d4&displaylang=en>

Scott, thanks again...we appreciate the additional info !
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...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Windows Live Mail Technologies Support" wrote:
> Hello All,
>> Does this affect Live Hotmail and Outlook Connector - Yes. Any user
> utilizing Outlook connector 1.8 or earlier will need to upgrade to the new
> OLC. Live Mail is currently DeltaSynch ready and Live Hotmail is available
> through your browser.
>
> Scott Hammer
> Sr. Supportability Program Manager
> Windows Live Mail Technologies
> Microsoft Corporation
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PA Bear [MS MVP]

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(Msg. 56) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:51 pm
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook E [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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@Scott: Why does the Download page still say "Version: 4" ???

....winston wrote:
> Here's the link for Outlook Connector Version 12
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7aad7e6a-931e...8a-950c
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