(Msg. 33) Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:28 pm
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook E [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windows>inetexplorer>ie6>browser, others (more info?)
GEEKETTE wrote:
> Any ides where to find the info to reconfigure it? I can probably make
> the
> changes but I wouldn't know what the settings should be changed to.
> Thanks
> for all the help folks!
<paste>
> She does pay $19.95 per year - will she not be affected? Are there any
> changes she needs to make to the way her OE gets her MSN Mail? It is
> http:
> in the settings, the other two are pop3.
>
> She doesn't like the process she has to go through to keep her mail handy
> using the gmail or sbc interface, I'm not sure how she'll feel about the
> New
> Win webmail. Still, will the new Windows Live Mail install on WIN98? I
> would guess not but couldn't find any specifics on that either.
</paste>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> Mom will have to subscribe to Windows Live Hotmail Plus
>> (US$19.95/year)and
>> then reconfigure the account to be accessed via POP3 before 30 June 2008.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >>
>> GEEKETTE wrote:
>>> What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP
>>> network home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She
>>> manages groups for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email
>>> address
>>> but is able to deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear
>>> to
>>> be http, the sbc and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want
>>> to
>>> prepare her. She'd love to keep things just the way she uses it now...
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
>>>> Followup-To
>>>> set for OE General]
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
>>>> <quote>
>>>> As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you
>>>> will
>>>> no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail
>>>> folders]
>>>> via Outlook Express...
>>>> </quote>
>>>> Source:
>>>> http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry >>>>
>>>> ======================
>>>>
>>>> Please Note:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
>>>> Express.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client
>>>> from
>>>> Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.
>>>>
>>>> 3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
>>>> Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
>>>> unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger;
>>>> Windows
>>>> Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
>>>> installation!
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
>>>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>>
>>>> Via the web-interface:
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.asp...g=micro >>>>
>>>> Via your newsreader:
>>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop >>>> --
>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
(Msg. 34) Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:54 pm
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
She will need to download and start using Windows Live Mail available free of charge from here:
The service is completely free as far as I know because I am using it!!!
GEEKETTE wrote:
> What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP network
> home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She manages groups
> for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email address but is able to
> deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear to be http, the sbc
> and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to prepare her. She'd
> love to keep things just the way she uses it now...
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
> > [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups; Followup-To
> > set for OE General]
> >
> > Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
> > <quote>
> > As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will no
> > longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders] via
> > Outlook Express...
> > </quote>
> > Source:
> > http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry > >
> > ======================
> >
> > Please Note:
> >
> > 1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
> > Express.
> >
> > 2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client from
> > Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.
> >
> > 3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
> > Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
> > unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows
> > Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
> > installation!
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> > Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
> > microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
> >
> > Via the web-interface:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.asp...g=micro > >
> > Via your newsreader:
> > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop > > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> > AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net > > DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ > >
> >
(Msg. 35) Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:54 pm
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Please do some research before posting such information: Windows Live Mail
is *not* supported in Win9x.
--
~PA Bear
ANONYMOUS wrote:
> She will need to download and start using Windows Live Mail available free
> of charge from here:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=ba346005-45f6...14-a7dc >
> The service is completely free as far as I know because I am using it!!!
>
> GEEKETTE wrote:
>> What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP
>> network home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She
>> manages groups for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email
>> address
>> but is able to deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear
>> to
>> be http, the sbc and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to
>> prepare her. She'd love to keep things just the way she uses it now...
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>> [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
>>> Followup-To
>>> set for OE General]
>>>
>>> Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
>>> <quote>
>>> As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you
>>> will
>>> no longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail
>>> folders]
>>> via Outlook Express...
>>> </quote>
>>> Source:
>>> http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry >>>
>>> ======================
>>>
>>> Please Note:
>>>
>>> 1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
>>> Express.
>>>
>>> 2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client
>>> from
>>> Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.
>>>
>>> 3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
>>> Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
>>> unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger;
>>> Windows
>>> Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
>>> installation!
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
>>> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>>>
>>> Via the web-interface:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.asp...g=micro >>>
>>> Via your newsreader:
>>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop >>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
(Msg. 36) Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:54 pm
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS.TakeThisOut@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
news:481244FF.85736201@EXAMPLE.COM...
> She will need to download and start using Windows Live Mail available free
> of charge from here:
>
> The service is completely free as far as I know because I am using it!!!
>
> GEEKETTE wrote:
>
>> What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP
>> network
>> home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She manages
>> groups
>> for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email address but is able
>> to
>> deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear to be http, the
>> sbc
>> and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to prepare her.
>> She'd
>> love to keep things just the way she uses it now...
Can't.
She has Win98.
--
Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
Do not reply with email
(Msg. 37) Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:58 pm
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
SaGS wrote:
> I have to correct something said in that interview: GMAil *DOES* have IMAP
> support for quite some time now (but I am not very sure when it was
> introduced, relative to that interview's date). So when DAV support for
> Hotmail goes away, I think I'll switch completely to GMail. My Hotmail
> account will probably have the same faith as my Yahoo! account: 100% unused,
> because of not being able to access it from OE.
You can access yahoo.co.uk in Outlook Express, Outlook or any other email client
you care to use (BUT YOU CAN'T ACCESS YAHOO.COM). Also, Windows Live Mail is a
replacement for OE and one should try it before changing email accounts. It
allows access to hotmail account.
(Msg. 38) Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:58 pm
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
ANONYMOUS wrote:
>> I have to correct something said in that interview: GMAil *DOES* have
>> IMAP
>> support for quite some time now (but I am not very sure when it was
>> introduced, relative to that interview's date). So when DAV support for
>> Hotmail goes away, I think I'll switch completely to GMail. My Hotmail
>> account will probably have the same faith as my Yahoo! account: 100%
>> unused, because of not being able to access it from OE.
>
> You can access yahoo.co.uk in Outlook Express, Outlook or any other email
> client you care to use (BUT YOU CAN'T ACCESS YAHOO.COM). Also, Windows
> Live Mail is a replacement for OE and one should try it before changing
> email accounts. It allows access to hotmail account.
There are several ways to access a US- and CA-based Yahoo account via POP3.
Windows Live Mail is an alternate mail client, it is not a replacement for
OE.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
(Msg. 39) Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:01 am
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook E [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
If you find that OE defaults to one of the following(after entry of hotmail or msn or live.com address)
a. an http account
b. an http server
c. a message indicating that http is not supported
To overcome the above issue, restart the process and instead of <yourusername>@hotmail.com temporarily enter
<yourusername>@xyz.com, once the balance of the pop3 settings are configured correctly , go back and edit the email address field
in the incoming server to the correct email address, then test the account(send yourself a message)
Use of Pop3 for a Hotmail Plus account will not synchronize any additional user folders created within the Hotmail account using
the prior interface(OE or the Web[Hotmail.com])
- the Junk Mail folder will have to be monitored via the web interface(hotmail.com or mail.live.com)
- any user created folder within the prior http Hotmail account will not appear locally.
- rules created within the Hotmail web interfaced will continue to function(if moved to the web based user folders, those messages
will not appear in the OE Inbox. If the local Inbox is the preferred destination, delete the rules in the web interface and create
new ones locally in OE.
--
...winston
ms-mvp mail
"GEEKETTE" <GEEKETTE RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D4210BF6-DF2D-4CCD-B7DD-B2A0FF79B50A@microsoft.com...
> Any ides where to find the info to reconfigure it? I can probably make the
> changes but I wouldn't know what the settings should be changed to. Thanks
> for all the help folks!
(Msg. 40) Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:57 am
Post subject: Re: ANN: MS Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Expre [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders DeleteThis @mvps.org> wrote in message
news:8F09F8C1-FEEC-43AA-9E05-37AB435A9178@microsoft.com...
> Use Internet Explorer.
I see no reason that this isn't THE correct answer
> "GEEKETTE" <GEEKETTE DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1DF0120B-C93D-4877-BB31-C7258B0261E4@microsoft.com...
> > What will happen to my mom who uses OE WIN98SE with DSL off of our XP
> > network
> > home hub to get email from msn, sbc and gmail accounts? She manages
> > groups
> > for seniors and keeps it all organized by the email address but is able to
> > deal with all of it in WIN98SE OE - The MSN accts appear to be http, the
> > sbc
> > and gmail are pop/smtp - I'm not an expert, just want to prepare her.
> > She'd
> > love to keep things just the way she uses it now...
> >
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> [Crossposted to OE General, OE6, IE General, & IE6 newsgroups;
> >> Followup-To
> >> set for OE General]
> >>
> >> Microsoft Announces Changes for Accessing Hotmail with Outlook Express
> >> <quote>
> >> As of June 30, 2008, Microsoft is disabling the DAV protocol and you will
> >> no
> >> longer be able to access your Hotmail Inbox [or other Hotmail folders]
> >> via
> >> Outlook Express...
> >> </quote>
> >> Source:
> >> http://emailsupport.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!5D6F5A79A79B6708!5359.entry > >>
> >> ======================
> >>
> >> Please Note:
> >>
> >> 1. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ disable your access to Outlook
> >> Express.
> >>
> >> 2. Installing Windows Live Mail /may/ change your default Mail Client
> >> from
> >> Outlook Express to Windows Live Mail.
> >>
> >> 3. The Windows Live "all-in-one" installer /may/ install more than just
> >> Windows Live Mail. If you decide to try Windows Live Mail, UNCHECK any
> >> unwanted Windows Live applications (e.g., Windows Live Messenger; Windows
> >> Live Toolbar; Windows Live Family Safety) before proceeding with the
> >> installation!
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >> Windows Live Mail-specific newsgroup:
> >> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
> >>
> >> Via the web-interface:
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.asp...g=micro > >>
> >> Via your newsreader:
> >> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop >
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