sp3 will not re boot with a firewire external hard drive a..

This is a sp3 issue it happened imediately after the sp3 install.

"paul" wrote:

> This is a sp3 issue it happened imediately after the sp3 install.

My system has never booted from any except the original drive installed.

"paul" <paul.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:077125C0-A20F-42B6-9DEF-970F760D05F8@microsoft.com...
> This is a sp3 issue it happened imediately after the sp3 install.

It is an XP issue, but it is possible that somehow SP3 created the
conditions on your PC that cause this to happen. Oddly, someone I know who
has installed SP3 recently found to his surprise, that the same fault on his
PC has been cured by the installation of SP3.

The mystery remains.

Hi. This problem occurs because windows exposes a BIOS bug.

Some computer BIOS versions have the ability to boot from
external devices. What this means is you have the capability to
boot from an external USB or an external firewire disk-device
that is running at boot.

How this works is the BIOS assigns the external disk-device a
lower Drive Letter than the partitions on the internal disk. As a
result, when starting with the external disk or USB connected,
control is passed to the Boot Sector on the external device,
rather than the Boot Sector on the internal hard disk.

If the Boot Sector on the external device is not active (and it
should NOT be active for a non-OS partition), then the
machine will stall at that point because it cannot continue the
boot process unless an active partition is present.


There are three solutions to this problem:

1. Check to see if a BIOS update is available for your system.
Many times, the above is an oversight on the part of the
BIOS manufacturer. The BIOS logic should recognize the
external device has no boot loader available and set the
system so the internal device with the active boot partition
is used for the boot process.

2. Check to ensure your CMOS settings are correct for the
BIOS on your computer. Some BIOS versions allow you
to enable/disable the external USB/FW device boot feature
or modify the detection parameters for this process.

3. Ensure the firmware in your external USB or Firewire
device is up-to-date. The BIOS detection process for
boot/non-boot capability depends on a valid handshake
between the motherboard BIOS and the USB/FW
firmware. Bugs here can also be part of the problem.


Note: If none of the above solutions work, then your
computer motherboard manufacturer or your
USB/FW device manufacturer has decided
to ignore this problem. At that point, you have
to decide whether you are going to live with the
problem - or you are going to nuke the company
headquarters from orbit as the only valid response
to pissing you off. <grin>


Best I can do for now. <tm>


Bill



paul wrote:
> Please help.
>
> I have 2 Identical computers. One which had the WD Firewire my book
> attached and turned on all the time sp3 was installed has no problems
> re booting. The other which had the WD drive off during the sp3
> installation will not reboot if it is later on at the time of the
> boot. Once xp up and running WD drive can be attached as normal but
> must be off for boot ups. Uninstalling and re installing sp3 with it
> on doesn't help still won't re boot with it on.

Bill Drake wrote:
> Hi. This problem occurs because windows exposes a BIOS bug.
>
> Some computer BIOS versions have the ability to boot from
> external devices. What this means is you have the capability to
> boot from an external USB or an external firewire disk-device
> that is running at boot.
>
> How this works is the BIOS assigns the external disk-device a
> lower Drive Letter than the partitions on the internal disk. As a
> result, when starting with the external disk or USB connected,
> control is passed to the Boot Sector on the external device,
> rather than the Boot Sector on the internal hard disk.
>
> If the Boot Sector on the external device is not active (and it
> should NOT be active for a non-OS partition), then the
> machine will stall at that point because it cannot continue the
> boot process unless an active partition is present.
>
>
> There are three solutions to this problem:
>
> 1. Check to see if a BIOS update is available for your system.
> Many times, the above is an oversight on the part of the
> BIOS manufacturer. The BIOS logic should recognize the
> external device has no boot loader available and set the
> system so the internal device with the active boot partition
> is used for the boot process.
>
> 2. Check to ensure your CMOS settings are correct for the
> BIOS on your computer. Some BIOS versions allow you
> to enable/disable the external USB/FW device boot feature
> or modify the detection parameters for this process.
>
> 3. Ensure the firmware in your external USB or Firewire
> device is up-to-date. The BIOS detection process for
> boot/non-boot capability depends on a valid handshake
> between the motherboard BIOS and the USB/FW
> firmware. Bugs here can also be part of the problem.
>
>
> Note: If none of the above solutions work, then your
> computer motherboard manufacturer or your
> USB/FW device manufacturer has decided
> to ignore this problem. At that point, you have
> to decide whether you are going to live with the
> problem - or you are going to nuke the company
> headquarters from orbit as the only valid response
> to pissing you off. <grin>
>
>
> Best I can do for now. <tm>
>
>
> Bill
>
I have a similar problem in that my HP computer will hang during BiOS
loading if I have my camera SD card inserted. I can access the SD card
if I insert it after booting. Since I only view the card occasionally I
can easily live with this condition. I suppose I could look for a BiOS
update from HP, but it's just not worth the bother and/or risk.

Bill

I am sure it is not the bios, all was well before sp3. Both my computers are
identical with identical bios settings. One which had the WD Firewire my book
attached and turned on all the time sp3 was installed has no problems re
booting. The other which had the WD drive off during the sp3 installation
will not reboot
if it is later on at the time of the boot. Once xp up and running WD drive
can be attached as normal but must be off for boot ups. Uninstalling and re
installing sp3 with it on doesn't help still won't re boot with it on.