(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:40 am
Post subject: up to which speed can I use IDE! Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsxp>hardware (more info?)
As I can see, most of the new PC have sata drives. Clearly this is because
the technical problems in designing connections and boards with paralell
systems for high speeds.
I however will even on a potential new computer need to do DOS operations,
there will have to be a native dos partition operating serial 232 port etc.
However as far as I know only most recent OS will support sata.
Also some of my older Linux systems needed for work will not support sata.
IDE is a must for me therefore still.
Therefore a question:
up to which proc and bus speed are mainboards with IDE avaiable or better
say up to which speed will this also work?
(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:22 am
Post subject: Re: up to which speed can I use IDE! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Otto Sykora" <OttoSykora.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B7CE8F86-B114-4279-BC7F-759D056EAA39@microsoft.com...
> As I can see, most of the new PC have sata drives. Clearly this is because
> the technical problems in designing connections and boards with paralell
> systems for high speeds.
>
> I however will even on a potential new computer need to do DOS operations,
> there will have to be a native dos partition operating serial 232 port
> etc.
> However as far as I know only most recent OS will support sata.
> Also some of my older Linux systems needed for work will not support sata.
> IDE is a must for me therefore still.
>
> Therefore a question:
> up to which proc and bus speed are mainboards with IDE avaiable or better
> say up to which speed will this also work?
>
>
As far as I know, there is no processor speed that "breaks" real mode
ms-dos. There are limitations for older windows versions. There is the
rollover problem with last version of microsoft's fdisk past 128GB partition
sizes formatted. There is a data storage problem when accessed and written
by some older versions of windows and ms-dos past 128GB stored on the same
physical hard drive, not related to fdisk but the OS.
(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:04 am
Post subject: Re: up to which speed can I use IDE! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
well yes, the speed itself is not the problem probably, but rather the
question of supportiung still IDE drive. I see that most recent systems sold
will offer only SATA drives?
Or is there anyway allways an IDE connection on such borad?
"Dave" wrote:
> "Otto Sykora" <OttoSykora DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B7CE8F86-B114-4279-BC7F-759D056EAA39@microsoft.com...
> > As I can see, most of the new PC have sata drives. Clearly this is because
> > the technical problems in designing connections and boards with paralell
> > systems for high speeds.
> >
> > I however will even on a potential new computer need to do DOS operations,
> > there will have to be a native dos partition operating serial 232 port
> > etc.
> > However as far as I know only most recent OS will support sata.
> > Also some of my older Linux systems needed for work will not support sata.
> > IDE is a must for me therefore still.
> >
> > Therefore a question:
> > up to which proc and bus speed are mainboards with IDE avaiable or better
> > say up to which speed will this also work?
> >
> >
>
> As far as I know, there is no processor speed that "breaks" real mode
> ms-dos. There are limitations for older windows versions. There is the
> rollover problem with last version of microsoft's fdisk past 128GB partition
> sizes formatted. There is a data storage problem when accessed and written
> by some older versions of windows and ms-dos past 128GB stored on the same
> physical hard drive, not related to fdisk but the OS.
>
> You can do your own mainboard shopping.
>
> None of which is related to XP hardware.
> --
> Dave
>
> Apathy and denial are close cousins
>
>
>
(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:26 pm
Post subject: Re: up to which speed can I use IDE! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
<OttoSykora.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> well yes, the speed itself is not the problem probably, but rather the
> question of supportiung still IDE drive. I see that most recent systems
> sold
> will offer only SATA drives?
> Or is there anyway allways an IDE connection on such borad?
>
>
>
> "Dave" wrote:
>
>> "Otto Sykora"
As I previously stated, you can do your own motherboard shopping.
--
Dave
(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:07 pm
Post subject: Re: up to which speed can I use IDE! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
> <OttoSykora RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:03123CB1-0DD2-480A-8A4C-C6FE09833159@microsoft.com...
>>
>> well yes, the speed itself is not the problem probably, but rather the
>> question of supportiung still IDE drive. I see that most recent systems
>> sold will offer only SATA drives?
>> Or is there anyway allways an IDE connection on such borad?
Otto:
Virtually every motherboard currently being produced is equipped with at
least one IDE channel; in many cases two IDE channels although it seems more
& more motherboard manufacturers are going to one IDE channel. I can't
imagine that situation will change soon in that accommodation still has to
be made for IDE/ATAPI optical drives - since only a tiny minority of those
devices are being produced with a SATA interface.
Anyway if worse comes to worse you can always use a PCI controller card
designed for one or more PATA HDDs.
Anna
(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:37 am
Post subject: Re: up to which speed can I use IDE! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
"Anna" wrote:
>
> > <OttoSykora.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:03123CB1-0DD2-480A-8A4C-C6FE09833159@microsoft.com...
> >>
> >> well yes, the speed itself is not the problem probably, but rather the
> >> question of supportiung still IDE drive. I see that most recent systems
> >> sold will offer only SATA drives?
> >> Or is there anyway allways an IDE connection on such borad?
>
>
> Otto:
> Virtually every motherboard currently being produced is equipped with at
> least one IDE channel; in many cases two IDE channels although it seems more
> & more motherboard manufacturers are going to one IDE channel. I can't
> imagine that situation will change soon in that accommodation still has to
> be made for IDE/ATAPI optical drives - since only a tiny minority of those
> devices are being produced with a SATA interface.
>
> Anyway if worse comes to worse you can always use a PCI controller card
> designed for one or more PATA HDDs.
> Anna
>
>
>
OK this is what I wanted to know. Thanks.
So no problem even with the present funcy computers I will be able somehow
to run an IDE drive.
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