1. Try opening IE in No Add-ons mode & see if this behavior persists. If it
doesn't, change your IE home page to "blank" then close IE7 and reopen
normally (i.e., with all Add-ons enabled) and see if the behavior returns.
2. If still no joy, reopen in No Add-ons mode, reset IE settings
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737), close IE, open normally and see if
the behavior still persists.
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
"donewell" <donewell.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> The update kb 931768 for ie7 stoped my ie from working. A popup would come
> up
> and say something about downloading navcand from ieframe.dll and then
> recomend cancling it. I had to uninstall the update.
(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:01 pm
Post subject: Re: update kb931768 for ie7 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
PA Bear wrote:
> See 'Known issues with this security update > Controls that prompt before
> they are loaded' section of http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931768 >
> 1. Try opening IE in No Add-ons mode & see if this behavior persists. If
> it
> doesn't, change your IE home page to "blank" then close IE7 and reopen
> normally (i.e., with all Add-ons enabled) and see if the behavior returns.
>
> 2. If still no joy, reopen in No Add-ons mode, reset IE settings
> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737), close IE, open normally and see
> if
> the behavior still persists.
>
> This is all related to a cross-site security vulnerability addressed by
> MS07-027/KB931768: http://secunia.com/advisories/24535/ >
> Also try this fix, courtesy of MVP Robert Aldwinckle:
>
> Start > Run > Type or copy/paste the following into the box:
>
> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
>
> [Note the spaces in the line above!]
>
> "donewell" <donewell.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> The update kb 931768 for ie7 stoped my ie from working. A popup would
>> come
>> up
>> and say something about downloading navcand from ieframe.dll and then
>> recomend cancling it. I had to uninstall the update.
(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:19 am
Post subject: Re: update kb931768 for ie7 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Follow-up: Right-click the Cancelled message > Select Properties > Write
down exactly what's shown in Address (URL) line and post it in a reply to
this thread.
Also see if disabling Phishing Filter makes any difference (Tools > Internet
Options > Advanced > Security).
--
~PA Bear
PA Bear wrote:
> UPDATE: See if this webpage of MVP Mike Burgess' addresses the problem:
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hostsfaq.htm#message >
> PA Bear wrote:
>> See 'Known issues with this security update > Controls that prompt before
>> they are loaded' section of http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931768 >>
>> 1. Try opening IE in No Add-ons mode & see if this behavior persists. If
>> it
>> doesn't, change your IE home page to "blank" then close IE7 and reopen
>> normally (i.e., with all Add-ons enabled) and see if the behavior
>> returns.
>>
>> 2. If still no joy, reopen in No Add-ons mode, reset IE settings
>> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737), close IE, open normally and see
>> if
>> the behavior still persists.
>>
>> This is all related to a cross-site security vulnerability addressed by
>> MS07-027/KB931768: http://secunia.com/advisories/24535/ >>
>> Also try this fix, courtesy of MVP Robert Aldwinckle:
>>
>> Start > Run > Type or copy/paste the following into the box:
>>
>> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
>>
>> [Note the spaces in the line above!]
>>
>> "donewell" <donewell.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> The update kb 931768 for ie7 stoped my ie from working. A popup would
>>> come
>>> up
>>> and say something about downloading navcand from ieframe.dll and then
>>> recomend cancling it. I had to uninstall the update.
(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:46 am
Post subject: Re: update kb931768 for ie7 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Thanks PA Bear, But I just gave up. If i reinstall again i can't get on the
net. I have contacted microsoft but all i get is the run around, seems they
have no idea's. So i'll just run with out their update. It is funny that i
have 3 computers , 2 on xp pro and 1 on xp home, only one of the xp pro's is
doing this, the others updated and work fine.
"PA Bear" wrote:
> Follow-up: Right-click the Cancelled message > Select Properties > Write
> down exactly what's shown in Address (URL) line and post it in a reply to
> this thread.
>
> Also see if disabling Phishing Filter makes any difference (Tools > Internet
> Options > Advanced > Security).
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> PA Bear wrote:
> > UPDATE: See if this webpage of MVP Mike Burgess' addresses the problem:
> > http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hostsfaq.htm#message > >
> > PA Bear wrote:
> >> See 'Known issues with this security update > Controls that prompt before
> >> they are loaded' section of http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931768 > >>
> >> 1. Try opening IE in No Add-ons mode & see if this behavior persists. If
> >> it
> >> doesn't, change your IE home page to "blank" then close IE7 and reopen
> >> normally (i.e., with all Add-ons enabled) and see if the behavior
> >> returns.
> >>
> >> 2. If still no joy, reopen in No Add-ons mode, reset IE settings
> >> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737), close IE, open normally and see
> >> if
> >> the behavior still persists.
> >>
> >> This is all related to a cross-site security vulnerability addressed by
> >> MS07-027/KB931768: http://secunia.com/advisories/24535/ > >>
> >> Also try this fix, courtesy of MVP Robert Aldwinckle:
> >>
> >> Start > Run > Type or copy/paste the following into the box:
> >>
> >> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
> >>
> >> [Note the spaces in the line above!]
> >>
> >> "donewell" <donewell RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>> The update kb 931768 for ie7 stoped my ie from working. A popup would
> >>> come
> >>> up
> >>> and say something about downloading navcand from ieframe.dll and then
> >>> recomend cancling it. I had to uninstall the update.
>
>
(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:51 am
Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]
I also am getting this same problem on vista and xp machines. Out of 80 computers we are only having this issue on about 10 of them. Removing the KB931768 fixes the problem. You cannot start IE in no addons mode. None of the other fixes seem to work (MVP Robert Aldwinckle fix). If you are administrator ie works fine. The users are limited access users....
(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:35 pm
Post subject: Re: update kb931768 for ie7 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsxp>general (more info?)
Let me point out that the vast majority of other IE7 users have installed
MS07-027/KB931768 and are not experiencing this problem (including myself,
on several machines). 24 hours ago, this did have all the signs of a
growing, widespread problem. We realize now that there's really only small
number of you experiencing this problem (though we do share your pain).
What we need to discover is what each affected machine has in common (e.g.,
another anti-phishing/-scam component, anti-virus, anti-spyware application,
third-party firewall, custom hosts file, custom site-blocking list).
Bashing Microsoft isn't going to help. Working together will. I suggest
you start watching and participating in threads similar to this one seen in
Windows Update newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
donewell wrote:
> Thanks PA Bear, But I just gave up. If i reinstall again i can't get on
> the
> net. I have contacted microsoft but all i get is the run around, seems
> they
> have no idea's. So i'll just run with out their update. It is funny that i
> have 3 computers , 2 on xp pro and 1 on xp home, only one of the xp pro's
> is
> doing this, the others updated and work fine.
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> Follow-up: Right-click the Cancelled message > Select Properties > Write
>> down exactly what's shown in Address (URL) line and post it in a reply to
>> this thread.
>>
>> Also see if disabling Phishing Filter makes any difference (Tools >
>> Internet Options > Advanced > Security).
>> --
>> ~PA Bear
>>
>> PA Bear wrote:
>>> UPDATE: See if this webpage of MVP Mike Burgess' addresses the problem:
>>> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hostsfaq.htm#message >>>
>>> PA Bear wrote:
>>>> See 'Known issues with this security update > Controls that prompt
>>>> before
>>>> they are loaded' section of http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931768 >>>>
>>>> 1. Try opening IE in No Add-ons mode & see if this behavior persists.
>>>> If
>>>> it
>>>> doesn't, change your IE home page to "blank" then close IE7 and reopen
>>>> normally (i.e., with all Add-ons enabled) and see if the behavior
>>>> returns.
>>>>
>>>> 2. If still no joy, reopen in No Add-ons mode, reset IE settings
>>>> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737), close IE, open normally and
>>>> see
>>>> if
>>>> the behavior still persists.
>>>>
>>>> This is all related to a cross-site security vulnerability addressed by
>>>> MS07-027/KB931768: http://secunia.com/advisories/24535/ >>>>
>>>> Also try this fix, courtesy of MVP Robert Aldwinckle:
>>>>
>>>> Start > Run > Type or copy/paste the following into the box:
>>>>
>>>> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
>>>>
>>>> [Note the spaces in the line above!]
>>>>
>>>> "donewell" <donewell.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> The update kb 931768 for ie7 stoped my ie from working. A popup would
>>>>> come
>>>>> up
>>>>> and say something about downloading navcand from ieframe.dll and then
>>>>> recomend cancling it. I had to uninstall the update.
(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:35 pm
Post subject: Re: update kb931768 for ie7 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
Thanks PA Bear, I whent to experts exchange and they suggested uninstalling
ie7 and going back to 6 then updating. I went back to 6 and went it started
microsoft installed the same patch kb931768 for 6 that gave me the trouble in
7. everything worked in 6 after the install so i reinstalled 7 and bingo it
works. I hope this will help someone else that has the same problem
"PA Bear" wrote:
> Let me point out that the vast majority of other IE7 users have installed
> MS07-027/KB931768 and are not experiencing this problem (including myself,
> on several machines). 24 hours ago, this did have all the signs of a
> growing, widespread problem. We realize now that there's really only small
> number of you experiencing this problem (though we do share your pain).
>
> What we need to discover is what each affected machine has in common (e.g.,
> another anti-phishing/-scam component, anti-virus, anti-spyware application,
> third-party firewall, custom hosts file, custom site-blocking list).
>
> Bashing Microsoft isn't going to help. Working together will. I suggest
> you start watching and participating in threads similar to this one seen in
> Windows Update newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>
> donewell wrote:
> > Thanks PA Bear, But I just gave up. If i reinstall again i can't get on
> > the
> > net. I have contacted microsoft but all i get is the run around, seems
> > they
> > have no idea's. So i'll just run with out their update. It is funny that i
> > have 3 computers , 2 on xp pro and 1 on xp home, only one of the xp pro's
> > is
> > doing this, the others updated and work fine.
> >
> > "PA Bear" wrote:
> >
> >> Follow-up: Right-click the Cancelled message > Select Properties > Write
> >> down exactly what's shown in Address (URL) line and post it in a reply to
> >> this thread.
> >>
> >> Also see if disabling Phishing Filter makes any difference (Tools >
> >> Internet Options > Advanced > Security).
> >> --
> >> ~PA Bear
> >>
> >> PA Bear wrote:
> >>> UPDATE: See if this webpage of MVP Mike Burgess' addresses the problem:
> >>> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hostsfaq.htm#message > >>>
> >>> PA Bear wrote:
> >>>> See 'Known issues with this security update > Controls that prompt
> >>>> before
> >>>> they are loaded' section of http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931768 > >>>>
> >>>> 1. Try opening IE in No Add-ons mode & see if this behavior persists.
> >>>> If
> >>>> it
> >>>> doesn't, change your IE home page to "blank" then close IE7 and reopen
> >>>> normally (i.e., with all Add-ons enabled) and see if the behavior
> >>>> returns.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. If still no joy, reopen in No Add-ons mode, reset IE settings
> >>>> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737), close IE, open normally and
> >>>> see
> >>>> if
> >>>> the behavior still persists.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is all related to a cross-site security vulnerability addressed by
> >>>> MS07-027/KB931768: http://secunia.com/advisories/24535/ > >>>>
> >>>> Also try this fix, courtesy of MVP Robert Aldwinckle:
> >>>>
> >>>> Start > Run > Type or copy/paste the following into the box:
> >>>>
> >>>> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
> >>>>
> >>>> [Note the spaces in the line above!]
> >>>>
> >>>> "donewell" <donewell DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> The update kb 931768 for ie7 stoped my ie from working. A popup would
> >>>>> come
> >>>>> up
> >>>>> and say something about downloading navcand from ieframe.dll and then
> >>>>> recomend cancling it. I had to uninstall the update.
>
>
(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:22 pm
Post subject: Re: update kb931768 for ie7 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"PA Bear" <PABearMVP RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%235y88tykHHA.1776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
[snip]
> Bashing Microsoft isn't going to help. Working together will. I
> suggest you start watching and participating in threads similar to
> this one seen in Windows Update newsgroup:
> microsoft.public.windowsupdate
Okay I have been quiet for the most part about Windows Updates. But on
multiple computers including XP, 2000, and 98SE machines. And it seems
Explorer Shell will crash and restart with about 1/3 of the updates. PIA
as some system tray icons won't show anymore until you logoff or reboot.
Sure the next monthly update will generally correct the issue. And I
finally had it! I switched to Aston Shell and years of this nonsense on
many of my computers are gone for good!
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