A rather nasty MSVDM bug

"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> bob felice wrote:
> > if you have virtual desktop manager power toy installed, and are
> > running Excel 2007 on one of the desktops, and switch to an
> > alternate desktop, when you return to your original desktop, the
> > Ribbon completely disappears from Excel! The spreadsheets are
> > there, but the entire Ribbon has vanished
> >
> > This does not happen with Word 2007, however.
> >
> > I've had some other strage behavor with this power toy (for example,
> > Microsoft Money is active on all descktops, as well as various
> > FrameMaker dialogs), but this is the 1st time I've seen a virtual
> > desktop bug as nasty as this one!
>
> Can the ribbon be brought back without closing Excel? (Is it merely
> minimized?)
>
> 1. Click Customize Quick Access Toolbar (Small downward pointing arrow to
> the right of the Microsoft Office Button - top left corner.)
> 2. In the list, click Minimize the Ribbon.
>
> You might try 'cycling it' (check it, uncheck it, check it)...
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

It is not a question of the ribbon being minimized. Once I switch back to
the virtual desktop with Excel, there are no toolbars. There is nothing to
the right of the Microsoft Office button. There is NO Microsoft Office
Button! There are no menus. There is nothing but 3 buttons on the left of the
window that allow me to minimize, restore, and close the window.


-- bob

What do you expect from a toy?
Get a good stuff instead:
http://www.download.com/sort/3150-2346_4-0-1-3.html

Here is the best work-around I've found for this bug. It reloads the toolbar
with a hotkey registered with a macro. I can't take credit, it was
originally posted by a guest at pcreview.co.uk:

You need to re-read your
toolbar file. Since you can't access the file menu to do this, create a
macro to do it with a hot-key. My toolbar file is:
C:\Documents and Settings\SarahK\Application Data\Microsoft\Excel\Excel11.xlb

Detailed instructions:
Tools->Macro->Record New Macro
In the dialog box:
under "store macro in" choose "Personal Macro Workbook"
under "Short-cut Key" enter a key of your choosing (say "m" for Menus)
Click "OK"
Record the macro:
File->Open
in the open dialog for "Files of type:" choose "Toolbars (*.xlb)"
open your toolbars file
Click the "Stop Recording" button on the Macro Recorder
When you exit Excel, be sure to save your Personal Macro workbook (hidden)
when asked

Now whenever you lose your toolbars and menu bar, simply hit your hotkey
(say Ctrl-M)



"bob felice" wrote:

> if you have virtual desktop manager power toy installed, and are running
> Excel 2007 on one of the desktops, and switch to an alternate desktop, when
> you return to your original desktop, the Ribbon completely disappears from
> Excel! The spreadsheets are there, but the entire Ribbon has vanished
>
> This does not happen with Word 2007, however.
>
> I've had some other strage behavor with this power toy (for example,
> Microsoft Money is active on all descktops, as well as various FrameMaker
> dialogs), but this is the 1st time I've seen a virtual desktop bug as nasty
> as this one!
>
> -- bob

Thanks for the Hotkey work-around. This is a good temporary fix. Not sure I
can convince my colleagues this is ideal though. Is it out of the question
for Microsoft to fix their product, after all it's embarrassing that their
power tool doesn't work properly with their own software!

I've noticed this menu problem also occurs in Microsoft Access.

Brer Bunny

"knavillus" wrote:

> Here is the best work-around I've found for this bug. It reloads the toolbar
> with a hotkey registered with a macro. I can't take credit, it was
> originally posted by a guest at pcreview.co.uk:
>
> You need to re-read your
> toolbar file. Since you can't access the file menu to do this, create a
> macro to do it with a hot-key. My toolbar file is:
> C:\Documents and Settings\SarahK\Application Data\Microsoft\Excel\Excel11.xlb
>
> Detailed instructions:
> Tools->Macro->Record New Macro
> In the dialog box:
> under "store macro in" choose "Personal Macro Workbook"
> under "Short-cut Key" enter a key of your choosing (say "m" for Menus)
> Click "OK"
> Record the macro:
> File->Open
> in the open dialog for "Files of type:" choose "Toolbars (*.xlb)"
> open your toolbars file
> Click the "Stop Recording" button on the Macro Recorder
> When you exit Excel, be sure to save your Personal Macro workbook (hidden)
> when asked
>
> Now whenever you lose your toolbars and menu bar, simply hit your hotkey
> (say Ctrl-M)
>
>
>
> "bob felice" wrote:
>
> > if you have virtual desktop manager power toy installed, and are running
> > Excel 2007 on one of the desktops, and switch to an alternate desktop, when
> > you return to your original desktop, the Ribbon completely disappears from
> > Excel! The spreadsheets are there, but the entire Ribbon has vanished
> >
> > This does not happen with Word 2007, however.
> >
> > I've had some other strage behavor with this power toy (for example,
> > Microsoft Money is active on all descktops, as well as various FrameMaker
> > dialogs), but this is the 1st time I've seen a virtual desktop bug as nasty
> > as this one!
> >
> > -- bob

there is a way without using a macro ... have a look @
http://detect-it.blogspot.com/2008/08/bothered-by-microsoft-part-2-msv...and.htm

.... did anyone experience the bug, that ie windows close sometimes while you
are running another instance of ie in another desktop?

.... i also had problems using word on two virtual desktops

think, i will change to another virtual desktop solutions

have fun

"Brer Bunny" wrote:

> Thanks for the Hotkey work-around. This is a good temporary fix. Not sure I
> can convince my colleagues this is ideal though. Is it out of the question
> for Microsoft to fix their product, after all it's embarrassing that their
> power tool doesn't work properly with their own software!
>
> I've noticed this menu problem also occurs in Microsoft Access.
>
> Brer Bunny
>
> "knavillus" wrote:
>
> > Here is the best work-around I've found for this bug. It reloads the toolbar
> > with a hotkey registered with a macro. I can't take credit, it was
> > originally posted by a guest at pcreview.co.uk:
> >
> > You need to re-read your
> > toolbar file. Since you can't access the file menu to do this, create a
> > macro to do it with a hot-key. My toolbar file is:
> > C:\Documents and Settings\SarahK\Application Data\Microsoft\Excel\Excel11.xlb
> >
> > Detailed instructions:
> > Tools->Macro->Record New Macro
> > In the dialog box:
> > under "store macro in" choose "Personal Macro Workbook"
> > under "Short-cut Key" enter a key of your choosing (say "m" for Menus)
> > Click "OK"
> > Record the macro:
> > File->Open
> > in the open dialog for "Files of type:" choose "Toolbars (*.xlb)"
> > open your toolbars file
> > Click the "Stop Recording" button on the Macro Recorder
> > When you exit Excel, be sure to save your Personal Macro workbook (hidden)
> > when asked
> >
> > Now whenever you lose your toolbars and menu bar, simply hit your hotkey
> > (say Ctrl-M)
> >
> >
> >
> > "bob felice" wrote:
> >
> > > if you have virtual desktop manager power toy installed, and are running
> > > Excel 2007 on one of the desktops, and switch to an alternate desktop, when
> > > you return to your original desktop, the Ribbon completely disappears from
> > > Excel! The spreadsheets are there, but the entire Ribbon has vanished
> > >
> > > This does not happen with Word 2007, however.
> > >
> > > I've had some other strage behavor with this power toy (for example,
> > > Microsoft Money is active on all descktops, as well as various FrameMaker
> > > dialogs), but this is the 1st time I've seen a virtual desktop bug as nasty
> > > as this one!
> > >
> > > -- bob

Thanks Kajdo,

this worked for me.. hope that someone at Microsoft actually spends some
time to fix it properly, fingers crossed!

Brer Bunny

"kajdo" wrote:

> there is a way without using a macro ... have a look @
> http://detect-it.blogspot.com/2008/08/bothered-by-microsoft-part-2-msv...and.htm
>
> ... did anyone experience the bug, that ie windows close sometimes while you
> are running another instance of ie in another desktop?
>
> ... i also had problems using word on two virtual desktops
>
> think, i will change to another virtual desktop solutions
>
> have fun
>
> "Brer Bunny" wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the Hotkey work-around. This is a good temporary fix. Not sure I
> > can convince my colleagues this is ideal though. Is it out of the question
> > for Microsoft to fix their product, after all it's embarrassing that their
> > power tool doesn't work properly with their own software!
> >
> > I've noticed this menu problem also occurs in Microsoft Access.
> >
> > Brer Bunny
> >
> > "knavillus" wrote:
> >
> > > Here is the best work-around I've found for this bug. It reloads the toolbar
> > > with a hotkey registered with a macro. I can't take credit, it was
> > > originally posted by a guest at pcreview.co.uk:
> > >
> > > You need to re-read your
> > > toolbar file. Since you can't access the file menu to do this, create a
> > > macro to do it with a hot-key. My toolbar file is:
> > > C:\Documents and Settings\SarahK\Application Data\Microsoft\Excel\Excel11.xlb
> > >
> > > Detailed instructions:
> > > Tools->Macro->Record New Macro
> > > In the dialog box:
> > > under "store macro in" choose "Personal Macro Workbook"
> > > under "Short-cut Key" enter a key of your choosing (say "m" for Menus)
> > > Click "OK"
> > > Record the macro:
> > > File->Open
> > > in the open dialog for "Files of type:" choose "Toolbars (*.xlb)"
> > > open your toolbars file
> > > Click the "Stop Recording" button on the Macro Recorder
> > > When you exit Excel, be sure to save your Personal Macro workbook (hidden)
> > > when asked
> > >
> > > Now whenever you lose your toolbars and menu bar, simply hit your hotkey
> > > (say Ctrl-M)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "bob felice" wrote:
> > >
> > > > if you have virtual desktop manager power toy installed, and are running
> > > > Excel 2007 on one of the desktops, and switch to an alternate desktop, when
> > > > you return to your original desktop, the Ribbon completely disappears from
> > > > Excel! The spreadsheets are there, but the entire Ribbon has vanished
> > > >
> > > > This does not happen with Word 2007, however.
> > > >
> > > > I've had some other strage behavor with this power toy (for example,
> > > > Microsoft Money is active on all descktops, as well as various FrameMaker
> > > > dialogs), but this is the 1st time I've seen a virtual desktop bug as nasty
> > > > as this one!
> > > >
> > > > -- bob